im buy this right now lets see how it is

24 tables?, or 2-4 tables (I can do that). O.w. pretty sick imo : ).

Thx Cajun, 99k, RGee - do send suggestions if anything comes to mind.

Updates to all apps are in the submit queue now for a few days, live in 10..12 days.

And right after the next Quizzer update goes live I'll have another Quizzer update ready - worldwide high score leaderboards! E.g. after you take each test you'll have the option of posting your score (the amt of time you took will also be a factor).

I've eval'ed a few (free) high score server frameworks and reached a successful end to end integration with a good one (OpenFeint). Shouldn't get ahead of myself but this looks pretty easily plug-able with most of these nice free social frameworks. A community aspect should add a new perspective on the scores we're seeing individually.

twentyfour, u get like ~2 seconds per decision. its nice not to have to think about the %s and just know them.

Wow, no typo, sick!

kk vs KK+,AsKs is actually 24.5 vs 74.9 aplication shows 31.3 vs 68.8 , its quite big difference

PokerStove and PokerCruncher give me the same answer for KK vs KK+, AKs: 32.2 / 67.8. Do you think PokerStove is wrong too?

Thanks for checking funkyj, I'm seeing agreement with Stove too (except Cruncher Monte Carlo has a higher margin of error due to fewer hands).

niadar - Did you set AsKs (spades) or AKs in Cruncher? That might explain it. I tried both and got agreement with Stove.

To set specific suits in hand ranges you need to use the Suits button in the hand range builder screen.

Also start clean i.e. no dead cards etc. Pic would help. Thx, -RJ

sorry , my pokerstove went crazy or somenthing i checked again and it s all right:d

Great, n.p. at all, thanks for getting the app. Can always use more testing and cross verification, glad people are looking closely.

Finally got the app. It's great. Love it! thanks

Caj

Just got the 4 color deck + fav/dog odds update. Good stuff!

Super, love to hear it, thanks (funkyj too).

Next Quizzer update submitted, will go live in a week. Worldwide leaderboards for quiz scores. Looking forward to seeing if lots of scores get posted.

And Cruncher, work started on the next update (e.g. setting for num hands to simulate). As long as I/we have ideas, I plan to keep improving it.

V.3.0 of Hold'em Odds Quizzer went live tonight - high score leaderboards. I'm hoping this community aspect will add a new appeal to the app.

To get going enable OpenFeint, one of the leading social game communities, when you launch the app (you're asked only once). Then batch-post your scores in the Results screen or one by one right after each test. In OpenFeint you'll want to change your username to your desired name in the settings tab, and also "secure" your account.

Your quiz score 0..1000 is based on your grade (accuracy), quiz completion time (up to about 75 bonus or penalty), and you get a 25 penalty for each cancelled answer (to combat cheating).

I posted my scores, I'm rj123. Didn't exactly ace the tests, excuses later.

The 7 ...(o) base tests make up the OverallOddsKnowledge aggregate leaderboard. So it's best to start with these 7 quizzes. Whoever's at the top of this list is the current overall champ!

Hope you enjoy it, do send feedback and improvements.

Keeping the updates going - PokerCruncher V.2.82 just went live. Main feature - num hands to simulate setting, including an infinite mode. You can now stop/continue the simulation.

3GS's will prob. want 2xDefault or 4xDefault.

Next up, AlienBoy's export hand to email suggestion. May not go live til mid Dec. (if I work on some other things) but it'll be there. Thx for your support.

What is the best way to update existing installed apps on the iPhone/iPod touch?

Launch the app store on your device, tap and go to the Updates tab (updates list will refresh), tap on an update or "update all". Then later at your convenience sync your device with iTunes to copy the updates to your mac/pc.

any non american bought it?
I get an credit card error which never occurred for any other program.
Meh. Wrote iTunes support, hopefully this will get solved.

Yes there are sales regularly on various non-US app stores.

