Tried testing jesolver Qs Jh 2h flop with the free version of Piosolver but it's not working, can you confirm if can be used with the free version or I need a license?

You can use free version of the viewer to solve turn/river cases. You need a commercial version to solve flop cases.

Can I import saved trees to a free PIO version? I had made them with a full version.
Thanks.

This is not possible for two reasons:

1)the free version is significantly older than the current solver (it's based on 1.5 version while we are at 1.8 now); Pio saves are backward compatible (newer version can read the older version saves) but not forward compatible (they change and the older version won't be able to read the newer saves)

2)to load flop cases you need a full postflop solver as saves only contain very little information and most of it is recalculated on the fly when browsing;

1)might go away if/when we update a free version at some point.

Two questions:

1) 100 chips = 1bb? (which I can specify)
2) PIOsolver uses ~80-92% of the CPU, which is not enough for the CPU turbo boost to kick in in full (in my case, at least). It seems like turbo kicks in at around 93%. Is there a way to make PIO request more CPU resources? or maybe you have an idea how to make intel turbo boost to kick in sooner? I have xeon E52690v4, and turbo makes a lot of difference

Chips are just chips you can make cases for 50/100 game, 1/2 game, 2/4 game. There is no requirement that 100chips = 1bb but it's wise to not use stakes lowet than 2/4 because of bet rounding issues (PioSOLVER doesn't allow fractions in bet sizes). It's the best to do at least 5/10 and if you play lower stakes you can just multiply by 10 or 100.

Isn't turbo boost temporary anyway? I don't know much about it, it's better to ask some hardware guys (or google some hardware forum). Pio scales almost linearly right now at least up to 24 cores (and it's still very decent after that) but I don't intend adding running in circles anytime soon to make it 100%

You can try setting number of threads to something higher than you logical core amount though (so in case of your CPU to say 20). You can find those settings in Tools->Configuration->number of threads (0 is default given by the operating system).

The reason I'm asking for chips is to set the rake amount. So what should the amount be if max rake is $3 and stakes are 5-10?

if you want chips = dollars then set 5% and 3 chips cap.
If you want chips = cents then set 5% and 300 chips cap but make sure to set starting pot as 6500 instead of 65 (for example for BTN open to 3bb and BB call).

I'm trying to run some preflop spots but when I click on "Select flop subset" it just brings me to the normal piosolver folder and I don't have the folder where the flop subsets are, and I can't build trees without them. I updated to 1.8.2 a few days ago.

There is "preflop_subsets" folder delivered along with the edge license.
If you didn't get it with the updater then:

1)run it again with "force update" checkbox ticked
2)contact us at support@piosolver.com providing your key so I can check what's wrong

hi punter, one small feature request here, in the preflop charts how can I get the same color tones that Pio uses for bets where the darker color is used for the bigger bets? only the 3 basic "red" "green" and "blue" are there, I tried making the colors myself but I'm just not as capable, also in the charts the colors are shown in a specific order and that order can not be changed, so for example if after making a chart I decide I want to add another color layer to the ranges and wanted that color to be shown uptop I can't do that unless I go and manually change all the colors one by one, so I think if you could make the color panels "movable" so I can drag them and drop them in any order I like it would be quite handy for modifying the charts.

and there is a small bug when I use many bet sizings in the actions list in the main browser window I'll need to scroll down to see them all, but at the moment I remove my finger from the mouse scroll the list will jump back to the top so many times I need to be the scrolling multiple times and be faster than the scroll jumping back to the top at selecting the action I want to display, could you please check on that?

https://gyazo.com/306f1d77e098a063bf31136f71698a9e

thanks in advance!

Hi,

I am new to Pio and I'm trying to run a script. I have watched the FAQ and I'm having an issue.

After generating the flops (I am missing the Kuba flops text files, how do I get these?), generating the script, then selecting run script, nothing happens.

The .exe window pops up with the text:

PioSOlver-basic 1.8.2 ...
(c) Piotr ...
registered to (my email)

Then nothing after this, it's not executing the commands like in the FAQ video.

Thanks for the help, really enjoy the program.

This will be fixed in the next release. Rest of your post is noted, sorry for not commenting on it before.

It looks like you have a basic version. Scripts are one of a very few differences between this version and a pro version.

Hi! I'm sorry for asking this because I'm sure someone else has asked this already, but can I switch the licenses between my computers? I have basic version and intending to switch it to my laptop from my pc.

Thanks.

