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12-02-2018 , 04:08 AM
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If I get PioSOLVER basic and then want to get PioSOLVER pro, can I upgrade by just paying the difference?
Yes. The upgrades are the difference in price during the first month and the difference +25$ after that.
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12-04-2018 , 01:00 AM
hi
some of us are stuck on mac machine
anyone try to run this program on a mac using "mac crossover" ?
would it works ?
thx
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12-04-2018 , 07:47 AM
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hi
some of us are stuck on mac machine
anyone try to run this program on a mac using "mac crossover" ?
would it works ?
thx
We have quite a few customers using Pio on Macs. The most popular options are Parallels or Bootcamp (this one boots the computer into Windows so it's less practical fi you want to use MacOS along with Pio). If you try one of those or another VM make sure to choose 64bit Windows and to dedicate ample resources to the VM (defaults are usually quite low).

I am not sure if crossover works. It's a good idea to ask on our Discord, maybe someone already tried it.
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12-04-2018 , 10:42 AM
Well hopefully if u ever have news about this would be interesting to know .

It would solve lot of issues for those like me who don’t have any windows OS ...
Thx .
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12-06-2018 , 09:39 AM
Hi does any on know how to convert the EV of a bet size into BB/100, also why does Pio frequently give higher EV to bigger bet sizes?
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12-06-2018 , 12:39 PM
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Hi does any on know how to convert the EV of a bet size into BB/100, also why does Pio frequently give higher EV to bigger bet sizes?
EV is in chips so you first convert that to bb and then multiply by 100.
For example if EV difference is 0.1 chips per hand at 5/10 blinds that 0.01bb/hand which is 1bb/100 hands.

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Pio frequently give higher EV to bigger bet sizes?
Ev of a bet size doesn't make much sense as a concept. Usually a bigger bet size has smaller and stronger range so that's naturally has higher EV. It makes sense to compare trees with different sizes (EV in root) and here it differs: sometimes bigger are better, sometimes smaller depending on board texture, ranges and stack sizes.
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12-06-2018 , 08:05 PM
In this case https://gyazo.com/98d6dd52612226d5b3d3e364b1ea014f what is the most frequent bet size?
Bet 750: (19.02% or 3.21%)
or Bet 188: (24.88% or 2.44%)

If I look at the text above, the bet of 188 is the most frequent but if I look at the image the bet of 750 is the most frequent.
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12-07-2018 , 08:26 AM
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In this case https://gyazo.com/98d6dd52612226d5b3d3e364b1ea014f what is the most frequent bet size?
Bet 750: (19.02% or 3.21%)
or Bet 188: (24.88% or 2.44%)

If I look at the text above, the bet of 188 is the most frequent but if I look at the image the bet of 750 is the most frequent.
The numbers in the right upper corner are average for the whole line (on all turn/river cards). Apparently on this specific card bet 750 is used more but average on all cards/runouts is higher for Bet188. You can use hotness feature (ctrl+h) to see the frequencies on all cards in a nice graphical form.
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12-07-2018 , 01:18 PM
Taking a shot here. I'm a Mac user in NYC. I don't think I want to bother with trying to get Piosolver on my Mac so I'm going to buy a new computer. I play a little online but mostly live. Does anyone have any recommendations for what kind of computer to buy that best supports Piosolver and some low level online play? No mass multi tabling needs or anything. Oh also right now I play on sportsbetting.ag but would love to hear recommendations of what sites to play on now that I won't be restricted by a Mac. Thanks!
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12-07-2018 , 04:10 PM
On the preflop solver I choose how many flops to use but I still get and error message command all flops command not recognized any help to solve this error would be greatly appreciated.
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12-07-2018 , 04:12 PM
get one that has a minimum of 16GB of ram.
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12-08-2018 , 10:15 PM
Hi, for some reason Node-locking isn't working.

After setting strategy in range -> clicking fixed -> lock all hands -> set strategy, the fixed hand range goes back to proportional.

Also after locking node, the strategy on any street ( before or after ) unless I click Go ( which solves it back to unexploitable ).

Last edited by YifeLife; 12-08-2018 at 10:24 PM.
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12-08-2018 , 10:46 PM
^^

example ( left is original, right is node locked) - https://imgur.com/a/37WbYYL
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12-09-2018 , 12:09 AM
as a somewhat pio noob, is there any merit to setting the round strategies to 1/1 (so you don't get a mix, a combo is either 100% or 0% call fold or raise) if i am not worried about balance (playing live low stakes)
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12-09-2018 , 06:39 AM
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Does anyone have any recommendations for what kind of computer to buy that best supports Piosolver and some low level online play? No mass multi tabling needs or anything. Oh also right now I play on sportsbetting.ag but would love to hear recommendations of what sites to play on now that I won't be restricted by a Mac. Thanks!
Are you buying a laptop or a desktop computer? If a laptop make sure to get one with 16GB of RAM and preferably with a real quad core CPU (not dual core with hyperthreading). If you are getting a desktop then it's definitely the best bet to get one of the new Ryzen CPUs as they offer the best performance/price ratio.

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On the preflop solver I choose how many flops to use but I still get and error message command all flops command not recognized any help to solve this error would be greatly appreciated.
The preflop solver is only available in the edge version. It requires very serious hardware to run (64GB RAM at least and a fast modern CPU). You can solve pure preflop trees (without postflop play) with any version including the free one.

