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12-18-2008 , 09:06 PM
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Last edited by Bobo Fett; 07-24-2011 at 07:36 AM.
12-18-2008 , 09:31 PM
Omaha support?
12-18-2008 , 11:51 PM
will this be added onto the old tool or is it gonna cost more?
12-20-2008 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by r0eKY
will this be added onto the old tool or is it gonna cost more?
It will all be part of one tool and the price will be higher.

Existing customers will get a free upgrade.
12-20-2008 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GrindUnumb
Omaha support?
Depends on how many people ask for it. At minimum, I want to make the Texas Hold'em support 100% stable first. Though if a hundred people fill out the beta application asking for Omaha, I'd reconsider.
12-20-2008 , 02:38 PM
Well I play a good bit of NLHE, PLO and Mixed 8-game, so in that case I will get in a application.
12-20-2008 , 04:34 PM
What exactly do you mean by: "Builds a model of your typical opponent"
One very important question: Have you contacted the poker sites to make sure all the futures in your program are legal at there site, so your customers don't get in trouble?
This looks promising, especially the interval for statistics. I do hope you can make the performance efficient.

Even though I don't play Omaha, I would recommend supporting it. Because that would give you a big edge on the competition and could help a lot putting your product out there. Right now Omaha players don't have any good options.
12-21-2008 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EazyDoesIt
What exactly do you mean by: "Builds a model of your typical opponent"
For any given statistic, S, you could plot a graph showing what fraction of players you've observed have an observed value of S less than x. Like the red line in the graph for WTSD below.

Unfortunately, for many players we only have a few observations to work with, so the observed distribution has much higher variance than the true distribution. You can see, for example, the abrupt vertical spike at x=50%, where many players were observed on two flops and went to the showdown once. There are other noticeable spikes at x = 0%, 33%, 66%, and 100%.

Via the application of calculus, Poker Sleuth is able to remove the extra variance created by the inaccurate observations to come up with a model for the true distribution of WTSD among players, shown as the green line in the graph below.

Poker Sleuth uses the model as the Bayesian prior distribution when computing credible intervals. A bit more is described here.



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Originally Posted by EazyDoesIt
One very important question: Have you contacted the poker sites to make sure all the futures in your program are legal at there site, so your customers don't get in trouble?
Not yet, but I have read over their policies carefully.

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Originally Posted by EazyDoesIt
This looks promising, especially the interval for statistics. I do hope you can make the performance efficient.
Performance will definitely not be a problem.

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Originally Posted by EazyDoesIt
Even though I don't play Omaha, I would recommend supporting it. Because that would give you a big edge on the competition and could help a lot putting your product out there. Right now Omaha players don't have any good options.
Good observation. Thanks!
12-22-2008 , 12:04 AM
On omaha, there are many people waiting for a third generation tracker to support it. Also, do you support themes for your HUD? By that I mean can I have one set of stats for say 6max NL and another for 6max Limit?
12-23-2008 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Also, do you support themes for your HUD? By that I mean can I have one set of stats for say 6max NL and another for 6max Limit?
Not yet, but that's a great idea and not too difficult to add. I've put it on the Poker Sleuth bug/feature tracker so it won't fall off the radar.

Thanks for the suggestion!
01-09-2009 , 05:05 PM
Last call to sign up for the private beta. The private beta will launch sometime next week.
01-09-2009 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
On omaha, there are many people waiting for a third generation tracker to support it. Also, do you support themes for your HUD? By that I mean can I have one set of stats for say 6max NL and another for 6max Limit?
I agree, the truth is there many site don't have any PLO HUD alternative at the moment like B2B, BOSS, ONGAME (AceHud works but very unstable)
01-09-2009 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by albin
I agree, the truth is there many site don't have any PLO HUD alternative at the moment like B2B, BOSS, ONGAME (AceHud works but very unstable)
I think many of us want a next gen PLO tracker. PAHUD does not support 3betting stats and many others. When I played HU or 6max PLO, 3betting stats are quite helpful. I also play the Stars Mixed 8-Game rather often, so I am wishing someday a tracker will support all the games & be able to switch the HUD in real time with the games. I know that is a longshot though, so I will settle for PLO request for now.
01-10-2009 , 07:37 AM
PLO and im all YOURS.......will IPoker be added at some date?
01-12-2009 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SeRvE_VolleY
will IPoker be added at some date?
Yes. Support for iPoker Limit Texas Hold'em is already in place and just needs testing to work out the kinks. (I'm US based and regrettably cannot test it myself). If you want Pot Limit or No Limit support, just send some iPoker .xml hand history files to support@pokersleuth.com.

Cheers,
Daniel
01-20-2009 , 10:26 AM
Responses to the beta applications have been sent out. If you haven't received one, check your junk mail folder.
01-20-2009 , 12:14 PM
i have poker sleuth installed but something seems to be wrong. All the stats look like this.
3-98
01-20-2009 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
i have poker sleuth installed but something seems to be wrong. All the stats look like this.
3-98
When it's first installed, it hasn't had much time to parse your hand histories yet, so it has to assume a very wide range for all stats for every player. The range will narrow as it gathers more data and builds up its database. Whenever you have it running, Poker Sleuth will gradually parse your old hand histories in the background (unobtrusively using around 5% of your CPU if you're actively using your computer, and 100% if you've been idle for a minute).

Any new hand histories you gather while Poker Sleuth is running will be parsed immediately.

Edit: Or at least that's what it's supposed to do. If the stats don't update as you gather new hand histories, then there's a bug.
01-20-2009 , 12:37 PM

By application of calculus and some common sense, I would estimate that that model is not the best model there is!
01-20-2009 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by █████
By application of calculus and some common sense, I would estimate that that model is not the best model there is!
"All models are wrong, but some models are useful" - statistician George E. P. Box.

That said, care to elaborate on how you think the model might be improved?
01-21-2009 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
When it's first installed, it hasn't had much time to parse your hand histories yet, so it has to assume a very wide range for all stats for every player. The range will narrow as it gathers more data and builds up its database. Whenever you have it running, Poker Sleuth will gradually parse your old hand histories in the background (unobtrusively using around 5% of your CPU if you're actively using your computer, and 100% if you've been idle for a minute).

Any new hand histories you gather while Poker Sleuth is running will be parsed immediately.

Edit: Or at least that's what it's supposed to do. If the stats don't update as you gather new hand histories, then there's a bug.
i'll play some more and see what happens. Also it crashes frequently.
01-21-2009 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
i'll play some more and see what happens. Also it crashes frequently.
If you haven't already done so, please report any crashes you find through our bug tracker or by emailing support@pokersleuth.com. Our turn-around time for fixing reported crashes is pretty good. The more information you can give us, the better.
01-21-2009 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
If you haven't already done so, please report any crashes you find through our bug tracker or by emailing support@pokersleuth.com. Our turn-around time for fixing reported crashes is pretty good. The more information you can give us, the better.
when it crashed it asked me if i wanted to report it. I assume that the report went to you
01-21-2009 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
when it crashed it asked me if i wanted to report it. I assume that the report went to you
It does. Thank you. I have no way of linking the reports with your 2+2 username, so I wasn't sure.

If you haven't noticed an email from us in response to the crash report, check your spam or junk mail folder.

Also, make sure you're running at least version 1.3.0.333, which fixes many problems and will automatically check to see if a newer version is available.
01-22-2009 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
Responses to the beta applications have been sent out. If you haven't received one, check your junk mail folder.
Bleh, guess I wasn't selected (or it slipped through, I manually delete things from my junk mail folder, since I don't get too much spam).

      
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