Total newbie since I am coming to you from your competitor.

When editing the HUD popup groups (or any stat for that matter) how can I tell which stats can be broken down to specific results based on position.

for example: I see the stat Fold vs button open. How do I know if I can set this stat up positionally to tell me how often villain folded his BB vs button open or his SB vs. button open?

Also: I am totally confused by the popup groups. It seem you have a choice of building a positional popup group or a standard popup group? I don't understand the difference between the two and am having a hard time figuring out how to add them into my hud.

Edit: Totally seperate issue: The Hud appears to forget the positiong i have established on the Merge network (even after I select lock and save)....I was playing around with hud settings while playing, and every time I applied any changes the hud went back to the original position it was in when i opened the table originally.

Small asthetic setup issue. During the conversion process I toggled show details a couple of times. The converting status (and the cancel button) got partially covered up. I don't know if this happend the 1st time and I did not notice until the end, or if happened somewhere in the middle. Resizing the window did not change what was covered up.



I assume you want to know about the little things too.

This happened to me also.

There was a small bug after I did my first import. I couldnt see any players in the player drop down menu under cash games. I had to go to tournament menu to find my name then go back to cash to see cash result (with no tournament hands played on that name). This was fixed on restart of PT.

Also general first impressions:
I think theres way to many dropdown menus. Its hard to get an overview of where things are.

On first run where you choose site you play on it was a bit counterintuitive or im dumb, I selected Ipoker and party then clicking next I only saw ipoker auto showed up so I thought I had to find the directory for party myself but then ofcourse I see that it takes one site at the time and party was the next step. Also I thought I was choosing which sites I wanted to auto import from but it still auto imports from sites I didnt choose like some micro gaming sites I havent played on for years which i found a bit annoying.

It doesnt auto find WPT poker

Hud doesnt auto save positions in the replayer (figured out later i had to click "save layout")

I want the Hud im using to show up when opening hud profile editor.

Hud name stat doesnt cut off long names

Would be good to have default color ranges on stats for hud.

hmm pokertracker shows an allin hand I won was a split pot, and shows me as losing money in that hand.

top hand

"Att To Steal" - (cnt_steal_att / cnt_steal_opp) * 100 is described as:

"Percentage of the time that a player opened the pot by raising from the cutoff, button, or small blind."

and "cnt_steal_att" is described as "Number of times the player attempted to steal the blinds (open raise from CO/BTN)"

Shouldn't they be the same or i'm I missing something ?

And another thing: what do I have to edit in the value expression of this stat to not take into account CO opens ?

AFAIK, every person we have discussed this with at length has eventually came over to our side of the argument. We are working on an article to explain, in depth, why these stats appear more useful than they actually are - the marketing hype has made vs Hero stats into something that they are not.

Basically, you can never have a sample size large enough, and even if you did, and the player is smart enough to play you differently from other players and smart enough to play their position, their play will adapt and information from historic hands become worthless, thus taking you right back to the problem of sample size. There is one exception to this rule, when you are playing against the biggest or aggressive hyper LAGs who are in every pot - at which point a vs Hero stat would tell you something that you already know.

Asking us why we don't just include this in PT4 because our competition has it is almost like asking Honda why they didn't make their brakes stop working like Toyota. Lives were at risk with Toyota's brake issue, in the case of Vs Hero stats only stacks can be lost with improper information - I admit this is hardly the same thing, but we are tasked with making sure all the data we provide in PT4 is accurate and useful. We don't want to add something to our software that has the potential to cause our users to have problems with their game or make mistakes due to a stat which is correct yet has faulty data - that is why vs hero has perceived value, but it does not have actual value for players. So far we have found that users who grasp this concept will be generally better at using tracking software, they tend to understand how the stats are best used in relation to the sample size.

Please keep an eye out for the article we will be releasing soon which will explain our decision process in greater detail.

- TT

We are not sure what you are addressing in the post above, can you please send us a screen capture in a support ticket at http://www.pokertracker.com/contact/PT4 ? Thanks in advance...

This is not a PokerTracker bug, this is actually a bug that was cause by PokerStars. PokerStars is aware and has said they are addressing the issue in this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...20&postcount=5

Our official statement on the PokerTracker 3 forums is here: https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/...p?f=15&t=38199

For your convenience, I have pasted our statement below. The statement refers to PokerTracker 3, but it applies equally to PokerTracker 4 (except you are already using the current version of PokerTracker 4).

My PT4 freezes often when i try to get something to popup. I then need to force quit and then restart it..

Fwiw... Im running on a MAC with Parallels and windows7 in Coherence MODE. Some happens in normal full screen mode though.

