I've added this suggestion (TwoOvercards flop stat) to the Mac version; the update went live last night. Also added related stats FlushDraw&TwoOvercards and GutshotStraight&Overcard. Thanks for sending this suggestion.

A bigger feature in this update is range equity distribution graphs. These graphs are being used more lately e.g. in some advanced new books e.g. by Will Tipton. With this graph together with the already existing heat map you get a good picture of a range's equity breakdown. Here's a pic (the tutorial has a full description):

Great update! Thanks!!

Great program, top customer service from rj999.
Any chance of a video demoing the new functions ?

Thanks!
That's a great suggestion (video), I'll add it to my to-do list. Won't get to it for a while though. For now I'll just refer you to the new section in the tutorial, which shows an example and talks about polarized vs. non-polarized ranges and distribution graphs vs. heat maps.

Thanks for using the app guys and for suggestions and discussion.

Having a problem getting into the Range Editor and manually selecting an opponent's range with the Mac client. I am simulating two players, and trying to give one of the players a manual hand range. Mouse cursor is in the box for that player's hand range in the base view area on the left. In the hand range section on the far right, Range Editor and Breakdown are greyed out. I cannot manually select anything in the hand range matrix by mousing over a box and clicking or by clicking and dragging over several boxes. All of the buttons and features below the hand range matrix seem to work fine. This seems to be the case whether I am trying to create a hand range for Player 1 or Player 2.

I am running OS X 10.7.5 and PokerCruncher 7.1.1. I also have the iPhone app, and I am able to manually select individual hand combos and touch and slide to select multiple hand combos. So, seems like I should have the same or better functionality on the Mac client. What am I doing wrong here?

Thanks in advance!

Hello,
Thanks for buying both the iPhone and Mac versions. Of course, the Mac version should be the same or better, and it's better, let's figure out what's happening on your side here.

From your description it sounds like the 13x13 grid in the hand range view isn't accepting mouse clicks/drags for you, but everything else in the hand range view is working. Mouse clicking/dragging in the grid has been working since day 1, and hasn't changed.

Maybe it has something to do with your OS X version (10.7.5)? I personally am running 10.9.1, but I haven't gotten reports of this problem from others.

I have two suggestions:

1) Can you please email a screenshot of the app at the time of your problem to support@pokercruncher.com (or better, post the screenshot here if you can)?

2) Let's try super clear and granular steps so we can be sure we're doing the same thing:

Step 1) Quit the app.
2) Launch the app.
3) Click Reset:All button.

Note: Player1's Card1 field should now be the selected card field, and the text cursor should be in Player1's text field.

4) Move mouse cursor to the absolute center of the "88" cell in the hand range grid and click the mouse button. (Make sure you don't have any other keys selected at the time of the click e.g. Shift, Control, Fn, etc.)

EXPECTED: The 88 cell should now be selected, i.e. it should be orange color (from the original white color).

Can you pls. do these steps verbatim on your Mac and let me know?

Also, you can also try a Step 0) if all else fails: Restart your Mac.

If you still get the same result, I'm thinking there's an OS version related issue here. I'll look into trying on an older OS than what I have.
Thanks.

Hello bpbenda,

Problem confirmed, I asked someone who has an old OS X version (10.6.8) to try the latest version of the app and we saw the same problem you're reporting (can't click on range grid cells). Also noticed that all keyboard shortcut keys don't work (e.g. Command-R for calculate). But everything is working OK for many people, and of course for me (on 10.9.1).

So this looks to be the first serious bug I've released in a while; apologies. I wish it was easier for me to test on various OS X versions, but it's a lesson that I shouldn't take things for granted. Hold on, I'll be trying things out further on the 10.6.8 machine I have access to (but not direct access), and will keep you updated.
Thanks for reporting this.

Update - Looks like this problem happens on OS X 10.7.x or earlier, but everything's OK on OS X 10.8.x or later. My fault for not testing on multiple OS versions. Tonight I submitted a roll-back app update V.7.1.2 to get the app working for everyone again, with clear instructions in the release notes that you don't have to / need to install the update.

Bummer to take out the range distribution graph feature for now (for some users), but have to do it til I can figure out how to add this feature cleanly. Thanks for reporting this. Btw another user coincidentally sent me email on this issue today.

