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03-30-2019 , 06:44 PM
What effect does RAM speed have?
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03-31-2019 , 02:26 AM
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When I open this aggregation report the numbers in the report do not coincide with the numbers I see in the solve. The IP EV in the solve is 71.3 but the IP EV in the aggregation report is 32.3.
I think the numbers in the report are alway given in "global EV" that is the EV starting from the beginning of the hand. For example if you call 40 on the flop and then fold on the turn the global EV of that action is -40 (as you lost 40 total).
The viewer (by default at least) translates those values to "local EV" that is EV in comparison to fold at a given point. This is what most people are more used to seeing.
Let me know if that clears things up. I think we should have an option to choose the way EVs are written in the reports but honestly I haven't tested the functionality fo quite a long time now. I will check what the status of that feature is.

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What effect does RAM speed have?
It's hard to benchmark so I can't be sure but I remember a few tests from many years ago and it had very little effect.
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03-31-2019 , 07:27 PM
Hey Punter,

every time I go to save a tree I get this error:

https://gyazo.com/b18e54bbb8feb5409e4c48e8cce9b4b1


any ideas on a solution?
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03-31-2019 , 07:30 PM
If I have multiple trees calculating at the same time, what determies how much CPU resources are dedicated to each tree? Is it the order in which the trees began running, the size of the trees, etc?

Is there a way to force PIO to focus on certain trees and dedicate more CPU resources to those trees?

Is there a limit (besides RAM) to the number of instances of PIO I can have open at one time, or the number of trees I can simultaneously calculate.
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03-31-2019 , 08:07 PM
In this situation, why Piosolver recommends raise and calling with 6s6c, 6h6c, if it is EV-?

And why Pioaolver recommend raise with 6s6h, 6s6d, 6h6d if the call is more ev +?

https://gyazo.com/a3e41bed1d1a1ffc8af86a01697209ef
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04-01-2019 , 03:17 AM
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every time I go to save a tree I get this error:

https://gyazo.com/b18e54bbb8feb5409e4c48e8cce9b4b1


any ideas on a solution?
Yes, it looks like you are using the newest PioViewer with the older version of the solver. Here is what to do:

1)Run the updater to make sure all the files are up to date
2)In the viewer look at the bottom where it says: "connected to..."
3)If the version is different than 1.10.19 go to Solver->Connect and choose PioSOLVER-pro (or edge/basic depending on the version).

It should happen automatically but sometimes the updating process gets interrupted or something else unexpected happens and it doesn't. Once you are connected to the newest solver it should work without problems.
Test it quickly without solving (just build a tree and try to save it) so you don't waste any more time.

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If I have multiple trees calculating at the same time, what determies how much CPU resources are dedicated to each tree? Is it the order in which the trees began running, the size of the trees, etc?
If you are running a script then they are solved one by one. If you are running multiple instances of the solver then build in operating system scheduler decides and there is nothing solver instances can do about it (they don't even know the other one is running at the same time).

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Is there a way to force PIO to focus on certain trees and dedicate more CPU resources to those trees?
There is nothing you can do about it. The instances are independent with the exception of PioViewer settings file although you can make them fully indepdendent by copying Pio instalation folder and running every instance from another location. You can try reducing number of threads some of the instances are allowed to use (Tools->Configuration->Behavior) but be careful with it if you start all your Pio instances from the same folder as they use the same settings file.
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Is there a limit (besides RAM) to the number of instances of PIO I can have open at one time, or the number of trees I can simultaneously calculate.
Nothing we are aware of.


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In this situation, why Piosolver recommends raise and calling with 6s6c, 6h6c, if it is EV-?

And why Pioaolver recommend raise with 6s6h, 6s6d, 6h6d if the call is more ev +?

https://gyazo.com/a3e41bed1d1a1ffc8af86a01697209ef
The EV is calculated against current strategy of the opponent which is not perfect equilibrium yet. That's why there might situations where EV at a given time is slightly negative for a chosen action. The better accuracy you reach the smaller those disrepances are going to be.
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04-01-2019 , 03:39 AM
Hi, licenses server down?

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04-01-2019 , 03:58 AM
I pulled out some hdd yesterday and now it give me code d

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04-01-2019 , 06:00 AM
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I pulled out some hdd yesterday and now it give me code d

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Its working never mind

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04-01-2019 , 04:34 PM
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My range explorer seems messed up. It always has 100% ranges for both players with a random flop that's different from my tree. I recently installed and used some free version of piosolver in addition to my pro version if that might have anything to do with it.
Ended up completely wiping all piosolver related things from my computer, reinstalling(which was smooth af, was worried about a hassle with the registration or whatnot) and then it wouldn't run anymore without me updating my .net framework. Issue is fixed after doing these things.

I assume support is still analyzing the screenshots I sent a week ago as I haven't received a response.
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04-01-2019 , 09:44 PM
Is it possible to save the range in a different way, if so, how to do it?
This is the standard.https://prnt.sc/n665gl
I want so.https://prnt.sc/n665mm
Thank you.
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04-02-2019 , 04:32 AM
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I assume support is still analyzing the screenshots I sent a week ago as I haven't received a response.
We're answering all emails usually within 24 hours. Can you pm your email address so I can check if it was lost somehow?
The issue is with Net Framework indeed (or an older Pio version). It should be gone if you are using the newest version.

