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Originally Posted by Niranjana View Post
When will the Quizzer be awayable for Android? Will you ad hero vs. Villians range on Flop to the Quizzer? Same like the desktop euity analizer of equilab from Pokerstrategy?
Not in the foreseeable future. On Android the PokerCruncher app will probably be our only app.

Hero vs. villain with range is already in the Quizzer app (iOS). There are 2 such hand range tests: pre-flop and post-flop. The Quizzer app also already has 1 multi-player test, where the multiple villains have ranges in some of the questions.

"The Quizzer app also already has 1 multi-player test, where the multiple villains have ranges in some of the questions." what does some oft the questions means please? You can juice between the two quizzes pre and postflop, isn't it? Can you also select if you look me to be trained in multiway or hu pots, or will it be random? Could I have some more details about the options of the quizzer app? Thx ahead.

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Some formatting/readability suggestions:
* It's good to use e.g. well-formatted quote-blocks so one can tell who wrote what. The above post has copy/pasted replies by you and me from another thread but it's hard to tell who wrote what.
* It's good to proofread, e.g., "juice" above.

>>> what does some oft the questions means please?

I'm not going to list several questions here, just one. An example from the multi-player test:

P1: 66
P2: KK
P3: Js4s
Board: 9s6c2s
What's P1's equity?

Some of the questions in this test involve ranges.

>>> You can juice between the two quizzes pre and postflop, isn't it?

For the hand ranges tests, yes. The multi-player test has both preflop and postflop questions combined in the same test.

>>> Can you also select if you look me to be trained in multiway or hu pots, or will it be random?

All of the questions in the multi-player test involve multiple players.
However there's a "Random 10" test that selects 10 random questions from the full set of tests, so you'll get a variety of heads up and multiway situations.

>>> Could I have some more details about the options of the quizzer app?

Please see the app store description of "Hold'em Odds Quizzer". There are 5 screenshots and a text description.

Started using Pkrcruncher but can,t seem to set ranges for players for calculation. For example, trying to test top 10 percent vs AJs, but range does get to player. Tried to name it but didn't work either. Please give step by step instructions. (Used to be easy with poker stove.)

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Guessing you meant to say "but range does *not* get to player".

You probably didn't tap the "Add" button in the range editor screen after selecting top 10% with the slider. So your range was still empty. The slider only selects cells, it doesn't add cells to the range.

Note that after adding cells to the range the range text at the top of the screen will change from <Empty> to eg 99+, ... and the range %age will change from 0%.

If this isn't the explanation do let me know.

(And, we've gotten feedback from many other users that setting ranges in PokerCruncher is easy too.)

Why can you only select PP Below Top Card? I would like if you add a checkbox for "PP Below board"

First, the existing stat you mention, PocketPairBelowTopCard is only available in the Mac (Expert) version of this app, but this is the PokerCruncher-iOS (Advanced version) thread.

Because there are probably hundreds of stats and stat combinations that one could think of adding, but there's space for only a few dozen even on a Mac, so I picked what I thought are the important stats. But if one or two more good stats come up, I'll add them, as I have over the years.

In this case I believe your suggested stat PPBelowBoard wouldn't be as good/useful as for example the existing PPBelowTopCard stat. Just about all of the existing stats are hand types or draws or combination draws that a player would think about continuing with on the flop or turn. When you turn on the checkboxes of the stats you're interested in, you get a TotalHit %age at the bottom, which is the %age of the time the player's range hits the board. And you can use the new "Filter" button to filter the range further based on the checkboxes (Mac-Expert version).

The existing PPBelowTopCard stat is an important distinction over OverPair and TopPair and OnePair because e.g. if you have 99 and the flop is Ten high garbage, you'd most probably continue with your 99, as it's too early to give up yet on the hand (and you're ahead anyway a good percentage of the time). And just for curiosity value it's interesting to see how often a pocket pair has one overcard flopped on it.

I don't think the same can be said about PPBelowBoard. If a player is going to continue with PPBelowBoard, then he'll continue with any OnePair, so then can use or look at just the hit OnePair stat. If you're trying to figure out the odds for a weak pair in general, (OnePair - OverPair - TopPair - PPBelowTopCard) would give a good estimate.

So I don't yet see good use-cases for PPBelowBoard. Can you describe how you would use this stat? It may be a good stat to add anyway just theoretically or for curiosity value; if have an OverPair stat why not have an UnderPair stat. But I lean against it right now because there's space for only so many stats and we have to prioritize.

Thanks, -RJ

Ok that's a good explanation. But there are times it can be useful if playing versus a recreational player who can't fold a pair on the flop yet. For example on a J 75 he'll continue with 66, 44, 33 for at least one small bet. To a big bet he'll fold. So you can estimate what sizing to use overall. And there are a lot more instances like this. I didn't know this was for the app version, sorry.

Thanks for giving an example.

>>> can't fold a pair on the flop yet

That was part of what I was saying, that if villain will continue with UnderPair, he'll continue with any one pair so can then use the more general OnePair stat (and subtract off e.g. OverPair if that's too strong to be in his calling range).

>>> For example on a J 75 he'll continue with 66, 44, 33

Note that 66 isn't below all the board cards so isn't part of your proposed new stat. Would need a few more stats, UnderPair, PPBetween2ndAnd3rd, PPBetween3rdAnd4Th, etc. for full PP coverage. Or can fold them all together in one "WeakPP" stat maybe. I'll think about it but I think right now the existing OnePair stats will do. And we're running out of room for new stats so we have to be picky from here on.

