Okay, and how many flop subsets would you say is ideal when working with 32GB?

The biggest you can fit.
It's better to go for simplification of postflop play and bigger subset than smaller subset and more complicated postflop play (don't use multiple bet sizes in postflop play when solving for preflop, eliminate actions which are never taken and has no impact on overall EV etc.)

Is this the case for SBvBU 3b spots also? Where ranges would be like 15-20% vs 40-50%? And how long would this sim take about to run on a i7 6700k 4.00ghz?

Yes altough with 40%-50% you want 32GB most likely. You can set-up those trees and estimate their size in basic/pro version as well.

Is it possible to upgrade from basic version to pro?

Yes, the upgrade is listed here:
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/produ...to-pro-upgrade

Hi, why does piosolver take strategies that are lower ev than an alternative? For example I have a river sim where qs5d (air in this sim) is played as a mixed bet/check. Checking is close to 0EV and betting is negative ev and yet pio still chooses to bet sometimes. My understanding of theory was that for a hand to be a mixed strategy, both actions must be equal in terms of EV. Appreciate any help

Hi,

I tried to install piosolver to a new computer. The window for the license popped up but disappeared after 10 seconds or so before i could put in the key.

When I start it now it says "Failed to connect: Acess denied". Same error comes up when i try connecting the solver manually afterwards.

This happens because the solution isn't perfect equilibrium. The closer to 0 exploitability you get the more rare the situation is going to be. For river cases alone you should be easily able to solve to 0.05% of the pot (or even better) and then it will be very close already.

Access denied is a Windows error, not Pio error. Make sure that you followed the installation process exactly using the updater and everything is in C:\PioSOLVER, not on desktop, temp, sync etc. If you downloaded from the link manually make sure you have unpacked all the files.

Hi!
I would like the "strategy view" option to range explorer.
Also "Q high" and "J high" too if it is possible.

How can i find out how to play with Q high hands now? Is there any method to do this?

This is often requested and already on the to-do.

Ok, we will see, the problem with those is that you don't want too many categories as then they take all the screen real estate. We will think about designing it in a way that it's not too clunky.

Yes, although it requires selecting Q-high hands manually, like that:
http://imgur.com/a/Z2Wmx

You can see overall frequencies for any selected sub-range this way.

Hi!
I want to buy Pio Pro version to use on my desktop and notebook. But I want to buy new desktop in few month. So could I reassign my pio desktop key to a new one then?

Yes, you can move activations from computer to computer within reasonable limits (and without any limits for edge version). The default number of deactivations allowed is 6 but we have no problem extending it if needed.
Deactivation process is easy and you can do it yourself. If you lose access to the computer however it's still not a problem as you can always email us and we can reset for you remotely.

Hi Punter11235,

I had a couple questions about writing scripts for piosolver:

1. If I had a list of ranges in piosolver format, would it be possible to write a script to reference and edit specific ranges in a tree, entering the ranges from the list, and then locking the ranges?
2. Is it possible to write a script to copy the strategy csv files for a given street of action? (e.g. copying P1 and P2 strategies for all turn cards at all decision nodes on a flop of 8c3c2d to a series of csv files rather than manually copying one by one).

Thanks

Excuse me guys, it's unreal hard to use search for no native speakers.
Maybe it's just a common question but please help me.
Before solving i faced such problem too often, btw i have piosolver basic.
I can not understand which memory this error message is talking about.
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>>1. If I had a list of ranges in piosolver format, would it be possible to write a script to reference and edit specific ranges in a tree, entering the ranges from the list, and then locking the ranges?

Yes, it is possible although it's not the most convenient thing. You would need to convert the range to long pio format (the one used in text interface, so 1326 numbers in a row, this can be done in range selector) and then call set_strategy command (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...68544248083387)

My assessment is that it requires at least some experience in programming/simple scripting to get done as it's an advanced use case.

The reason we don't have it in GUI is that every flop is different so locking the same range on various flops usually makes very little sense (you would need a new range for every flop and some way to generate it which we don't currently have).

>>2. Is it possible to write a script to copy the strategy csv files for a given street of action?

This isn't possible. You would need to get results in Pio API format and then translate them to csv file (this is what the viewer does internally). This is a task that requires quite a bit of programming.

It's about RAM. It looks like you are trying to build a humongous tree (86gb would be something like 8 bet sizes with several raise sizes everywhere) but you only have ~4GB of RAM.

hey punter, any ideea when pio2.0 will be out?

If you own 1.9 will you have to pay for upgrade? If so how much?
I just bought 1.9

I might have a superstupid question. But ill fire anyways.

Say for example we play headsup and we are IP and know for sure that OOP will probe way too much on the turn vs checkback. Is it then possible to nodelock OOP's turn probing strategy to get the IP flop strategy to change?

There are no official plans/timeline for that at this point.

Our business model is to sell lifetime licenses for the software that means that at some point we either stop working on it or release 2.0 version and charge for upgrades. This is the trade-off of not having pay-per-month model. Our business model is similar to selling video games, notice that most of them don't provide significant free upgrade and we do. It's natural that we can't do that forever (as that would mean having a developer to work for you forever for 500$ which is not reasonable). You are already buying several developer/years worth of software at this point.

This means that some people will be luckier than others when it comes to timing but we will try to make it right as much as possible if/when 2.0 is released. At this point I can't really say much about 2.0 or if/when it ever comes. It's not announced by us so any information you might have heard about it is pure made-up speculation.

You can node-lock on the turn but the problem is that you would need to node-lock on all the turns to get correct results on the flop. This is too much work at this point. It would be nice to have a generic way to lower frequencies of some actions on all runouts but it's not available at this point.

But i have 8GD RAM on my pc. And yes it was a spot 80bb effective BvsB super wide ranges. In fact i can solve this spot only in 30bb eff with 2 different bet sizes and without donk bets.
So is it problem only in my PC RAM or i'm allowed to use only 4GB RAM because of cheap version of piosolver?

2 bet sizes everywhere is still a sizeable tree, so that you can solve it under 8GB of RAM is quite nice. Feel free to share the config btw (copy to clipboard button and then paste to pastebin.com and link) so I can see if there isn't something wrong with the configuration which makes the tree too big.

PioSOLVER doesn't have any restrictions when it comes to amount of RAM it can use. If you have 8GB, 64GB, 256GB or 2TB of RAM, it will use all of it.
The problem is likely that out of your 8GB most is taken by other programs (like internet browser with many tabs, database etc.) you can look into task manager, sort via RAM usage and see what is using it. Another possibility is that you are using limited version of Windows although I am not sure if there is anything which limits the RAM to 4GB (there are certainly versions which limit it to 8GB though like home basic or something like that).

sry, i was asking about the next update...maybe 1.9.3?... didnt realise that 2.0 will mean a lot more then a simple update.

It's likely to be early in 2017 but we don't really like making timelines, announcing ETAs as that doesn't help with anything.

can I pay with neteller or ps?