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Old 08-02-2016, 08:50 AM   #1351
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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thanks for your always prompt answers, my plan was to solve just to have the gto ranges for different sizes for OR-c/f/3b-c/f/4b-c/f for up to 200bb.
It won't fit under 32GB. 40 flops (which isn't ideal either) with 100bb is doable under 32GB if you insert simplistic postflop play but that's about it. No chance for 200bb.

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Then, having the ranges, run postflop solution with 100 flops for specific ranges matchup.
That's in general a good plan for using preflop ranges.

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If not, can you give me a quote for running such calcs on your servers?
We don't solve things for money but our friend runs PioCloud service, here:
http://piocloud.weebly.com/

Feel free to contact him and ask for details.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:19 PM   #1352
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

I can no longer seem to find pioupdater to update to latest version. Where can I download this from?
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:23 PM   #1353
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I can no longer seem to find pioupdater to update to latest version. Where can I download this from?
From here:
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/pages/quick-start-guide

direct link:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...90236514835682

it was an oversight from me not to put it in the distribution itself but starting from this version it will be in your Pio folder.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:54 AM   #1354
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

I downloaded piocloud's samples but I can't load them to view in Basic version. What am I not understanding? How do I load and view the samples in preflop viewer?

Message is: Failed to load file, error: load tree couldn't open ... file doesn't exist or isn't a valid save
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:40 AM   #1355
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I downloaded piocloud's samples but I can't load them to view in Basic version. What am I not understanding? How do I load and view the samples in preflop viewer?
You need to connect to the preflop browser:

1)Solver->Connect in the top menu
2)choose preflop-browser.exe

You only need to do it once, the viewer will switch between preflop browser and postflop solver automatically as needed when you are building trees or loading postflop saves.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:06 AM   #1356
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

When I load an old tree into Browser, I'd like to be able to copy the config file from it to paste and load and tweak the tree in the Tree Building area. Is this an option?

I looked through the thread and didn't find anything so I think I must be missing a simple option or step. Thanks.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:40 AM   #1357
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Just had an idea and wondered if you had considered it.

Right now initial strategies are always to choose all options equally likely. If you could choose the initial strategy, however, seems like that could speed up the solving process significantly in some cases. I'm thinking for preflop especially, when, for example, you've already calculated the GTO strat at a certain stack depth but you know an opponent plays a certain way and want to see how the strat will change to exploit their leak with combo locking. But many hands will play the same way as they did initially. For example, 10BB deep, A2o will probably be an open shove no matter what. Seems like "telling that to the solver" would reduce the number of required iterations significantly.
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Old 08-03-2016, 12:52 PM   #1358
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Great idea but
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many hands will play the same way as they did initially.
How can you tell pio this,
Lock all hands of EV of Openshove GTO > x ?

And EV of open push changes, even it still a push,
Pio needs to know these changes in order to calculate the other hands i think, and the MES etc

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Old 08-03-2016, 01:47 PM   #1359
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

How to make piosolver run multiple flop/boards so I don't have to do one by one?
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:40 PM   #1360
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Hey, when I try to update through PioSolver Updater it says:

"Checking for new versions
Downloading information about available versions.
Extract directory/
Extract fileversion.txt
Comparing with current version.
New version found. Preparing for update.
Downloading the update...
Download complete.
Extracting files.
Extract directory/
Extract fileversion.txt
Update FAILED
ERROR:
The directory name is invalid."

Never had that kind of problem in previous versions. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:43 PM   #1361
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Right now initial strategies are always to choose all options equally likely. If you could choose the initial strategy, however, seems like that could speed up the solving process significantly in some cases.
This is a good idea but it's not that easy to get significant speed-ups from it. I already tried some naive approaches and didn't get anything. This is definitely something we will be experimenting with in the future.

The problem is that it seems it's way more difficult to get exact balance than ballpark solution and current algorithm doesn't waste that much time to get to something semi-decent.

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How to make piosolver run multiple flop/boards so I don't have to do one by one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (question number 6)

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Never had that kind of problem in previous versions. Any suggestions?
Look at the desitnation folder in the updater. Maybe you deleted it by accident (it looks like it).
Usually it's C:\PioSOLVER (if you didn't change anything)
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:42 PM   #1362
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Look at the desitnation folder in the updater. Maybe you deleted it by accident (it looks like it).
Usually it's C:\PioSOLVER (if you didn't change anything)

Nope, destination folder is the same. I checked it again. I have no clue why It won't let me update, keep saying that "directory name is invalid". Any other way maybe?
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:14 PM   #1363
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Can you make a screenshot from the updater before clicking "check for updates"?
As for a temporary workaround you may just use download link directly and unpack it somewhere.
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Old 08-04-2016, 12:17 AM   #1364
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Sorry if this has already been answered but I can't seem to find it:

Is there an easy way to create a preflop hand order txt file from a preflop EV result?
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:33 AM   #1365
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Is there an easy way to create a preflop hand order txt file from a preflop EV result?
Yes, run an aggregation report in the root node and the orders will be there (for both players). See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (question number 7)
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:46 AM   #1366
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

hey, just wanted to make sure I am using this right.

I am trying to emulate a COvsBB situation single raise spot on Q64ss





I am selecting a 70% pot cbet size with a c/r of 50% pot size.

Does this result look right? Its kinda of weird that CO is only cbetting 47% of his AQo combos and only have a 35% cbet when checked to?
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:47 AM   #1367
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Hm, from my computer the image aint showing. But if you right click and open it in a new tab it will bring you to the imgur image.
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:14 AM   #1368
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hey, just wanted to make sure I am using this right.
If you would like to get a comment on your config it's the best to attach the full config. To do that:

1)enter the config
2)click "copy to clipboard" button
3)paste to http://pastebin.com/
4)link here (or alternatively just paste here in [code] tags so it isn't a screen long wall of text)

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Does this result look right? Its kinda of weird that CO is only cbetting 47% of his AQo combos and only have a 35% cbet when checked to?
There is nothing inherently suspicious about it but one can only say if the whole config is provided.
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:44 AM   #1369
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Can you make a screenshot from the updater before clicking "check for updates"?
As for a temporary workaround you may just use download link directly and unpack it somewhere.


When I download through that link in the updater, I get only one .txt file to unpack?
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:53 AM   #1370
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Should I got any mail with dropbox link, after latest update?
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:54 AM   #1371
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This is not your personal dropbox link, maybe you copy-pasted it incorrectly or I made a mistake when sending an email to you. Please email us at support@piosolver.com with some info so we can find your license (key is the best, registered email is ok) and I will take a look.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:01 AM   #1372
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Ok, already sent.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:04 AM   #1373
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Solved. You are one of the early customers and the links changed around July 2015
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:25 AM   #1374
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Update finished! I knew, I still know how to update it Let me know next time you change the links Thanks
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:25 AM   #1375
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If you would like to get a comment on your config it's the best to attach the full config.
http://pastebin.com/qHYafFzs
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