Installed and running very well under XP. The reports are really good and the interface too. The hands fro Stars were imported fast. I'm still goofing around with the program, and hope to use it after tonight's session to analyze my play.

Will get back on that.

Just installed Prospector 2 on my MacBook Pro 2.16 GHZ using OS 10.5.6. Installation was a breeze.

All poker histories were found on my computer including hands played with Poker Academy Pro 2. I had a problem when the program was calculating my statistics for 2500 hands. I let it run for around 40 minutes, while displaying "Calculating", until I pressed another button (don't remember which one) and calculation stopped. I checked my results and they looked like they were completed.

Looking forward to testing some more.

We do not support the PT hand history or DB.

Do you still have your original hand histories?

Hello,

Can you tell me the folder that UB has written your hand histories?


You can also manually add the folder by selectiing Add Folder on the import screen.

Can you try creating a new database and doing the same series of steps again please? I cannot recreate this problem. But for 2500 hands, thats way less than the threshold.

This may be a database memory size issue. We are working on a fix for that on Mac that should be in a subsequent release.



Thanks you for your feedback, this is something we will look at.

Thank you for your Hand Histories, we will look at adding them

I was wondering this database memory size. Is it the same what is in the bottom right, "memory usage"? Here are my stats about handhistories and sessions so far:

Stats: 6839 hands, 148 sessions, 1380 players memory usage: 60-65%

Should it be that high? Or is it my old computer's fault?

Is there a limitation of hands in this beta version you can bring in? Or have I misunderstood the "memory usage"-thing?

Otherwise everything has gone well so far. Only DoN's are not supported but it has already been mentioned.

The more players in your database the higher your numbers will be. For tournaments these are the greatest resource cost.

What are your system specs?

If you have more than 768MB of ram you can raise your database memory size. Make it about 1/2 of your system RAM for opitimal performance (1900MB is the maximum). Find out how to do that here: C:\Program Files\Prospector2\data\help\options-startup.html"

Copy and paste that address into your browser address bar



Double or Nothings are 100% supported. You need your Poker Stars summaries, use the request tool to request them from within pokerstars.

After that, put the contents in a TEXT file (not a WORD file) has to be wither Notepad or WordPad.

Save the file as TXT (text not doc).



Can someone verify that Poker Stars does not automatically save tournament summaries into your hand history folder? I thought they used to do that.

They only save the hand history file. and if you close the table to soon, they dont save the last hand when you won/busted, so you need the summary.

edit: what about a summary/report of all tournaments, from all aliases and poker accounts?
edit2: when adding a bonus deposit in the database tab, and then deleting it, the sites net $ does not update. you need to restart.

C:\Program Files\UltimateBet\HandHistory

One question, how come you are installing your own JRE (especially an out of date one with security risks)?

The link here is giving me a 404 error.

Did ou install PA in the default location?

I'm a vegtable, I didn't look at the link as a whole and thought it would be taking me to the PA website helpfiles.

I'll try again when I get home on my computer with better results I'm sure

Being a stand-alone retail application we need to be ready to go "out of the box". Prospector puts the JRE in it's own directory and is the only application that will use it.

Wouldn't it be better to tell people they need to download the JRE? It wouldn't be like yours would be the only application that does.

Finally got around to installing last night and though I'd post a brief review based on my initial impressions:

Install was quick and painless on my dual-core/2gig dual channel XP pro laptop.

For the first import test I fed 50k cash game hands from the same hard drive that Prospector is running on. Then in a separate DB I fed the same 50k hands from an external hard drive. Import from the same drive avg'd 475hps and the external drive avg'd a bit over 600hps. This is extremely fast. The size of the resulting DBs was quite small. Comparing the the same import size DB in Postgres via PT3 - Postgres = aprox 400mb & Prospector = aprox 30mb. That's a huge difference. So far so good. This weekend I'll import a 750k cash game HH and see how P2 fairs and report back.

The interface was clean and user friendly - although I may be biased based on have used PA for several years but overall I knew where to go and what to do right away. I'd like to see the individual components become undockable from the main interface. On most, a user can hit the up/down arrows to expand but allowing them to undock would be far more useful.

The reports and stats are very comprehensive and easy to interpret. I did not quite understand the "Strengths" stat and will have to look at that in detail. I did notice very slight differences in stats between PT3 & P2. For instance, on the same HH my VP$IP had a 1.2% difference. I'm not sure why but I'll be doing some number crunching this weekend to see which stats are more accurate. I'm curious how the overall actions colored graphs were developed and what they are based on. A detailed explanation would be helpful so a user can adjust their game if they so desired. Also it would be helpful to be able to set your own parameters. It would also be helpful to be able to save current runs to compared them over time if a user was actually trying to emulate the given "optimal" sweet spot or a "user defined" and see how their game is changing over time.

