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05-05-2018 , 02:52 AM
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How do I get the preflop ranges from piocloud and dropbox into piosolver?
Those are just saves. You need to download it, unzip it and then load into Pio by going to File->Load tree and choosing one of the files.
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05-05-2018 , 04:14 AM
Hi! I would like to run a script that would:
1) Solve and save 10 boards.
2) Remove OOP Check option (make it bet 100%) and solve/save on the same boards.
3) Remove OOP Bet option (make it check 100%) and solve/save on the same boards.

Is it even possible to do such a script?
If yes, how to do it?

Thank you very much in advance.
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05-05-2018 , 04:32 AM
Hi, i need some help with piosolver. I jus downloaded it. When i click build tree, it states build tree ok. But when i press go, it keep running at the side with 12 secs interval. Even i leave my com for 8 hours it never ends. Is it a setting issue?
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05-06-2018 , 05:40 PM
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Hi! I would like to run a script that would:
1) Solve and save 10 boards.
That part is easy.

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2) Remove OOP Check option (make it bet 100%) and solve/save on the same boards.
Just make a new configuration with the check removed and solve with the same boards (you can paste the boards into script generation window).

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3) Remove OOP Bet option (make it check 100%) and solve/save on the same boards.
Same as above.

You can chain the scripts as well. The way to do that is described in the FAQ here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...WMZ8OQwxw/edit

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Hi, i need some help with piosolver. I jus downloaded it. When i click build tree, it states build tree ok. But when i press go, it keep running at the side with 12 secs interval. Even i leave my com for 8 hours it never ends. Is it a setting issue?
Yes, it will just work forever until you stop it. That's expected behavior. You can specify stopping conditions as well, here:
https://gyazo.com/1d7d53244958fd4cb27b6e8444c28570
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05-07-2018 , 03:21 AM
I am receiving an error message of: "Command add_to_subset not recognized" when attempting to solve for preflop.

How do I resolve this issue?
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05-07-2018 , 03:43 AM
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I am receiving an error message of: "Command add_to_subset not recognized" when attempting to solve for preflop.

How do I resolve this issue?
Are you on the newest version? (1.10.16 at the moment).
This usually happens when trying to build a full preflop tree with basic/pro versions which don't contain the preflop solver.
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05-07-2018 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Are you on the newest version? (1.10.16 at the moment).
This usually happens when trying to build a full preflop tree with basic/pro versions which don't contain the preflop solver.
Oh ok makes sense. I have pro
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05-07-2018 , 05:10 AM
Hello,

When I try to round my strategy of my tree. I get the below error. How do i solve this?

Plugin: Tree:Round Strategies failed
ERROR: round_up_to Can't do that when solver is running.
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05-07-2018 , 05:12 AM
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When I try to round my strategy of my tree. I get the below error. How do i solve this?

Plugin: Tree:Round Strategies failed
ERROR: round_up_to Can't do that when solver is running.
You have to stop the solver first.
It can be done in treebuilding in calculation tab, there is a stop button next to "go" button.
The reason you have to stop the solver first is that rounding while the solver is running would be instantly ruined by the solver adjusting the strategies.
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05-07-2018 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
You have to stop the solver first.
It can be done in treebuilding in calculation tab, there is a stop button next to "go" button.
The reason you have to stop the solver first is that rounding while the solver is running would be instantly ruined by the solver adjusting the strategies.
Got it. THanks!

And do you round strategies? to what 1/x ? I'm new to using piosolver and theres too much different frequencies. What do you recommend rounding it to?

Is it ok to start with 1/2 or would that be too "rough"?
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05-07-2018 , 05:23 AM
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And do you round strategies? to what 1/x ? I'm new to using piosolver and theres too much different frequencies. What do you recommend rounding it to?

Is it ok to start with 1/2 or would that be too "rough"?
The nature of optimal strategies in Holdem is that they are often heavily mixed. Rounding is always a trade-off between getting a worse strategy and making it more readable. I feel 1/2 (0-50%-100%) is way too rough although I am not fan of rounding in the first place.
You can see how much exploitability you have lost when you round and click "Calculate Results" button.
Please be aware that rounding changes strategies in the tree and it's not possible to recover the original solution anymore. If you want to experiment with it it's recommended to save the full tree first (it's going to be a very big save).
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05-07-2018 , 06:21 AM
I'm trying to figure out how to view aggregation reports.

Excel is giving an error: report.csv is not a valid Win32 application.

Open Office will open the file, but the formatting is unreadable.

I tried both "human readable" and "full precision" with same results. (although not sure what these settings mean)

Thanks!
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05-07-2018 , 07:16 AM
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Excel is giving an error: report.csv is not a valid Win32 application.
I don't use excel but it seems you are doing something wrong. Reports are not executable files/applications just data. Excel shouldn't expect valid Win32 application.

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Open Office will open the file, but the formatting is unreadable.
I am not sure what the status of Open Office is and if it's still supported. I think the development is in Libre Office these days. It opens reports correctly by default for most people. In all Excel/Libre Office/Open office there should be delimiter settings. You need "," (a comma) as field delimiter and "." (a dot) as decimal sign. I am not sure where those settings were in most programs. My experience is that Libre Office detects them correctly as does Google Docs.

My usual rant here: CSV stands for Comma Separated Values. If a program opens our report which is exactly that (that is comma separated values) with unreadable formatting it doesn't speak well about that program. If you have 10 minutes to waste, I encourage you to fill a bug report
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05-08-2018 , 04:56 AM
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I don't use excel but it seems you are doing something wrong. Reports are not executable files/applications just data. Excel shouldn't expect valid Win32 application.



