I haven't solved enough trees to be confident but it's not as clear-cut on the river.
You can try experimenting yourself

should i be using pio to help my game when my main games are 1-3 and 3-5 NL at casinos? or should i be focusing on exploitative play? most of my opponents aren't playing at a high level. any thoughts are welcomed!

Hi.
All of sudden im missing pftables.dat that does not allow me to start pio.
What can i do? Where can i download the file if this is the case.

Thanks

It's definitely better to focus on exploitive play.
What the solver may help you with though is understanding where equilibrium is and therefore in what direction your opponent deviate. It may also help with developing default strategy which you can then adjust if you have a specific read.

You might have deleted it by accident.
To restore Pio run the updater again with "force update" checkbox checked. Make sure everything lands in C:\PioSOLVER (or other folder of your choosing different than Downloads, Temp, Sync, Desktop etc.)

Question on Preflop Analysis:

If OOP bets w/ 'X' range, I'm trying to figure IP's 'Y' range equity/strategy in regards to Fold/Call/3b/5b.

I looked up the Preflop video on Youtube and it went into using flop subsets, which I don't have, and I'm not sure if they're necessary for this kind of analysis.

thanks for the response. i think i'll spend 75% of my study time on exploitative and 25% on pio.

There is a preflop solver which solves those problems but you need a very powerful computer (at least 64GB of RAM, fast modern CPU) to run it (it's available in the edge version).

You can try doing solving by hand by inputting approximate ranges, calculating the solution on one of the subsets of flops, running aggregation reports. You then look which hands are +EV and -EV in the ranges, adjust them and repeat the process. This kind of "solving by hand" is unfortunately very slow.

You can find them here:
https://www.piosolver.com/blogs/news/piosolver-1-9-2 (point 3)

Hello, is there some way to have all strategy on 13x13 grid as percentages, not only at zoom box?

https://gyazo.com/2fd86581ef32de0aa76e9c4664afd648

You need to make the 13x13 area bigger by either resizing the whole PioViewer window (you can make it fullscreen for example) or moving a vertical bar between 13x13 grid and the buttons to the right.

The average numbers appear once there is enough space to display minimum size font.

Thanks punter11235

Hi! I followed the link and found a list with txt files and downloaded them, but I could not find the subsets.

Can you connect to solver programmatically (C#, etc) with the basic version or do you need at least pro?

You can find them here:
https://www.piosolver.com/blogs/news/piosolver-1-9-2 (point 3)

You can do that with all versions (free/basic/pro/edge). That's how the viewer works as well. Please read the top part of the docs:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...68544248083387

for some instructions for how to get started with the text interface.

PIO is telling me to 5bet AKs & AA vs a 4b range of only AA, surely this can't be right? The percentages in the top right are off, it's discounting AKs there, is this an error to do with round strategies?




Also is there any difference between the AVX solver and the non AVX?

Thanks.

KK can't profitably 4bet because it doesn't have equity to call a 5bet jam and only forces me to fold 4/14 combos. OOP is 5b jamming AKs just to stop IP profitably 4betting KK?

It's impossible to comment without seeing the full tree config. To share it:

1)Click "copy to clipboard" button in the treebuilding tab
2)Paste it to pastebin.com and link here (or paste here directly in [ code ] [ /code] tags (without spaces)

I can then load by going to Tools->load treebuilding config, solve it and look at the whole tree.

are there any reports about pio stopped working with threadripper 1950x and preflopavx version?

Is there any chance to make the Range Explorer window a bit more detailed?
I would like to have the filter options:
Q-Hi
J-Hi
as well.

Or am I the only one with that request ^^

Yes, it seems it crashes for many people with AMD CPUs although it works for others.
It's the best to wait till next update before investigating it further. You can try googling AMD Ryzen/Threadripper memory instability as well as it seems to be a very common problem not only with Pio.

Not right now but you can always add them to the selection manually by clicking selection area here:

https://gyazo.com/cfae9e96073c43db354bf007eb489ffc

and then adding hands you want (for example all queens).

The non avx is stable?

Would there be any reason Pio wouldn't be using all the resources at it's disposal.

I got a new computer with pio in mind with an Intel Xeon E3-1505M v6 Processor (4 Cores, 8MB Cache, up to 4.0GHz) that has 64 GB of Ram.

I was expecting Pio to be able to solve faster than my old machine which was a few year old Intel i7-4700MQ CPU @ 2.4GHz but it almost appears to be slower?

For example just in a std 100bb spot using the pre-made 6 max CO and BTNvsCO hand ranges with 2 to 3 betsizes per street it just took 10 mins to produce it's first results which was only exploitable down to 14% of the pot.

18 mins in were only at 4.5% of the pot. It only seems to be utilizing ~25% of the CPU, what would be causing this issue?

Guess should note I'm using Basic version at the moment.

Welp its possible I was in a "battery saving" mode on the new computer at the time which was limiting it's capabilities. Will I see any decent improvement in speed if I upgrade to Pro or not really?

I've been messing with the free version on the QsJh2h flop.

Why would a hand, in position, like TPTK play more aggressively against a lead than against a check?

I know it will depend on stack sizes and starting ranges, etc. but just generally speaking why would that happen?

Ok, how I can do that?
My vertical bar between grid and the buttons doesnt move to the right. I can only move horizontal bar on top.

Thanks in advance.

Both are stable but it seems many AMD based setups aren't, at least it's current best guess about the problem. It's the best to wait till the new version before trying to dig into it further.

Usual reasons for it not using more are:

1)Energy saving settings (you need to turn them off, "balanced" is not good)
2)Some external antivirus which eats the resources
3)Cooling system not working correctly (when CPU overheats it throttles the performance to save itself)

Try checking those and see if that helps.
With quad core CPU - not really.

It's hard to answer those questions in general but it's completely impossible without seeing the exact tree you are looking at. Fortunately there is a way to share the config so others can recreate it locally. The way to do it:

1)Fill in the fields in treebuilding tab
2)click "copy to clipboard" button there
3)paste the text to either pastebin.com and link or here using [ code ] [ /code ] tags (without spaces inside)
4)it's then possible to load that config by copying the text and going to tools->paste treebuilding config

We can then try solving it locally and looking for explanation although in general case it's hard to answer the why question sometimes.

Same as with any other window in Windows, by clicking the middle button here:
https://gyazo.com/7c268e069be661496de8d2504071f7e8

If it doesn't move maybe the whole PioViewer window is too small or resolution of your display doesn't allow for more space.