I have an open issue with Apple that the apps aren't visible in some app stores e.g. Brazil, South Africa. But if you can see the app you should be able to buy it. The order processing is 100% on Apple/iTunes side.

Just curious which country/app store are you on? Thx.

Purchased and appreciated, and 2nded for ICM Iphone App, it'd be the most practical poker Iphone App for IRL tournament players IMO.

I'm from germany, it also shows the price in €.. so there's no reason it shouldn't work imo.
Really strange.

Agree. I take it you've checked the card expiration date, address, etc? It's beyond my scope, hope iTunes gets back to you.

Maybe it will work later. Or you can temporarily switch to another (nearby) country app store that takes your credit card / currency. The person that wrote to me from Brazil switched stores to buy it (isn't on the Brazil store period).

Breathweapon - Thanks. ICM suggestion noted but there's a lot to work on.

Update:

I've submitted the next PokerCruncher update V.2.91 - AlienBoy's suggestion export hand to email.

Also today *free* versions of PokerCruncher and Hold'em Odds Quizzer went live. To see them search for "PokerCruncher" in the app store.

Especially for a 5 dollar app I think a free/demo version helps the user. Cruncher-Free supports only 2 players and calculation of hand ranges and Deal-To-Flop is disabled. But you *can* use the hand range builder screens, top x% slider, etc., to get an idea of what the app can do. Quizzer-Free has only one quiz and you can't post your score on the leaderboards.

So if you've been on the fence on getting Cruncher, I hope the free version helps.

Also a question for breathweapon and others who have written about ICM - are you suggesting an ICM calculator like the many internet ones?, or a calculator and quizzer/trainer, or something way more powerful? Thanks for all your feedback.

Cruncher and Quizzer are awesome and definitely worth the $$. I confess I use the quiz program a lot more than the calculator but the calculator is still awesome. It is great to be thinking about a hand somewhere and being able to pull out Cruncher and run some hand ranges!

twice was in line/waiting somewhere today and busted out a few random 10 question quizzes. cool feature.

99k, funkyj, DC, and everyone - I really appreciate your support of the apps, thank you. Great to know that fellow poker players are liking them.

V.2.91 has gone live with the email hand and results feature.

Here's an example of an export:

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PokerCruncher V.2.91

(Equity Tie Win)
Player 1: 39.9% 0.49% 39.7% [Qs,Qh]
Player 2: 60.1% 0.49% 59.8% {AA-KK, AKs, AKo}

Board: [?,?,?,?,?]
Deal To: River
Dead Cards: []

Monte Carlo Simulation: 54000 random hands
==========

The last line tells if a Monte Carlo sim was done or a complete enumeration (exact, is done if all player cards are specific cards and all flop cards are specified) e.g.:

Complete Enumeration: 990 of 990 possible hands

I've pointed out that PokerCruncher has more features than PokerStove (the Deal-To-Flop/Turn/HoleCards feature that lets you do flop texture analysis, hand histograms and many stats) but I should also point out a weakness. You'll notice that PokerStove can usually simulate millions of hands in the same time that PokerCruncher takes for several tens of thousands of hands. The 3GS is a few times faster than the 3G but even this doesn't get Cruncher close.

We talked about this early in this thread. The difference between iPhone and pc CPU speeds is part of the reason, but this is also because Cruncher currently uses a "naive" hand evaluator and not one of the highly optimized ones that use pre-computed lookup tables, etc. The advantage of the current naive algorithm is that it's very general, allowing me to add the many additional stats and Deal-To-Flop and the range equity breakdown heat map easily.

I have a long-term goal of plugging in an optimized evaluator (can't promise this though). Currently the error margin is a few tenths of 1%. I don't have the statistics knowledge needed but I estimate I would need to speed it up at least 10x to get the error down to one tenth of 1%. The current error margin isn't too bad I think so I've focused on adding new features. Hope you enjoy and thanks again.