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Is it possible to save the range in a different way, if so, how to do it?
This is the standard.https://prnt.sc/n665gl
I want so.https://prnt.sc/n665mm
This is the way the range is displayed not saved.
I don't think you can get the 2nd way at the moment. We have 2 ways to display strategies/EVs this way (with either smaller rectangles in the center or filling the bottom part) but not going sideways.
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04-02-2019 , 04:50 AM
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Is it possible to save the range in a different way, if so, how to do it?
This is the standard.https://prnt.sc/n665gl
I want so.https://prnt.sc/n665mm
This is the way the range is displayed not saved.
I don't think you can get the 2nd way at the moment. We have 2 ways to display strategies/EVs this way (with either smaller rectangles in the center or filling the bottom part) but not going sideways.

instead of%, is it possible to make the bar look horizontal if not vertical? And please tell me how.
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04-02-2019 , 10:59 AM
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instead of%, is it possible to make the bar look horizontal if not vertical? And please tell me how.
Not possible right now in the range selector but we are likely to add it in the near future.
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04-02-2019 , 02:42 PM
it'll be cool ,thank you.
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04-02-2019 , 04:31 PM
https://prnt.sc/n6lme6
There is an action out of position, although now there should be an action in position. https://prnt.sc/n6ln9y
After the flop, everything is ok.https://prnt.sc/n6lnyl
Where is the error in the description or in what range is valid in the position or without?
The second is why there is no fold action, but only a raise 140?
Very important questions that do not give me an understanding that we consider preflop.
Thank you.
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04-02-2019 , 05:03 PM
Hey guys, I just bought Pio Solver basic and I have problem

https://i.imgur.com/5elgRdl.png
My left table looks like this, all black no calculations are showed..

https://i.imgur.com/Br0C5AC.png
and it should be like this as I can see from youtube

Why i don't see it properly, what should I do?
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04-02-2019 , 07:33 PM
I figured out what ranges are used when I clicked on a raise. https://prnt.sc/n6ngcf
And How to make that was fold,when changed the value here https://prnt.sc/n6nqou
And the piosolver has been updated, and now it is displayed correctly. There are no questions. Thanks. https://prnt.sc/n6nrgr
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04-03-2019 , 01:45 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/5elgRdl.png
My left table looks like this, all black no calculations are showed..
Try making the window bigger. The numbers and letters appear once there is enough space for minimum size font to fit.
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04-03-2019 , 03:04 AM
Hello. Can we retrieve all information of the browser via text user interface? Especially I'd like to get combos% from command line interface. I was thinking calg_global_freq provided it (combos% = node of calq_global_freq / parent node of calq_global_freq) but it seemed not to same value with combo% in the browser.
How should we get such information via text user interface?
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04-03-2019 , 08:24 AM
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Can we retrieve all information of the browser via text user interface?
Yes, PioViewer uses the very same text interface you have access to.

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Especially I'd like to get combos% from command line interface.
use show_range command and add weights up. You may need to filter dead hands if you are using it in root.

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I was thinking calg_global_freq provided it
It shows overall probability of reaching that line which is different than number of combos because of card removal effect. Show_range shows the range which isn't influenced by opponent's hands.
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04-03-2019 , 09:48 AM
Hi there I have two questions
1. Is it possible (or even worth it) to be able to solve only for few turns/rivers instead of whole game after flop. Basically I would like to be able to pick some turns+rivers and node lock them and see how my flop/turn strategy would change. If i want to see that now I would need to node lock every possbile turn+river, right?

2. Is it possible to get text output or range explorer, I mean something like
set bet 64,5 check 35,5
K-high bet 11,5 check 88,5
etc.
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04-04-2019 , 03:55 AM
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1. Is it possible (or even worth it) to be able to solve only for few turns/rivers instead of whole game after flop. Basically I would like to be able to pick some turns+rivers and node lock them and see how my flop/turn strategy would change. If i want to see that now I would need to node lock every possbile turn+river, right?
Well, if you only consider some turns/rivers then flop strategy won't be reliable as it would be calculated only on those turns/rivers and thus having a bias towards the cards you choose. There isn't really a good way to do what you want: locking all turns is too much work to be worth it and locking some won't give reliable results.

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2. Is it possible to get text output or range explorer, I mean something like
set bet 64,5 check 35,5
K-high bet 11,5 check 88,5
etc.
You would need to use our text API:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...68544248083387

and parse the output yourself. It's not very hard but at least some programming experience is needed.
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04-04-2019 , 06:11 AM
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use show_range command and add weights up. You may need to filter dead hands if you are using it in root.
Thank you. When sum values of show_range and divide by sum values of siblings of the node, I can get combo%.

Let me ask 2 questions for details.
1. What does dead hands stand for? Do you mean we cannot see difference between 0 frequency of that hand and impossible hand (dead hand)?
2. What order does show values?
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04-04-2019 , 06:22 AM
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2. What order does show values?
Sorry. I got an answer reading document.
show_hand_order provides this.
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