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After setting strategy in range -> clicking fixed -> lock all hands -> set strategy, the fixed hand range goes back to proportional.
Is only one of them fixed? If there more than one fixed then they will be resolved as proportional (cause you can't fix AA to bet 100% and call 100% for example).

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Also after locking node, the strategy on any street ( before or after ) unless I click Go ( which solves it back to unexploitable ).
It seems some words are missing in that sentence so I am not sure what the problem is. On your screenshot it doesn't look like anything is locked, if it was it would show "LOCKED" flag, like this:

https://gyazo.com/81b689f3a951cedffaf19871af95378b

Make sure you are in fact locking the hands and not just changing the strategy by using those radio buttons:

https://gyazo.com/168d6c366284a701fe77bddfcce19e63

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as a somewhat pio noob, is there any merit to setting the round strategies to 1/1 (so you don't get a mix, a combo is either 100% or 0% call fold or raise) if i am not worried about balance (playing live low stakes)
It's hard to say. What would the point of doing that? The resulting strategy will be very exploitable. You may hope it's good enough for your games but I am not sure what the point of rounding is anyway. You are losing a lot of information by doing that. For example before rounding you know that hands with mixed strategies are at least close/borderline while after rounding slam dunk call looks the same as a marginal bluff-catcher.
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12-09-2018 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Are you buying a laptop or a desktop computer? If a laptop make sure to get one with 16GB of RAM and preferably with a real quad core CPU (not dual core with hyperthreading). If you are getting a desktop then it's definitely the best bet to get one of the new Ryzen CPUs as they offer the best performance/price ratio.
Laptop. Ok so since I'm drawing dead at computers - what are some brands that have a real quad core CPU? Maybe a link? Under 1k preferable. Thanks for your help!
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12-09-2018 , 10:58 PM
is there a setting to make an audible chime once the desired accuracy level has been reached? i'm using the basic version if that matters
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12-10-2018 , 03:45 AM
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Laptop. Ok so since I'm drawing dead at computers - what are some brands that have a real quad core CPU? Maybe a link? Under 1k preferable. Thanks for your help!
I am not following laptop market. Intel MQ/HQ series CPUs used to be the only option but I've hear laptops with Ryzen CPUs are coming out they will likely be the best option but it's just starting. Unfortunately if you want a quad core CPU and 16GB of RAM it will likely either be expensive or not very slick/good looking. All the nice ultrabooks on the market have only dual core CPU for example.

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is there a setting to make an audible chime once the desired accuracy level has been reached? i'm using the basic version if that matters
Actually there is! Go to Tools->Configuration->Behavior and at the bottom there is "Notification" part. You can set it to a system notification sound or choose a custom one: sound file, link to youtube video etc.
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12-10-2018 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
EV is in chips so you first convert that to bb and then multiply by 100.
For example if EV difference is 0.1 chips per hand at 5/10 blinds that 0.01bb/hand which is 1bb/100 hands.



Ev of a bet size doesn't make much sense as a concept. Usually a bigger bet size has smaller and stronger range so that's naturally has higher EV. It makes sense to compare trees with different sizes (EV in root) and here it differs: sometimes bigger are better, sometimes smaller depending on board texture, ranges and stack sizes.
Hi can anyone tell me what is meant by EV in root?
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12-10-2018 , 05:33 PM
Has anyone had issues opening the program after installation? I installed Piosolver basic and the installation and activation worked. But when I click "PioViewer" to open it, it crashes.
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12-10-2018 , 07:14 PM
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Hi can anyone tell me what is meant by EV in root?
It means EV at the beginning of the tree (root node).

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Has anyone had issues opening the program after installation? I installed Piosolver basic and the installation and activation worked. But when I click "PioViewer" to open it, it crashes.
Make sure to update Net Framework to the newest version (4.7.2), you can get it from Microsoft's website
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12-11-2018 , 01:12 AM
Hello, I was trying to use the combo lock function in pio. It always stucks at a fairly bad accuracy(20%-30%) of the pot and never gets any lower.
I have tried both
1)solve the tree without node locking 2) combo lock 3)solve it again
and
1)build tree 2) combo lock 3)solve.
Both ends up with the same problem mentioned above.

I have no problem solving the same unlocked tree or solving the same tree after node locking the whole range.

Any idea what's happening with it?
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12-11-2018 , 04:09 AM
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Any idea what's happening with it?
It sounds strange. Can you send us a tree config and what you are locking to support@piosolver.com? I will try to re-run it. Are you using the newest version btw (it should be 1.10.21 for the viewer, 1.10.19 for the solver)?
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12-11-2018 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
It sounds strange. Can you send us a tree config and what you are locking to support@piosolver.com? I will try to re-run it. Are you using the newest version btw (it should be 1.10.21 for the viewer, 1.10.19 for the solver)?
Thx for the reply, I just found out while I was locking the betting strategy(as opposed to checking), I just cleared all other combos, making the "starting strategy" when solver calculate almost always checking. If I made all other combos 50/50(but without locking them), it worked out just fine.

I am not sure if it's supposed to be the case(for the solver to stuck if it starts with 99%checking strategy) but I guess my problem is solved for now
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12-11-2018 , 07:20 PM
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I am not sure if it's supposed to be the case(for the solver to stuck if it starts with 99%checking strategy) but I guess my problem is solved for now
That's a quirk of an algorithm we are using (it's unable to go back from 0). It doesn't influence normal solving and makes some things convenient. Unfortunately node-locking is not one of those cases
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