Also I just cant get the HUD to normally start. I dont see a start/stop button. Only the button to press "Get hands while playing". Im assuming this is what i must do...?

bump....

only bumping because I see q's that came after me being answered already...so maybe you missed this?

all working good! faster than PT3 for me. That auto note taking is amazing.

how could I make HUD fonts like in PT3, sharp, right now they are too blurry for my liking by default ( vector disabled )

I think the MUCKED cards are too big. can we change this anywhere or is it possible to adjust this? i like just to see the cards and maybe the # of BBs instead of the amount (as this is irrelevant in MTTs.)

Can i take off the average stack stat in my HUD? Cant find it in the profile

I've not tried PT4 in coherence, but if it helps it appears stable in Full Screen mode for me.

MBP mid-2010
2.4 MHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 Gb 1063 DDR3 RAM

Latest Parallels with guest of Win 7 32-bit

How do I move stats for same seat on all tables at same time?

The Has Position property works for all post flop stats. We do not use the property in preflop stats. In the HUD Profile editor, click on any postflop stat, you will quickly see the Has Position property.



We do not include the positional property in preflop stats because most users would instead want to break these stats by precise position because it is more accurate. Use the Position property in the HUD, it defaults to All Positions, but you can choose from SB, BB, Button, CO, MP or EP.

Positional Popups allow you to quickly put together a HUD that is broken down by each position we track - SB, BB, Button, CO, MP or EP. Its a very fast way of putting together a HUD. But most players do not want a positional HUD for postflop work, that is why we created the "Freeform" drag and drop interface. Most of our HUDs were created as freeform Popup groups. You can convert a Positional Popup to a Freeform Popup - but you cannot do the reverse.

I tested a Merge network skin on my system and I cannot duplicate this problem, I was able to save new positions without any issues. Please create a support ticket at https://www.pokertracker.com/contact/PT4 and we will investigate.

Can you please repost the image at a size that is not reduced so we can investigate? Thanks!

This is a known issue, thnx.

As for your general first impressions:

1) I think theres way to many dropdown menus - Where? Please be more descriptive, and sugest an alternative

2) I thought I was choosing which sites I wanted to auto import from but it still auto imports from sites I didnt choose like some micro gaming sites I havent played on for years which i found a bit annoying. - we add all the sites found on your computer, it is fairly easy to uncheck any site that is not needed. For every 1 person who dislikes this convenience, there are many more who need it I'm afraid.

3) It doesnt auto find WPT poker - We may have designed for just the Party skin to auto-find, please submit a trouble ticket if you would like for us to investigate further - https://www.pokertracker.com/contact/PT4

4) I want the Hud im using to show up when opening hud profile editor - Many players use more than one HUD layout at the same time, that is why we chose the method we use.

5) Hud name stat doesnt cut off long names - There are two name stats to choose from, you are looking for Player Name Short

6) Would be good to have default color ranges on stats for hud - We leave this one up to you and the player community - what say you 2+2ers?

- TT

Have you tried either of the following?
1) Enable Vector Scaling (HUD: Edit HUD Options: General Settings: Allow Vector Scaling
2) Change the font in the HUD Profile Editor?

We use a mixture of 9 point Segoe UI Bold and 9 point Tahoma in PokerTracker 4, this differs from PT3 where we used 10 point Geneva. This may just be a simple font preference on your end, if so feel free to change the fonts if you so desire.

Mucked card size is determined by the Deck Theme that you can choose from the Configure menu. The sizing is up to the theme designer - we expect a thriving theming community very soon, we are already speaking with third party companies who are really excited to get involved!

Click on Table Groups (upper right hand side), we call this group "Table Stats" in our default HUDs. You may choose to delete this group, or you can try changing the display type to Lower Opacity until Mouseover as shown below.

- TT

PokerTracker 4's for Windows was not designed with Coherence in mind, but with that said I just tested your issue on my iMac with 4gigs of ram assigned to the VM while playing 4 tables on two networks at the same time in Coherence mode and had no problems whatsoever. Seems as if you have too little ram in your computer, with your setup I wouldn't personally consider working with less than 8 Gigs or ram. Virtual Machines need horsepower and ram to make them work as expected, I think you may be pushing your system too hard. I know this won't solve your problem, but at least you know where to look on your end to take the next steps - good luck!

The PokerTracker method is

1) Change the position of the table HUD groups on one table either by using control-drag, or by unlocking the HUD.
2) Save the new positioning by clicking on the PT4 HUD Icon located on the top of the table
3) The positioning on tables which match the same profile and game type as the first table will now be updated automatically.

- TT

all stats are blurry and small. set manually all fonts to gsegoe UI size 9 and still same thing. When I maximise table size then stats become readable but are still blurry and not clear.

According to our lead developer, he thinks he knows the cause and can address it in a fix that is already scheduled for our next beta. If that does not solve the issue after the new beta is released, then please submit a support ticket ASAP.

Good luck!