Postgres is the biggest choke point, these sql calculations take a lot of time! We would appreciate it if you sent us your logs after the import is complete, lets take a look at whats going on just to be safe. Follow these instructions - be sure to send the logs before you restart PokerTracker, once PokerTracker is restarted the old logs will be erased, so it is important to follow the instructions implicitly. Thnx!

- TT

Please make some video lessons on how to create custom filters and custom reports !
PT$ is a very powerful tool but only if you include these but how to include these two things if we don't have any clue about them ?
We aren't postgresql programmers to know all of these so help us, please !

Thank you !

There is already a video tutorial for the My Reports tab - click the grey monitor icon in the sidebar on the left.
More videos and text tutorials are being added all the time but in the meantime if you have any specific questions please feel free to ask.
(If you have any complex questions please start a new thread in the forum on the PokerTracker website where we'll be able to go into more detail than we can in this thread.)

--WhiteRider

The Custom Report video (which we call "My Reports") is already available.

As for "custom filters", what in particular were you looking for? We do not intend to make a video specifically for our Global Filters functionality because we use the Filter system in so many videos already that we felt it would be redundant.

Other videos are being added in preparation for commercial release of PT4. The addition of videos is one of our final steps before we end the beta.

- TT

I am sure this has been asked before, so I apologize for repeating the question, but I wasn't able to find what I need with a search.

The site I play one has a VIP system that rewards you with bonuses from time to time, as well as some rake races etc. Is there a way to enter these bonuses into PT4 manually when they are received so that they show up in my graph. Similar to what HEM allows?

I'm willing to create the following report:
- the main window will be split by a horizontal line (red one in the image) into two areas: above area and below area;
- in the above area it should be only Preflop Stack Size, total number of hands played with each stack size and totally amount won at that stack size;
That's all and I should mention also that Proflop stack size should be grouped only once:
e.g. stack less than 2 big blinds stack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blinds

It must be ONLY ONCE: stack less than 2 big blinds
The same for other stack sizes.

In the below area, when I click on each stack size listed in the above area, here it should be listed ONLY FinalHand, number of hands having that final hand and total amount won with that kind of final hand.
Final hand also should not be repeating like One PairOne PairOne Pair
just one: One Pair. The same for other stats.
AND, if I want to see exactly what hands I played with One Pair final hand then I should just double click on that One Pair grouped hands.

How to build such a report ?

Thank you !

PS: Please make a video/tutorial about so I can convince myself I am able to use PT4.
PS: I know it is almost similar to report named Final hand at Showdown form results tab but I want to see how to do it from zero, of course in the way I want, with preflop stack size and so on.

I'm really enjoying PT4, congratulations!
I'd like some info on a couple of stats which I can't understand:

AFq (split by street); their value seems quite different to me compared to what I read on some books and hands analysis, particularly they're much higher than I'd expect: are they calculated in a different way (compared to HM or whatever?)

PF 2BET: a raise after a limp or a openraise are both considered as PF 2BET, aren't they?

4BET range, 5BET range: I'm finding hard to compare 4BET and 5BET; is there a way to create these custom stats? 4BETrange after PF 2BET (i.e., I open, get 3betted and 4bet) and 5BETrange after 3BET (i.e., oppo open, I 3bet, oppo 4bets, I 5bet)? 4bet+range is already available but it counts also cold 4bet.

CALL RIVER, BET RIVER; these values are a lot higher compared to PT3: are they calculated in a different way?

POSITIONS: i play 6max, in the positional popups are related to 6max positions? I mean, EP is just UTG or also UTG+MP?


There was something else but now I can't remember
I'm bothering you later!

thanks a lot!
Andy

We do not yet have a way to add bonuses, or other bankroll management functionality, although this is something we'd like to add eventually. I don't have a timescale for this though.

You can do this as a workaround by creating a fake hand history (probably for a stake you don't play, or under a different screenname that you will alias to your main name) and setting it up so that you win the amount you want to add.

--WhiteRider

It isn't possible to make that kind of 2 part report in "My Reports", but that is an interesting idea for a report - I'll pass on your request to the development team.

--WhiteRider

Are you sure you're reading about AFq (aggression frequency)?
I suspect you may be reading about AF (aggression factor), which is similar but the numbers are on a different scale for that.
AF is the older stat, which is one of the main stats introduced in PT2 and which is often quoted.
AFq is an updated version of this kind of stat which also includes folds and in many situations can give you better information.
For detailed information on the calculations used in these or other stats choose Configure > Statistics from the PT4 menu.
Select your stat to see the detailed description and formula used.