Wow, thanks for the excellent support! I have an early 2008 MacBook, so I am unable to update beyond 10.7.5. At some point, I just need to buy a newer machine, but this one still gets the job done very well -- one of the many things that I love about Macs in comparison to PCs. I look forward to downloading the update in the App Store, and will report back once I do and have a chance to test such. Thanks again!

Yeah in this day and age a 6 year old machine is pretty old, but if you add extra RAM it should be able to keep up. But why the 10.7.5 limit? Is your Mac 32-bit or 64-bit? (here is an Apple doc page on how to tell)

If you go to the Mac App Store and look at the OS X Mavericks app (10.9.1), do you see it as download-able (and free) on your machine?

Before the range distribution graph update PokerCruncher-Mac was working OK on 10.6.6+ (as far back as you can go for a Mac App Store app), but I'm using a 3rd party library to draw the graph and it looks like it has OS version issues, investigating.

Thanks for patience; I marked the roll-back update 'expedite'; hopefully they'll make it live within a few days.

It's an Intel Core 2 Duo, so it's 64-bit, but my computer is the white MacBook, not a MacBook Pro. It's an Early 2008 MacBook. Mountain Lion (10.8) only supports the Late 2008 Aluminum MacBooks and 2009 and newer MacBooks. Of course, Mavericks (10.9) supports the same. When I go into the App Store and then go under Updates, I see Mavericks there as a free upgrade, but when I click on it it says that my computer does not meet the minimum requirements.

Thanks for info. on the Mac hardware configs and what machine can be upgraded to what OS versions. I'll do my best to support as many OS versions as possible going forward, but it may get tricky as I start to add more complex features like distribution graphs.

An update - Mac version update V.7.1.2 has gone live today which will fix the glaring problems (mouse clicking on grid, keyboard shortcuts, etc.). It may take a few hours for the update to propagate around to everyone.

This is just a temporary fix to get the app fully working again. I have rolled back the range distribution graph feature til I figure out how to add it cleanly. I will bring it back in the coming weeks. Thanks for patience while I figure out how to get everything in a clean state.

Note: If you have OS X 10.8.x or higher, there's no need to install this update because everything's OK on the latest OS X versions.

Works like a charm, thanks! Ironically enough, won an event at the Hollywood Poker Open this week, so will probably just pony up for a new MacBook now.

Hello,
1°/ In the "Hit Hand" stats, what is "Flush Draw & OpenEndStraightFlush" please ?
2°/ I have updated by applestore my pokercruncher to 7.1.2 but I don't have "breakdown" and "Distr.Graph". How to do please?

There's no such stat; it would be redundant (the FlushDraw part). The stat you're looking at is just OpenEndStraightFlush. The FlushDraw.. part is not part of this stat but is part of the several FlushDraw&.. combination stats directly above it. I have used ".." and indentation to indicate combination stats. Also the "Hit Hand" vs. "Make Hand" selector isn't involved here; these stats are there and are named the same for either choice.

Yes sorry for this confusion this week. I have taken out the range distribution graph feature temporarily in V.7.1.2 to address a critical problem for users with OS X 10.7.x or earlier. I had put notes in the update's release notes about this, and that users with later OS's can skip this update. But I know release notes are like fine print to read and are not the perfect way to handle this situation (or even a good way). It was just that I was in an emergency situation this week. So just hang in there, the range distribution graph feature will be back in the app shortly, I expect within the next week. Thanks for getting the app and for writing in.

Congrats on the win! A new MacBook(Pro) sounds great. I went the other direction this week and got an old used MacBook with 10.6.8 to test on, and have just gotten to the bottom of this OS X version problem in the app. I have a fix (in the library I'm using to draw the graph), and it's running cleanly on both my 10.6.8 and 10.9.1 machines. The next update V.7.2.1 to fix this and bring the range distribution graph feature back into the app should go live in a week (maybe even ~4 days).

Notam,
Thanks for sending good suggestions.
Your suggestion above went live yesterday in the Mac version (full stats and features for Deal-To-Turn, as for Deal-To-Flop). The tutorial has a section on it. The Mac version has been upgraded/renamed to be the Expert version of PokerCruncher so it should support this as you suggested.

Also I haven't forgotten about your other suggestions e.g. narrow a range from flop to turn (and turn to river) based on stats' check-boxes; will get to it a little later this year.

Can pokercruncher calculate flop equity? For example, I want to calculate how much equity 67o flops against 20% range. I only care about flop.

Yes, the Deal-To-Flop feature. Here's a link to this feature in the tutorial.