P2's number crunching speed is quite fast based on the size of the import. There was an instance where I ran an "against player" report and I was not sure if P2 had froze or was still thinking. Granted, the little swirly circle was still spinning but I could still navigate at the same time so I wasn't quite sure what was happening. A progress bar would be better as well as locking navigation.

Filters are good, well thought out and applied very quickly. Well done.

I would like to see certain stats presented on an overall basis rather than PF, postF, turn etc. For instance, take AA. It would be helpful to see in one stat set things like % of times in won the hand at different streets. This would tell me at a glance if I'm losing $ by scaring off customers by overplaying or fear of suck out or underplaying and letting too many rags in. Did R make me more $? Did RR make me more $? Same with all hands. It would be great to see an overview of 88 to find which method I played a hand made more $. Yes I know I can filter, drill down and replay to find such things but to have a consolidated view, maybe a graph or your colored graph overlay would be the s&!t. Talk about finding leaks and optimizing your play.

So far I'd say P2 is a very useful tool for quickly analyzing your game, quickly finding leaks and translating that info into more $$. Major pluses are currently - extremely fast import - small DB size - good stat set. P2 seems it will be a very good tool. I like that it can be used in an "at a glance" fashion. After a long session or week of play the last thing I want to do is spent several more hours crunching my numbers. With P2 I might be able to cut down time spent on that. Newbies and those not versed in programming stats and reports could see nearly the same benefit as power users which can't be said for many programs. If it were ever combined with a HUD you'd have a monster on your hands.

All that said and like I said - I'm going to hit P2 with a 750k - 1mil HH over the weekend and report back.

Please note that if the functionality is available and I have not yet found it - please disregard.

Have you seen the Hand Type Tab in the Player Stats Window?

If you select preflop in the Stage dropdown, and then check the Use Detailed checkbox, you will see a table with a row for each of the 169 hand types with customizable columns showing different stats. You can also drill into each hand type further by right-clicking a row or multi-selected rows and adding a filter.

Is this what you wanted?

Build 105:
Main page says, "The Results tab is used to examine the hands and statistics in you have imported" but the tab is named "Database". Also note how that sentence is worded.

Would like the option to specify where the database goes, even if it's on another drive. Not sure how big these databases get but it would help for people like me who like to keep their programs and databases separate.

There were about 10 .jar files left in a temporary directory (\e4j1c.tmp_dir854\) following installation.

A HUD adds so much value to your product, if only because you use that every day and poker players don't have much free time. Time is money.

I am looking forward to PAP3.

There is an option under preferences - you can set up your DB anywhere you want.

DBs are very small compared to DBs such as Posrgres. For instance - I did a 600k import that ended up under 200mbs in P2 while the same import in PT3/Postgress was several gigs. I'll be reporting more on this in my second review that I'll be posting later today.

Hi. Just wanted to give my initial feedback on prospector 2 (beta build 105).

As the first bite is with the eye, I have to say that the look is little unappealing. The icons seem a little dated and it doesn't feel like a native windows app. Having said that, the UI is clearly layed out and has been well designed to guide you through the process of analysing your hand histories step-by-step. As well as this, I imagine that most users of prospector are interested in the analysis-part of the software rather than how it looks, so this is a point that can be easily forgiven.

With regards to import speed of hand histories, it seems a little slow. I got 120hps on my pentium M 2.13ghz with 2gb, which seems largely at odds with the other reports of very quick imports. Not sure if this is my data my machine or the software - I need to do some further testing on this.

The game stats button from the stats tab leads to really powerful analysis - such a powerful feature from a small button! I must've spent a couple of hours creating and using filters to understand my data. 'Position' tab is really revealing - I seem to win most of my hands by a long way from the small blind - really counterintuitive! But then also that see,s to where I get the most luck in my hands. The 'Actions' tab is very busy but rammed with information - I thought about this at length but it is hard to imagine how this much data could be presented in a more absorbable way without diluting its powerful message.

The reports tab is very interesting. The report filter dropdown lists should default to what is most prevalent in your data - i.e. tournament vs ring game, as this caught me out at first. Perhaps I'm just stupid, but maybe the filters should default to 'All' first, and allow you to cut down from there. I'm also not sure what the angled lines in the boxes represent in the 'Defending the Blinds' report - assume green good and red bad, but not sure any further than that. Clearly the angle represents greater or lesser something, just not sure what.

On database tab there appears to be a small bug. When entries are selected in the list and then the mouse is hovered over an action on the right, the mouse pointer disappears when the tooltips come up, and then doesn't reappear. You have to move the mouse a long way away to the left from the button to get the pointer back.

So that's my initial feedback. Will continue to play with the new build (108) and update as I get a bit more familiar with it.

Regards,

Joe

Regarding the new beta, should we install over top of the current beta or should we be uninstalling/reinstalling?

mac os x
10.4.11
just started testing and no probs so far. i will keep you posted.

I just installed over and everything went fine. No data loss.