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11-16-2015 , 01:32 PM
hey, i just format my computer, and my registration key doenst work when i reinstall PIOsolver, anyone can help me?
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11-16-2015 , 02:33 PM
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Hi, punter11235!
What are the expected release date of preflop-solver?
I don't like giving ETAs are those doesn't benefit either me nor the customers by creating expectations but it's likely to be released in some form this month or somewhere in the beginning of December.

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hey, i just format my computer, and my registration key doenst work when i reinstall PIOsolver, anyone can help me?
Please send an email to support@piosolver.com with your email and/or regkey and I will reset the key for you.
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11-16-2015 , 08:42 PM
Can you add me to your skype group? Can't sent you pm
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11-17-2015 , 05:01 AM
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Can you add me to your skype group? Can't sent you pm
I can't add you manually (the group is over 300 ppl limit) but if you send us an email to support@piosolver.com you will get a link to join the group.
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11-17-2015 , 07:49 AM
edit. nvm brainfart

Last edited by Calm Down; 11-17-2015 at 08:12 AM.
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11-17-2015 , 09:24 AM
how do i reset my licences? i'm planning on buying a laptop just for pio but have already used my two licences on 2 computers
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11-17-2015 , 12:01 PM
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how do i reset my licences? i'm planning on buying a laptop just for pio but have already used my two licences on 2 computers
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/pages/faq (point 5).
If it doesn't work for you for w/e reason send us and email with your email/key.

As to computers just for the solver if the logistics allow for that go for the desktop - it's cheaper, faster and easier to upgrade in the future.
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11-18-2015 , 03:22 AM
In range explorer "Nothing" does count draws, it would be nice if it doesnt count them, not even a gutshot (you can select the draws you want independently)
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11-18-2015 , 04:23 AM
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In range explorer "Nothing" does count draws, it would be nice if it doesnt count them, not even a gutshot (you can select the draws you want independently)
Yes, as of right now now made hands and draws are separate categories and "nothing" is just a made hand category (worse than king high).
It is improved in the dev version already - you will be able to choose any/all so "nothing" + "no draw" will produce no made hand/no draw.
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11-19-2015 , 12:59 PM
can I buy it with skrill?
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11-19-2015 , 11:50 PM
Thanks for great support. Can i use virtual memory to build the tree? (i dont care how long it takes)
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11-20-2015 , 04:19 AM
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Can i use virtual memory to build the tree?
Yes.
Using the GUI:

1)Tools->Solver->arbitrary command
2)"ignore_mem_check on" (without quotes)
3)build a tree

In scripts:
Put "ignore_mem_check on" at the top of the script.

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(i dont care how long it takes)
That remains to be seen
The problem is not so much in building it but then at every iteration part of it will be swapped in and swapped out for guaranteed abysmal performance.
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11-22-2015 , 02:49 AM
if i upgrade to pro, will i be able to set it up to run multiple sims while i sleep?
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11-22-2015 , 05:31 AM
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if i upgrade to pro, will i be able to set it up to run multiple sims while i sleep?
Yes, that's one of the differences between basic and pro versions.
It's quite straightforward to do as well, see this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (question number 6, link in the video description)
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11-24-2015 , 02:50 PM
Hello,

There will be a short break in support/sending new licenses starting tomorrow about 2pm (CET) and lasting about 24 to 36 hours. The reason for that is me undergoing a minor medical procedure.
The Skype group works as usual. Feel free to post questions here as well so they can be answered by other people.

Everything should be back to normal on Friday.
Thanks for you patience!
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11-27-2015 , 03:49 AM
Any chance of a black friday sale?
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11-27-2015 , 04:43 AM
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Any chance of a black friday sale?
As I come from a culture which doesn't celebrate Black Friday I've just missed it
It's likely we have some kind of Christmas sales though.
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11-27-2015 , 05:17 AM
Haha, okay, was worth a try. Let me know when the Christmas sale is on please
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11-29-2015 , 02:54 PM
hey, why does my offsuit hands not show the mixing %? it's just blank, please let me know as this isn't good for me, ty
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11-29-2015 , 03:59 PM
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hey, why does my offsuit hands not show the mixing %? it's just blank, please let me know as this isn't good for me, ty
you're going to need to include a screenshot (at least) of the problem.
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11-29-2015 , 05:20 PM
Hi, punter11235

What are EV values in EV colum in handsEV.csv?