Yes.

Please start a new thread in the custom stats section of the forum on the PokerTracker website and post your request and we'll be able to help you build exactly what you want.

I wouldn't expect there to be any difference between the "Bet River" stats in PT3 and PT4, but there isn't a single "Call River" stat in PT4 so it may be that you're comparing different stats there.
As mentioned above you can check the exact definition of the stats you're looking at, and if you think you've found an error please post in the forums on the PokerTracker website where we'll be able to follow up in much more detail than we can here.

For 6 max there are 6 separate positions: BB, SB, button, cutoff, MP and EP.
These are consistent for up to 6 players. (If there are 5 players then you'll have MP but not EP, and if there are 4 you won't have either EP or MP.)
Only for tables with more than 6 players are EP and/or MP positions combined.

--WhiteRider

1. Ok, but remember that Holdem Manager has already this option, you can build any kind of report you want with it. You should take this in mind if you want to be number ONE against them.

2. Second, how could I group hands like I said above:
That's all and I should mention also that Proflop stack size should be grouped only once:
e.g. stack less than 2 big blinds stack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blindsstack less than 2 big blinds

It must be ONLY ONCE: stack less than 2 big blinds
The same for other stack sizes.
?

Thank you !

You should give the option to view the "filtered" hands in the way I said because that users expect to see when they create a report.
They expect to see exactly what hands meet those criteria built in their own custom report. For this you should give the option to build reports with two areas: above area - for main filters and below area - for hands you expect to see when clicked one the above area main filters.
That's the MAIN goal users expect when they wanna create a report: to see more exactly which hands meets their wanted criteria.
In Holdem Manager you have this option.

You should make PT4 more and easy to customize if you wanna win the battle with HEM2 !

I want you to add the option to be able to import notes you made from different sites like PokerStars, 888Poker, PartyPoker and so on.

You should take ideas from HEM1 which is very customizable.

That won't work for me. I don't want the bonuses to be included in winrate. I'd prefer it to be an entirely different line on the graph.

The feature set for PT4 is complete, we do not intend to add this functionality because it would require a total redesign of PT4. This is something we will consider for the future however, in fact we already noted it on our list for future consideration.

In the PokerTracker 4 ecosystem you can save a filter with the report, which shows only the precise hands you wish to filter for every time you review the same report. You can also add add a global filter on top of the saved filter in the report - this makes PT4 the most powerful custom report system on the market today. Could it be improved? Of course... but we could also develop PT4 for the next 25 years and still find room for improvement - eventually we need to stop the beta program and start selling PT4 - we are winding down the beta right now.

PokerTracker 4 is VERY easy to customize. Only PokerTracker 4 has custom stats, is cross platform, does not require you to buy third party apps to add on features.... and has given you the use of our software for free for the past 7 months, it is hard to deny that we have delivered a solution that is pretty flexible! With that said, the battle with HEM is in your mind, not ours. If we never converted an HEM user to PT4 then we would remain the #1 selling poker software application with 11 years under our belt. But we are honored by the massive influx of HEM users converting to PT4, that means we must have done something right to win these players over, but I can assure you there is no war. We did not develop PT4 to go to battle with HEM, your choice of tracking software is your own personal choice, it is not a community decision.


We do not intend to include this functionality in PT4. This is however a job that third party developers who build upon the PT4 ecosystem may be interested in.

We pride ourselves in not taking ideas from HEM... they have done some good things, we admit that, but so have we - mostly by using our own innovation. We prefer it this way, I am pretty sure that if you spent the last three years developing a really innovative application using new UI concepts and ideals like we did with PT4 then you would share the same amount of pride in your innovations like we do, it requires harder work, but the results are worth it - and PT4 speaks for itself.

PS: please read this post which responded to your questions about video tutorials, I think you might have overlooked it because you asked again for a video tutorial for My Reports. Please clarify if my understanding is not correct.

- TT

As explained above by WhiteRider, we do intend to eventually add a tracking solution for items that are not hands in the future, but this will not be ready prior to the commercial release of PT4. This is a project we have scheduled for the future. When we add this functionality, we will remember your request to keep bonuses separate from win rate so it can be graphed autonomously.

Until that time, the only solution that would work for you is following WhiteRider's guidance to create a dedicated player just for tracking your bonuses, manually create a hand to define the bonus, and then import the hand. It will work - but we admit it is not the best solution.

- TT

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- TT

Of course I haven't spoken with all of the tool makers, but I'd find it strange if the sites' built in hotkeys were a reason for anything at all. The one multisite tool I've used (maybe strictly not "on the market today" as it went freeware a while ago) allows users to define their hotkeys. I'd assume that's pretty usual.