PioSOLVER licenses aren't intended as floating licenses but you can change them between your computers/laptops within reasonable bounds (for travelling/changing a computer etc. etc.). The default number of allowed deactivation is 6 which we are happy to extend. The intent is to have 1 activation = 1 computer but to allow occasional moving. This doesn't apply to an edge version which can be move around as much as needed (because it's often used on cloud/dedicated servers etc.).

The way to deactivate the license is described here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (question number 3).

Hi. How big are fixed limit trees with wide ranges and a cap of 3 in terms of RAM? Would it be possible to build them on laptop with 16 GB of RAM (assuming that system takes up around 2-3 GB)?

Also, what are recommended computer specifications, if I want to solve any fixed limit tree with no constraints in cap size or range sizes?

I checked on the 1.8 postflop solver.

full range vs full range on the flop:

4-cap with donkbets everywhere: 14.5G
4-cap without donkbets on the turn: 11.5G
4-cap without donkbets: 9G
4-cap without donkbets and flop bet: 5GB

for 3-cap it was 6.6G, 5.4G, 4.2G and 2.3G respectively

Those numbers are for rainbow unpaired boards (the biggest ones). For suited/paired boards the trees are significantly smaller.

The thing with the solver is that the faster CPU you have the faster it is so there isn't really "recommended hardware".
If you are building a desktop PC on a sane budget then 5820k is currently the best CPU on the market. If the budget is not sane then sky is the limit

Thanks

Hello punter!

I am evaluating about purchasing the program and would like some clarification. I have no experience with these complex calculators.

1) The settings of my notebook support calculations (although take longer)?
i5 33237U 1,80GHZ 1,80GHZ
6GB RAM
HD 250GB SATA

2) I followed some topics and I saw a comment her about the possible version 2.0. There is some speculation when it will be available?
I fear being harmed by purchasing a program that will be exceeded in 2 or 3 months.

Thank you in advance

While 6GB of RAM should be enough for trees even with 2 bet sizes at some points (although not with 2 sizes everywhere) the CPU is too slow. It's only dual core at 1.8Ghz. I think you need a modern quad core CPU to have fun with the program. One more thing is that usually laptops equipped with CPUs like yours aren't really suited for running heavy duty calculations for extended time.

That is a general problem with the business model of selling stand alone programs instead of subscription. At some point if the we want to continue to work on the product and there is demand then we need to release 2.0 version. The timing of this depends on:

1)how the sales are going
2)how much demand we think there is for further work on the project

What I can say for now is that it won't happen in 2-3 months, that there will be discounts for owners of previous version and that we will try minimize the impact of "being harmed". Unfortunately it's not possible to avoid completely (the same way people who bought iPad 2 felt about iPad 3 etc.). For now our customer base is growing steadily so there is not much need for us to think about 2.0 yet.

Hi punter!

I'm also considering purchasing your product, but I would like to have a bit more information.

Regarding this remark, do you think my laptop ,with 8 GB RAM and AMD Quad-Core Processor A4-5000 (with Radeon HD graphics) 1.5 GHz would be better? It's a quad processor, but only 1,5 ghz ..
I don't know a lot about all these computer properties so I have no idea whether this is actually better or not.

And second, why does the basic version has a limitation of only 4 threads, while the pro has a limitation of 12 ? (would it be better for me to buy the basic version then? )

And one last question, how long do you think it'd take to solve a postflop tree with my laptop on average (with for example 20% range vs 50% range).

AMD CPUs are very slow for the purpose of the solver. I am not commenting on the newest ones as I haven't tested them but everything released before is just too slow. Even hexa cores usually are 3-4x slower than Intel i5's.

Actually basic verison is compiled to work with 6 threads right now. Why? We wanted to make a cheaper product available without taking away the core functionality so the idea is that if you want to use it on more powerful hardware and get full benefits (hexa core i7s) then you need the pro version.

Too long. I just don't recommend running it on laptops not made for long calculations. There are additional risks of it overheating etc. While it's going to work you will just not have fun running it.

FWIW I run pio on a laptop with a very slow processor (i3-3110m). It's slow, for sure, but I'm happy enough that I'm not dashing out to buy a new one (though I mostly use it through running scripts on particular preflop spots and look through results in the morning - when I use it for post-session review I usually do something else while I'm waiting).

I examined a board of Jd 3s 6h 9c with node locking on letting oop player bet:
AK, AQ, QQ+, 99, 66, 33, AJ, QTs, J9s and pio solver counts 96 combos. Shouldnt it be 81 because of card removal?