1) Why all of them have positive values?

Even if I solve 50% IP vs 100% OOP on 185 flops subset (from your blog ), all hands in 100% ranges have EV > 0

http://prntscr.com/98g3s9

Doesn't fell right. It would mean that we have to defence big blind with anytwo.

2) I've solved a lot of ranges for 185 flops subsets. Almost always ipPreflopOrder and oopPreflopOrder hands stay in the same order. There're only small deviations in EV sequences.

This one actually feels truthfull. But then it looks like we should prefer 3bet and call 3bets with KTo, QTo, K9s instead of A5s,T9s, 98s.

So, anyway, where're any negative EV values? How it's possible that each hand in both ranges (IP and OOP) always has positive EV in HandsEV.crv?
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11-29-2015 , 06:58 PM
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What are EV values in EV colum in handsEV.csv?
EV = how much you make on average in the hand.

There are two ways of expressing EV: absolute one and relative one. Absolute one means how much you make from the beginning of the hand (so calling a flop for 100$ and then folding produces -100$). Relative one means folding is always 0$ regardles how much you invested before.

1) Why all of them have positive values?

There is some money in the pot from preflop. If you are running the aggregation at the beginning of the tree every hand will be +EV as they could easily fold and guarantee being at 0$. That proves that in GTO every hand is at least 0$ and usually at least slightly above. That of course only holds if:

-you run it at the beginning of the tree and/or:
-you use relative EVs

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Doesn't fell right. It would mean that we have to defence big blind with anytwo.
It wouldn't because you invested some preflop.
For example if the blinds are 5$/10$ we are playing HU and a raise is to 30$ then you will run a postflop case with 60$ in the pot (raise and a call). That means that every hand below 20$ in EV is -EV defense.

>>This one actually feels truthfull. But then it looks like we should prefer 3bet and call 3bets with KTo, QTo, K9s instead of A5s,T9s, 98s.

This depends on ranges you've used. I got different results with ranges I've used as you can see in one of the attached preflop orders.

>>So, anyway, where're any negative EV values?

Hopefully it already makes sense why they aren't there. -EV value means it's not GTO. Slightly -EV is possible because the solutions are not perfect. You will also see -EV values if you run the aggregation later in the tree (as the reports use absolute values).
You would also see absolute -EV values postflop if the tree started preflop but it doesn't, the solver is not aware what happened preflop and how the money ended up in the pot (it would have to guess for examples if 65$ in the pot came from 32.5$ raise and a call HU or from 30$ raise, SB folding and BB calling).
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11-29-2015 , 10:59 PM
Hello,

If we are solving a spot using just small saves or microsaves options will EV/Equity realisation column be different to the time when we are solving same spot but with rivers? If yes, how different?

Like, if we are doing "small saves" calc, does it mean it only accounts EV and EQ realisation for flop and turn play? And river play could change it considerably?
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11-30-2015 , 06:35 AM
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If we are solving a spot using just small saves or microsaves options will EV/Equity realisation column be different to the time when we are solving same spot but with rivers? If yes, how different?
They will be exactly the same.

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Like, if we are doing "small saves" calc, does it mean it only accounts EV and EQ realisation for flop and turn play? And river play could change it considerably?
The way it's done is that EVs on the flops (and turns in case of small saves) are cached before the rivers are forgotten so they are the very same numbers the full tree produced.
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11-30-2015 , 08:45 PM
I've downloaded and extracted the free version but can't seem to get it to run. the piosolverfree app file just takes me to a command prompt type box and the poiviewerfree shows nothing and windows asks to find a solution on the web...what am I doing wrong?
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