Hey guys, I purchased the Mac expert version. I am trying to use the Deal to Flop feature to figure really simple stuff. For instance I am curious to see the chance of flopping a straight draw with a hand like KJ or T7.

Any idea the simplest way to do this? For some reason I can't figure it out.

Matt

I'll give instructions below.

First, note that this is the PokerCruncher-iOS thread; this question should go in this app's Mac version thread. Next time..

In the Mac-Expert version:
1) Click ResetAll button to start clean.
2) Assign KJ to Player1.
3) Click the DealTo "<-" button twice to set DealTo = Flop. (This button is under the board.)
4) Click on any of Player1's card fields or text field to select Player1.
5) Calculate.

Then look at the stats you're interested in in the Stats view e.g. OpenEndStraight is 3.3%. Also look at DoubleGutStraight.

To look at Player2's stats, click on any of Player2's fields on the LHS to select Player2.

After you get this, can you please let me know what step(s) you missed the first time? I'd like to know because this is a basic scenario to set up in this program and if new users are having trouble setting it up then it could mean that the user interface isn't intuitive enough. Although I don't get this question too often : ).

Also, the Deal-To-Flop section of the tutorial may help.

Hey pal, just want to say, I love your app. Very useful to me

Love it. Best 7.99 ive spent yet. Wow this is perfect.

ChipsNcrisps, robert_utk - Thanks for good words on the app. Years of work and improvements. To all, pls. consider rating/reviewing on the App Store if convenient.

Just noticed one more improvement to make: on the latest iPhone (7) and latest iOS 10, the 4 up/down/left/right arrow buttons in the hand range editor screen aren't sized right (2 of the buttons got shrunk down). New iOS and iPhone releases always have a surprise or two. Luckily this isn't a blocker. I'll fix in an app update in a week or so.

Hey rj999,

First, nice software ! The best MAC available Poker Software of its kind.

It could be really helpful if we could filter or modify(remove hands) hand ranges from the heat map view.

When i do analysis on my range, i want to see which part have EQ% over 50% so i flip over the Heat map, than if i want to remove hands i got to flip back on the hand matrix and when i remove hands i got to calculate again.

If we could remove hands directly from the heat map it would be a very nice add on.

Hi,
Thanks for writing in and suggesting. I've moved the above post into this app's Mac-Expert version thread (this is the iOS version thread) and have replied there (reply).

Hi. I'm not a very smart person, but I would like to be a very smart person. Will your app make me smarter?

By the way, I think you're very sexy.

I don't know about smarter, but it can't make us dumber right. Well, maybe it can. I retract. Use app at own risk!

In a poker way right, not regular way.

All - this is all just kidding around, pls. give some slack. 'Crane' and I used to play cards years ago in the same poker room far far away, hope things are going great up there.

I've been pondering buying that app for my iPhone. Is it the forum official thread concerning Poker Cruncher or is there another thread? Is this app worth it if I only play live cash game ?

(Disclosure: I'm the author of PokerCruncher)

The only PokerCruncher support/discussion threads that I/PokerCruncher participate in are here on TwoPlusTwo. There's an iOS version thread (this thread), Mac-Expert version thread, and Android version thread. "Official" may be too strong a word as I/PokerCruncher don't have any official relationship with TwoPlusTwo; it was just the best place to discuss with the app's users imo.

Re. "Is this app worth it if I only play live cash game", obviously I'm biased and won't comment on that. These threads, app description and reviews in the app store, our website's tutorial & videos, are good places to start your investigation.

Thx for the quick reply and honesty, I'll browse your website and wait for a user to comment on the live cash game only part

Re. "live cash game only" part - no live cash game would allow anyone to use an app during a hand. An app like this would be for reviewing hands you've played offline and analyzing/studying/improving offline.

Again I can't comment on the "Is this app worth it" part. This thread is ~20 pages spanning years; you may find comments on what you're looking for in earlier parts of the thread.

i'm interested in purchasing pokercruncher. if i buy the advanced desktop version, am i able to download the iphone/ipad versions for free?

thanks.

why do you need someone's advice on the usefulness of pokercruncher for live games? poker is poker is poker. you're always playing against a hand or a range and your equity is always critical. i play live exclusively and an equity calculator is just as important live as online.

Thanks for interest in PokerCruncher.
No; the Mac and iPhone/iPad versions are separate apps/purchases. It has to be this way; macOS and iOS are different/incompatible operating systems. It's not possible to make an app that runs on both, period; has to be separate apps. An indication of this is that iOS and Mac have different/separate app stores.

It's also not possible to create a discounted app bundle across the iOS and Mac app stores, o.w. I would have done so. PokerCruncher does have a discounted app bundle, but it's for the 4 iPhone apps (PokerCruncher, Tournament Cruncher, OddsTeacher, OddsQuizzer). See the apps' Purchase webpage or the iPhone app store for details.

Hopefully this won't stop you from getting multiple versions of this program. The different versions of this app are not simple UI re-scalings/re-fittings, but are complete re-do's of the UI's and interactions to tailor/nail the UI for the particular device/OS e.g. the larger iPad screen, device rotation, etc. And it's an effort to keep all the versions up to date with Apple's OS updates.

Note that the Mac version is the more powerful Expert version, not Advanced version as on iOS/Android. The apps' Tutorial&Videos webpage has a section on the expert-level features.

Finally purchased it... super cool so far, just playing around with it. I watched the one basic video on how to use it so i got the basics down.

Awesome program!