I'm confused about some things, am I missing something or are these bugs?

1.) An example hand:
Player 1: QdQc
Player 2: JJ-22, AJs-ATs, A6s-A2s, K9s+, Qs9s+, Qh9h+, J8s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, AQo-AJo, KJo+ (some example range doesn't matter)

When I deal to flop and look at player 2 range breakdown it includes combos of hands with Qd or Qc (ex. QJs shows 4 combos when it should obviously only be 2)

2.) Is there a button on the Stats panel to show # of combos as opposed to %.

3.) Using same example as 1, I have a flop of 5h 3h 9d. When I'm going through the checkboxes and the bottom total hit there's a box for Flush Draw & ... OES, there's also a box for Flush Draw & .... OEStraightFlush. In this case that is the hand 64hh. If I click one of the checkboxes the Total Hit % goes up BUT ITS THE SAME HAND, why is adding the same hand making the Total Hit % go up?

I've seen that multiple times for hands. What am I missing?

Hello cswolf,

Re. 1):
I entered your scenario and am not seeing what you're seeing; I'm seeing the app say 2 combos for the OJs cell in "Breakdown" view (when you click on the QJs cell and also in the "View Details" text). Instead of your range I tried a more general range Top25% and also saw 2 combos for the QJs cell. Can you please check again and send me an updated test case?

However in the "Range Editor" view, the app shows the full combos available for each cell in the small 4x4 suit combos grid, i.e. card removal effects aren't shown in this grid. But of course card removal effect has to be taken into account during the calculation to get the right result (and the "Breakdown" view is based on the calc results). So in the RangeEditor view you specify all combos that can theoretically be in the range, and the calculation/Breakdown shows what combos are actually possible given the other card/range assignments (or dead cards). Note that range removal effects are also included, which would be out of scope of the "static" editing of the range in the RangeEditor view.

Re. 2):
There's no such button in the StatsView currently, but when you're doing flop texture analysis (or flop+turn texture analysis), you can see this # of combos info. as follows: e.g., do flop texture analysis: enter a range and a flop and set DealTo=Flop, then calculate, then click on the range to select it, then mouse-over the range's stats' checkbox buttons in the Stats view. As you mouse-over a stat, the HandRange view shows the # of combos for each stat (in red color, at the top-right part of the view). Here's a link to this feature in the tutorial.

Re. 3):
Actually there's no stat "Flush Draw & .... OEStraightFlush"; the FlushDraw part would be redundant. The combination stats are listed using ".." as both a suffix and a prefix. Note that the OpenEndStraightFlush stat has no ".." prefix so isn't part of the "Flush Draw & .." combination stats section; it's a standalone stat.

Regardless, you have a good point and perhaps the app can use an improvement here. The TotalHit stat at the bottom is a simple sum of the checkmark'ed stats (as the help text next to the stat says). So if you turn on the checkboxes for stats that overlap, the TotalHit stat will over-estimate the total. This puts the burden on the user to watch the overlaps, which I realize isn't ideal; it's just that currently the TotalHit stat isn't the full solution yet. I'll add taking overlapping stats into account in TotalHit to my to-do list. I think this is a case where this app is trying to be PokerStove + e.g. FlopZilla, and I haven't gotten all the way there on the second part (yet).

Thanks for feedback.

Was the above feature -- TopPair, MiddlePair, BottomPair -- implemented in Mac version 7.3.1? I have 7.3.1 and still see "One Pair" in the Stats window. Am I missing something?

btw, Thanks! I've been doing "hand combos" by hand as I read some poker books until I found this tool for my Mac.

Yes these stats are in the Mac-expert version 7.3.1. But they're only calc'ed for DealTo = flop or turn, not river. In the iOS/Android versions they're calc'ed for only DealTo=flop.

Thanks for putting the program to use. More app update improvements are on the way.

Version 7.4.1 of PokerCruncher-Mac went live yesterday which fixes this issue with the TotalHit stat. This stat is now the union of the checkmarked stats, not a simple/dumb sum as before. So overlapping of stats is taken into account now in the TotalHit stat. Cswolf, thanks for bringing up this issue.

Hi...

I'm using the PokerTracker Equity Calculator and read some comments about PokerCruncher
Its better than PT own calculator . Does it have more options ?

I'm looking for something real good that can help me not only eq but also Icm and call ranges / Push / Fold ... etc


Thanks