64GB should be fine.
32GB won't be enough unless you really want very simplistic tree.


It's not possible right now although it would be a nice feature

Hi - looking to set up a server to run deep hu preflop sims. Can anyone point me in the right direction? What specs am I gunna need?

i asked this just a few pages back. no way to do it, just have to build it a second time

Hello.

I am a new PioSolver Basic user and appear to be suffering from a bug. The area where you input the tree build is not scaling correctly, meaning I can not see or get to the river inputs. I hope you can see what I am saying by looking at the picture below. Is it a resolution problem? I have tried dragging the boxes inside the software but they do not move.


Thanks, looking forward to using the sofware.

This problem is caused by Windows 7 scaling. It's a bit hard to test because:

1)It works correctly in Windows 10
2)it's hard to make it work for both 125% and 150% scaling

We plan to make update available in coming 2 days (tomorrow most likely) with some fixes including this one so hopefully it works correctly. Here is what you can try for now:

1)Disable DPI scaling (if it's an option)
2)Disable DIP scaling for PioViewer only (righ click on PioViewer.exe, choose properties then compatibility settings and "disable DPI scaling"

(https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...h-dpi-displays)

Again, we hope it's fixed in upcoming bugfix but those things are a bit hard to test.

Thanks a lot for the swift reply, much appreciated.

Although what you suggested didnt work (It will not allow me to actually tick/untick that specific option?), the link you shared taught me to descale the DPI in windows control panel.

Now the program looks fine EVEN if i do need a telescope to view everything else

Cheers. After the update, i'll try reverting to my prefered DPI scaling and see what changes are present. Thanks agin.

I recently switched computers and didn't need to reactivate normal PIO but did have to reactivate PIOplo. Now it says my product key has been activated on the maximum number of computers.

It should definitely ask you about the key if it's a new computer, not necessarily if you just changed some components.

Drop us an email at support@piosolver.com including your registration key and we will sort it out for you.

PioSOLVER 1.10.5 is now available.
This is a bugfix release, many issues are fixed since 1.10 release, those include:

1)Fixes for 125% DPI scaling on older versions of Windows (hopefully)
2)"proportional" is now back as default in node-locking form
3)Some other default settings are back to what they were in 1.9
4)Small preflop saves took a lot of RAM after loading - now this is fixed
5)A lot of fixes regarding color config
6)Scripts contain the config again when saved
7)Max exploit calculations in presence of locked nodes are fixed

Hi,

I am currently studying Turn value:bluff ratio in betting range (whether we are talking about 2barrel spots, donk spots, delayed cbets, or whatever...).

There's this common thought that on turn, the value:bluff ratio should be 1:1 for a pot sized bet. I wanted to check examples and go into more details.

I set up a few spots 100b with Pio (most of them with 6max ranges BTN steal vs BB defense).

For example this board : 9d8d2c flop check-bet-call, then see the 2barrel frequency depending on turn cards.

I found very different results from one spot to another. But I could not find any general rule that would make sense.

I was expecting I could find some general guidelines like :
- bluff more when the Turn card gives you a range advantage (in terms of Hero's range EV vs Villain's range EV)
- bluff more when the proportion of TPWK+ in your range > the proportion of TPWK+ in Villain's range


Have you got any idea of what the general rule of thumbs is to estimate the value:bluff ratio on Turn?
Any idea of which metrics really matters (EV range vs range? proportion of strong made hands in both ranges?) ?

Thanks

I just bought PIO Basic and am having a problem that's driving me crazy. In the new version that I just downloaded, In the initial browser tab the 13x13 grey boxes are not displaying hand rankings... i.e. In the trial the diagonal is AA, KK .... with a little number underneath for the different weights (1, .75, .25 etc). My version has a 13x13 grid of only empty grey boxes (colored boxes after running a tree and solver for postflop but still nothing to indicate hand ranking) and I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm suppose to do to get the letters/numbers for hand rankings to display. Please help me for the love of god.

**The browser for this version looks like it may be mis-sized, however free version I can adjust and Basic version seems very very limited... also please note that when I mouse over the blank boxes it pulls up the correct hand rank on the right hand side.. i.e. 76hh 76ss 76cc 76dd but is still blank on the left

To be honest we are so busy with development these days we don't have much (if any) time to think about poker strategy. In general we don't attempt to answer the why question. Poker coaches and strong players are well better equipped to try to make sense of the results. Our duty is to make sure the results are correct and that there is a lot of tools to analyze them and look at them from various angles.

You can make the whole window bigger. Just drag bottom right corner to make it bigger and the numbers should start appearing.
You can also trying making it fullscreen. If you are using DPI scaling settings on Windows 7/8 then make sure you are on 1.10.5 version (it was just uploaded, run the updater to get it) as some scaling issues were solved there.

If that doesn't work please make a screenshot with the problem.