I am not sure what the status of Open Office is and if it's still supported. I think the development is in Libre Office these days. It opens reports correctly by default for most people. In all Excel/Libre Office/Open office there should be delimiter settings. You need "," (a comma) as field delimiter and "." (a dot) as decimal sign. I am not sure where those settings were in most programs. My experience is that Libre Office detects them correctly as does Google Docs.

My usual rant here: CSV stands for Comma Separated Values. If a program opens our report which is exactly that (that is comma separated values) with unreadable formatting it doesn't speak well about that program. If you have 10 minutes to waste, I encourage you to fill a bug report
Libre worked, thanks a bunch!
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05-09-2018 , 02:40 AM
hi, I have a basic pio-solver version I don't need anymore. is it possible to sell it?
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05-09-2018 , 05:41 AM
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hi, I have a basic pio-solver version I don't need anymore. is it possible to sell it?
You can't. Reasons:
https://www.piosolver.com/pages/faq (question number 8)

If you buy Pio license second hand the likelyhood of being scammed is very high. There were many scam attempts already which we can't do anything about. You have a license and contract with us. Part of the contract is that you can request resetting of the license and activation on another computer. If the original owner asks for this we have to grant it and they can take the license away from anyone else at any time. We don't have resources nor willingness to police what happened in private transactions outside our control.

Needles to say there are more things which can go wrong, the major one being someone selling the license to someone else and then requesting a refund/filling a chargeback with us. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it other than cancel the license in this case. You will be scammed if you buy Pio license second-hand. It already happened to many people.
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05-09-2018 , 09:01 AM
oh I see. thanks for the detailed response though.
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05-10-2018 , 05:25 AM
We are moving PioSOLVER Skype group to Discord, link:
https://discord.gg/h3J4ank

Reasons why it's happening:
1)No limit for number of people (on Skype we had to regularly remove people to keep the group below 600 members)
2)Channels
3)Nicer interface
4)Better moderation options
5)Better security/privacy
6)We really don't like Skype

Skype group will remain online for a few weeks and then it will be removed. We will likely not use Skype at all after that happens.

This 2p2 thread remain the best place to ask general questions/make suggetsions. On Discord you can have discussion with other Pio users about various topics but we won't be able to follow it too closely. If you want to guarantee your questions is answered please post it here.
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05-10-2018 , 03:42 PM
Bought a new laptop and ran a larger size sim with edge to test it out. Noticed my fan was much louder during it so should I be worried about over heating?
I plan to run scripts overnight so want to make sure I don't damage the laptop doing so.
Do plan on upgrading the ram to 16-32gb as it is only 8gb right now, Not sure if that would help with cooling at all or just able to run larger sims.

Here are the specs in case you need. This is the cliffs for what it says about the cooling system - ( The Hyper Cool Duo-Copper cooling system uses heat pipes and a dual fan system to cool the processor and graphics card independently. This design maximizes cooling efficiency to give ASUS FX53 the stability required for all tasks ).

Thanks for the help
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05-11-2018 , 12:15 AM
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Noticed my fan was much louder during it so should I be worried about over heating?
It's hard to say, some laptops have tendency to overheat some others don't. It depends on build quality and what manufacturer thought would be a main usecase (in general gaming laptops are better than for example Macbooks). You can consider buying a cooling pad to help with temperature.

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I plan to run scripts overnight so want to make sure I don't damage the laptop doing so.
We can't guarantee it. If everything is functioning properly it shouldn't be damaged from running a CPU instensive program. That being said you could consider reducing number of threads Pio uses (so CPU usage is lower) and introduce breaks between trees in the script (the feature is there for exactly this reason).
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05-11-2018 , 01:18 AM
Trying to run multiflop aggregation report. When I go analysis>runouts aggregated frequencies analysis over multiple files. I got error message: "This feature works only for flop saves with board in the file name"
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05-11-2018 , 05:00 AM
How are piosolver's solutions different than poker snowie's solutions? If I input the exact ranges that poker snowie uses for a given spot will it give the same solutions piosolver will give?
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05-11-2018 , 05:08 AM
How do you get piosolver to show discounted combos on later streets? For example, say we fold a certain hand in the range on the flop a certain % of the time. I have noticed from watching videos that the colored part in the box that displays the hand is smaller on the turn because we fold it some % of the time on the flop. Is there an option to turn this on? Thanks
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05-11-2018 , 11:14 AM
Hey Punter, I was thinking of building a new pc and I was wondering what CPU you would recommend for piosolver. I heard the amd threadripper 1950x has been benchmarked pretty well for piosolver. But which CPU could you recommend for home pc made for piosolver? thanks for your help
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05-11-2018 , 12:39 PM
Hello, I have a few questions, I have PIO Basic.

1) What is the minimal accuracy required to only find out the optimal flop bet size and nothing else? (when building a tree I input 4 flop bet sizes then when I find out which one PIO prefers I build another tree with only that size)

2) I have a 6 year old desktop computer with 8 RAM, 2 cores and 4 logical processors that takes 30 minutes to solve a single raised pot with one bet sizing on each street. With that in mind if I were to upgrade to PIO Pro how long would it take instead? Could my computer even handle scripts or does it just suck too much for that?

3) On your website you mention servers but I don't have a clue how those work, in my case would one be useful (to improve the tree building speed) and if so can you give a specific example of a cheap option (not just the name of a website), and how long would solving a single raised pot take using that option on Basic and Pro respectively please?

Thank you for your time.
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