Which is nice. Would you consider polishing the rest of the PT4 main interface (and dialogs after that) to get closer to standard Windows sw functionality (I'm talking specifically about keyboard usability here)?

PokerTracker 4 is about as close as we can get to using keyboard shortcuts without crossing the line into the realm of the poker rooms. Each of the keyboard shortcuts below are not used anywhere, and it is unlikely that a poker room may use these keyboard shortcuts to create a future conflict. Because PokerTracker is a helper application, by design it should never interfere with the playing experience, this means we can only include keyboard shortcuts that we are positive will never be used by the poker rooms. Think of it this way - keyboard shortcuts are a potential liability, if just one user has an issue that causes them to lose money accidentally because of a keyboard shortcut affecting their game... shudder to think! We lose sleep over issues like this, and work very hard to make sure that it wil not happen. Our goal is to make people money, not accidentally cause them to lose money.

The keyboard shotcuts in PT4 include:

• CTRL-A: Select all rows in a hand report (helpful when replaying or exporting a range of hands)
• Right Arrow: Replayer - Move forward through each step in a hand
• Left Arrow: Replayer - Move backward through each step in a hand
• CTRL-Left Arrow: Replayer - Replayer the hand located one position above the current hand in the report
• CTRL-Right Arrow: Replayer - Replayer the hand located one position below the current hand in the report

As I explained earlier, we do not mind if third parties create apps to control PT4 beyond our basic shortcut features that we include - we view this as a positive for players like you.

PS: PT4 is designed for both Windows and OSX. We anticipate the OS X version will be available before the end of the year.

How do I disable hero hud?

Open the HUD Profile Editor. Edit the profile you are using. Click Table Groups, and show the Group Properties for the on-table player stats.From the drop down menu change from Everyone to Everyone But Hero.



- TT

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That's not correct at all (see Party Poker).

I really can't read from your answer if I was able to make my points in my earlier post. I'll try again.

The configurable hotkey for game time use is something that has been brought up earlier (by others than me). I haven't seen that addressed in any answer so far. A simple "we won't provide configurable hotkeys" will do, so we get the info that someone at PT has actually read and understood the idea.

My other point was about following normal Windows accessibility standards in non-game-time use. Are you saying that you're worried to use, for example, Tab key properly, or Ctrl-S to save a (stat/column/hud) because of interference issues with poker clients, or is it lacking just because it never occurred to you? Since PT3 has used Party's hotkeys for years in replayer use you must have enough data on the interference problems by now.

As stated earlier by Derek in post 2060, PT4 doesn't provide a good interface to do this particular thing externally (obviously there are ways of doing it without interfering with PT4 at all, too... but it doesn't get any simpler that route). I can make a program or an AHK script clicking at bitmaps triggered by my privately defined hotkey to tag a hand but THAT is going to be error prone, compared to any method that's implemented inside PT4.


In case this was in response to my comment about Windows standards, I'd assume OSX has some standard keyboard functionality too... I'm not familiar with their methods and terminology, though.

We just performed a test and were surprised to discover that the CTRL-A keyboard shortcut was used by Party Poker to enable or disable autoposting of the blinds, and that control-arrow keys were used for betting. We checked the PartyPoker website prior to including this shortcut, they did not list CTRL-A or the betting shortcuts as shown in this link. Based on this new info we may be forced to alter or remove the keyboard shortcut from PT4 prior to release, we will consult with PartyPoker to see if they predict any downsides. Thank you for notifying us.


We have explained a few times in our replies to you that we do not intend to include configurable hotkeys in PT4, but third party developers are free to do so. The additional text was to explain why we made this decision. We believe our customers deserve insight into our thought process, they deserve more than a simple "no" when we do not intend to add their feature request - they deserve to learn why.

Yes, this is exactly what we have been communicating. We have experience with 24 very different poker clients, and also get to see what is coming in the future when networks work with us on beta software development.


I looked for post 2060, but it was not from Derek so I do not know what you are referring to. Perhaps Derek was referring to AHK? If so, that would be correct. I can confirm that qualified third party developers who work with PokerTracker may be able to accomplish this goal - but the apps that they could (might?) provide would not be made using AHK. .


All of our work is cross-platform, any keyboard functionality incorporated in PT4 must therefore be the same on both Windows & OSX, so if there is a standard Windows that is not a standard in OSX, then we probably will not use the Windows standard. I hope this helps help explain some of our dev decisions.

- TT