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Old 04-21-2018, 03:44 PM   #3926
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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It shouldn't happen in 1.10 anymore so please update to that.
The most likey reason is that you have a newer version on one computer than on the other.
Do I need solve these files again or it does update files also?

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Old 04-21-2018, 07:36 PM   #3927
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

When I choose multiple betsizes for the flop and the solver chooses to bet a certain hand for a bigger size 100% of the time. therefor according to the solver that hand cant be in the turn range when i go through the tree via a tinier size on the flop. This is a problem for me when I want to compare EV of different sizes on the turn with the hand that doesn't exist in the turn range according to the solver. How do I solve this? Do I need to recalculate the tree each time for each flop size I want to look at?
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:39 PM   #3928
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Is there a shortcut type of way to node lock every single turn without having to manual lock them all?
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Old 04-22-2018, 02:40 AM   #3929
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

I've found that "lock selected combos" feature doesn't appear to work as it should to.

If I select some categories of hands in Range Explorer (e.g. 'bet' range) > then select them in 'lock selected combos' window > set strategy and close, PIO locks all remaining hands to 'check' and nothing changes after solving although it is COMBO_LOCKED.

It works fine only if I manually lock some hands not changing others. But Range Explorer selection feature doesn't work this way.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:11 AM   #3930
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Ok sounds great. Do you have and recommendations of website? There are so many, I have no idea how to choose.
We really don't. Their offerings are changing all the time and it's hard to have an informed opinion if yo don't actually use their services. Most popular options among our customers are Contabo, Online.net and OVH. It seems Contabo offers the best performance/price ratio as of now. Feel free to ask about it on our Skype group. It's a popular topic there.

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Also, what os does pio support?
You need 64bit Windows with graphical interface (that is a version which isn't "Windows server core" or w/e it's called, normal Windows server is fine of course).

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1 -Hey, I was trying to understand more about river bets and I started to make toy games on piosolver starting on the river situation. On my mind I should value bet a hand on the river when I have more than 50% equity against villain call's range, so I started to do it on pio and I see that is true when I don't allow villain to check/raise on the river, when I allow villain to check/raise on the river, the things seems to be a little different and I didn't get the pattern involved, on how pio decides to value bet or not. Because against the same range when I allow to check/raise he prefers to check the entire range and when I don't allow check/raise he prefers to bet, it is a little obvious but I didn't get what he compares, like in first case I see the equity and I know why and the second case I don't know what is.
Well, it's normal that you have to be careful betting when the opponent is allowed to raise and that you also have to be careful betting OOP in general. It's hard to discuss it in general without seeing a specific case.

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2 - Does the last version 1.10.15 ? Because I updated my piosolver and it is showing on the bottom version 1.10.14.
1.10.14 for the solver (the engine) and 1.10.16 for PioViewer (GUI) at this point (you can check PioViewer version in "About" in the top menu).

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I'm going to buy preflop solver within few coming days - it's either simple postflop for $299 or piosolver edge for $1099.

What makes piosolver 3,67x pricier and 3,67x better than simple postflop?
To be honest I am not following what they are doing at all. Your best bet is to look at the features and ask around for opinions. Anything coming from us or them will obviously be very biased. Two things which very likely differ though are RAM requirements and the interface to browse the solutions.

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Is it possible to get like 7 days trial for preflop solver and compare it myself?
We don't have trials at this point (the free version is meant for evaluation but it doesn't have preflop functionality right now). If you email us I may be able to make a trial for you though (support@piosolver.com).

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Do I need solve these files again or it does update files also?
Newer versions of the solver can read older saves but not the other way around. No need to updates the saves if you update the solver.

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When I choose multiple betsizes for the flop and the solver chooses to bet a certain hand for a bigger size 100% of the time. therefor according to the solver that hand cant be in the turn range when i go through the tree via a tinier size on the flop. This is a problem for me when I want to compare EV of different sizes on the turn with the hand that doesn't exist in the turn range according to the solver. How do I solve this? Do I need to recalculate the tree each time for each flop size I want to look at?
Does it not show EV for those hands though? Did you check?

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Is there a shortcut type of way to node lock every single turn without having to manual lock them all?
There isn't. It's not a simple problem to solve because every turn is different so you would need some general language to lock all turns in a certain way. This is difficult to do to be powerful enough, easy enough to use and also useful.

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If I select some categories of hands in Range Explorer (e.g. 'bet' range) > then select them in 'lock selected combos' window > set strategy and close, PIO locks all remaining hands to 'check' and nothing changes after solving although it is COMBO_LOCKED.
Yes because setting strategy and locking are separate things right now. You can set a strategy to something specific and then only lock some combos. I will put on a feature on a to-do to do: "leave the combos not locked the same as they were when setting strategy".
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:55 AM   #3931
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

I am currently searching for a new laptop to buy and run PIO on it. Therefore few questions respective required hardware. Are the following hardware specs sufficient to run PIO postflop simulations:

- Intel i7
- RAM 16GB
- Quad core 7700HQ (or would you reccomend 8550U)
- SSD 128GB

Any other harware requirements that should be taken into account? Thanks.

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Old 04-22-2018, 02:25 PM   #3932
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Hi,

How am I to download a previous version of PIO? I am wanting to download version 1.10.13 if possible.

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Old 04-22-2018, 04:36 PM   #3933
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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I am currently searching for a new laptop to buy and run PIO on it. Therefore few questions respective required hardware. Are the following hardware specs sufficient to run PIO postflop simulations:

- Intel i7
- RAM 16GB
- Quad core 7700HQ (or would you reccomend 8550U)
- SSD 128GB
16GB RAM is plenty for a postflop solver.
7700HQ is going to be much faster than 8550U

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How am I to download a previous version of PIO? I am wanting to download version 1.10.13 if possible.
It's not possible. It's impossible to do any kind of support/fixes if everyone is on different version.
If something is broken in the newer one for you then you can let us know and there is a chance we fix it. Sometimes there are changes which are not convenient for everyone (for example font scaling) but sadly it isn't always possible to have the settings perfect for everyone.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:04 PM   #3934
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Im using a i7 8700k with a cooler master 212 evo and its temperature rises to 75 degrees C immediately and stabilizes there when running a simulation. Also when I ran 2 scripts of 4 flops (around 2gb each) the temp was exceeding 80 degrees C for a brief second. Is this a problem and should I invest in a water cooler?
I have 8700k +Noctua NH D15. And it is stable on 60-62C. Check this Noctua its the best.

I also have bought this CPU to generally work with Pio. I am wondering is it worth it to overclock the CPU. I am not a tech guy... will it be 10-15% faster Pio wise? I also have this RAM Team T-Force Vulcan 32GB (2 x 16GB) 2400. Will i have a better result if the RAM is 3200mhz? Someone told me that i can make my RAM from 2400 to 3000 somewhere in win 10 BIOS is this true?

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Old Yesterday, 03:09 AM   #3935
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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I am wondering is it worth it to overclock the CPU. I am not a tech guy... will it be 10-15% faster Pio wise?
If you overclock by 10%-15% it will be about 10%-15% faster. You will get higher temperatures and other things may require adjusting as well (I am not a hardware guy either).

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Will i have a better result if the RAM is 3200mhz?
All the information we've got so far suggests it would be negligible difference.
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