Browser 13x13 grid is similar to this only with grey squares, and lighter blank grey squares along the diagonal where the pockets pairs go

Here's what it's displaying... the window has very limited ability to resize (can't figure out how to full screen) and all resizing currently is not fixing issue

**this is on Windows 10... also on PIO version 1.10.5

Well, to make it full screen you need to click a button in the right upper corner (the rectangle one). As of right now it looks like the bottom of the window is hidden as well so you can drag it up and then resize.
To be honest there is likely something very strange going on on your system. PioViewer resizes as every other window on Windows, for example notepad.
Maybe this is this issue:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9355c0e?auth=1

I appreciate the advise so far; however this is not the issue. When you referred to full screen mode earlier I assumed you were referring to something different than the maximize button in the upper right hand corner. I've clicked an unclicked this (the button between the minimize and close commands) several times and resized the window via the tool in the bottom right hand corner as well.

As for the tablet mode solution, thank you again; however I double checked and my computer is not in tablet mode, and also no other window in any other program, including PioViewerFree are having any issue resizing.


I'll send a couple more screenshots

This is another view of my PioViewerBasic window (note that it is currently maximized.)



Here is a view of PioViewerFree window, functioning perfectly

Ok, it looks like quite low resolution but you should still be able to see most results
Try moving the vertical bar between 13x13 area and the rectangle of 8 suits to the right. This will give the 13x13 area a bit more space so the letters could appear.

I would like to have the feature to set bet sizes (only for the turn) based on turn cards.
For example on AcTd9c
2dhs,3dhs,4dhs,5dhs 150
6dhs,7dhs,9dhs 100
c*(any) 0 (checking oop all clubs)
Adhs,Kdhs,Qdhs,Jdhs 50
8dhs 0

I am a new PIO Basic user.

I want to understand more about the options in the postflop tree building and calculations tab for NL.

If there is a thread or resources that discusses the options could someone point me to it?

Questions I have had with respect to this input area are:
a) pluses and minuses of having multiple numbers in the Bet sizes option for Flop, turn and river
b) I have 16GB of ram in my laptop. And sometimes I am hitting a message which says not enough memory available (need 14GB free and I have 12GB or similar). What can I trim from the inputs to reduce the size of the tree? Or should I simply look at getting more GB

I have other questions. But as they are likely to have been answered elsewhere if someone could point me in the general direction I would appreciate it.

It's unlikely to happen as guaranteeing that the same line is possible on every card makes many features possible/easier to implement. We decided to keep that guarantee at least for now.

I don't have anything to recommend unfortunately. In general it's a trade-off between space/solving time and more precise solution with more options. A lot of very good players have very varying views about what is the best way to construct the trees.

The safest things to remove:
-donk bets (those are very rarely used and don't contribute to EV almost at all)
-raise on the flop in a 3bet pot in position
-multiple raise sizes, especially once there was already raise before that
-any bet 5th+ bet on the same street (use cap 4)

You can get more RAM but then it will take even longer to solve so it's not that simple. I feel 16GB should be enough for postflop play, even for very big trees.

There are FAQs videos and some more, here:
https://www.piosolver.com/pages/faq-videos

This is an official support thread so please ask your questions here.

hey punter, I just wanted to say thank you again for your fantastic support the other day. The issue ended up being in the area that you suggested and I wanted to give a quick post so that future users have an easier time addressing this issue.
First off this seemed to be an issue with Windows 10 scaling... Specifically if you right click the desktop and go under *display settings* there's an option to change the size of apps, text, and other items. There seem to be various resolutions and zoom settings that have issues with PIO Basic and benefit from being reconfigured. Once again, the free version of PIO seemed to have no such issues, so there should be an easy fix somewhere within some version of PIO.
I think that the issue I was having was loosely related to my computer having some hiccup causing the HDMI output to malfunction, switching the output to the standard PC monitor output. This should've prompted several different output resolutions within a relatively short time frame, if that makes any sense.
Anyhow, here are two last screenshots of one configuration that doesn't work (through HDMI output), and the next one (that I'm currently using) which does.
Thanks again for the support on this wonderful product, I'm already noticing great strides in my game within a week of use!! ...... WATCH TF OUT ALL YOU ****ING DONKEYS,,,, WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!

Hello Punter, I found some of cfr files can't be load, the PioViewer's right corner showing "Working..." all the time, and the Pio is freeze.

To reproduce this issue, I made a script to run 15 flops, after I run it, I found that about 3 or 4 flops can not be load, below is the screenshot.

Very interesting. What you should be going for I think is the native resolution 1920x1080 and then 125% scaling. Then you will be able to resize the window to make it bigger and see more of the date.
You still haven't moved that vertical bar between 13x13 area and the button on the right in both your screenshot, try it, there will be more space

Can you please send me one of those saves (and preferably the script itself) to support@piosolver.com? I will try to reproduce it.

Make sure you are on 1.10.5 version as well (run the updater to get it).

I found this issue on 1.10 (Dec 5,2017) version, and I just upgrade to 1.10.5 today, tomorrow I will run script, I will send the cfr file and script to this mailbox if this issue still exist on 1.10.5 version.

Thank you!

When I've done a script and then multifile aggregated report I see EV of hands in chips.

Is it correct to say that EV is calculated overall, across all matchups?

How I can adjust the EV number to chipEV/100 (bb/100 if I presume some number for being BB)?

Thanks.