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Old 09-20-2017, 09:06 AM   #3026
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Again, it's hard to say without seeing the config
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:50 AM   #3027
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

hey punter, is there a way to run one script after another without having to manually click on it after the first is done?
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Old 09-20-2017, 03:28 PM   #3028
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Right, I haven't noticed before.
As to the spot in question: it makes sense to fold 50%+ of hands against an overbet. The opponent doesn't have a lot of bluffs but their value range is 22/AQ/KQ (https://gyazo.com/b42ba78b7f4caa3a45cea54c57329527) and against that Qx has better equity than AQ/KQ so that's why AQ/KQ sometimes fold but lower queens don't.

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hey punter, is there a way to run one script after another without having to manually click on it after the first is done?
Yes, you have to combine scripts. The way to do it is described in the Skype group FAQ here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...=h.cnb4hjen5qo
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:13 PM   #3029
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Using the option to open range explorer in a new tab rather than new window it does not copy the ranges or flop that I'm viewing. Needs to be done manually.
When 'open in new window' is used it behaves correct.
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Old Yesterday, 03:01 AM   #3030
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Using the option to open range explorer in a new tab rather than new window it does not copy the ranges or flop that I'm viewing. Needs to be done manually.
When 'open in new window' is used it behaves correct.
I am confirming this is a bug. It will be fixed in the next release.
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Old Yesterday, 06:41 AM   #3031
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Is it possible to choose multiple turn cards and node lock them with the desired strategy?
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As of right now you would need to lock them all individually which is likely more effort than it's worth.
I would like to stand side by side with this guy and others who want this feature very much. In my games there are too many opps who bet turn/river very specifically.
Also /here/ you mentioned that for now there isn't much you can do when it comes to that, but there will be more tools to develop exploitive strategies in the future.
I really want to hope future is coming.

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Old Yesterday, 07:18 AM   #3032
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Right, I haven't noticed before.
As to the spot in question: it makes sense to fold 50%+ of hands against an overbet. The opponent doesn't have a lot of bluffs but their value range is 22/AQ/KQ (https://gyazo.com/b42ba78b7f4caa3a45cea54c57329527) and against that Qx has better equity than AQ/KQ so that's why AQ/KQ sometimes fold but lower queens don't.



Yes, you have to combine scripts. The way to do it is described in the Skype group FAQ here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...=h.cnb4hjen5qo
Thanks for the help. I tried doing this, created 4 scripts, named them all : script1.txt, script2.txt etc. saved them all to the same folder, then I created another script with the following content:

load_script script1.txt
load_script script2.txt
load_script script3.txt
load_script script4.txt

once I try to run this script I just get ERROR: script1.txt couldnt open file.

What did I do wrong?
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Old Yesterday, 07:32 AM   #3033
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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once I try to run this script I just get ERROR: script1.txt couldnt open file.

What did I do wrong?
The paths are relative to the place where the solver executable is. That means that you need to either:

1)Put them all in the solver's directory
2)Use full paths, like this:

load_script "C:\myscripts\script1.txt"
load_script "C:\myscripts\script2.txt"
load_script "C:\myscripts\script3.txt"
load_script "C:\myscripts\script4.txt"

Assuming of course that they are located in C:\myscripts folder.
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Old Yesterday, 10:45 AM   #3034
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Using PioSOLVER with 8GB RAM on MB Pro. Rent Virtual Machine?

Hey guys, as the title suggests I want to use PioSOLVER on my MacBook Pro, which only has 8GB of RAM (and can't be upgraded any further). AFAIK, this isn't enough to run more complicated simulations; furthermore, I'd have to use Parallels or Boot Camp to run PioSOLVER.

Do any of you know whether it's possible (and not immensly time-consuming) to rent a virtual Windows machine and run PioSOLVER on there? I've done some research and Amazon seems to have decent offers, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how any of this works (that is, I don't even know how to run a program on a virtual machine set up via some online provider).

Any feedback would be very welcome!
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Old Yesterday, 11:00 AM   #3035
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Do any of you know whether it's possible (and not immensly time-consuming) to rent a virtual Windows machine and run PioSOLVER on there? I've done some research and Amazon seems to have decent offers, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how any of this works (that is, I don't even know how to run a program on a virtual machine set up via some online provider).

Any feedback would be very welcome!
I'm running AWS on a Mac. You set it up (Creating an AWS Account), connect via Microsoft Remote Desktop (free in App Store), and you get a Windows desktop up in a program window, and from there on it's just like working on any other Windows PC. I use dropbox to transfer files back and forth between the virtual machine and my Mac.

You should also check out OVH. If you need big crunch power occasionally, AWS is good, because it lets you change machine configuration in an instant. But if you just need a steady 24/7 workhorse with moderate power (i.e. if you're not doing pre flop solving), OVH is probably better value for you.
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Old Yesterday, 11:41 AM   #3036
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Hi, I just started using a machine with 20 cores to run scripts. When I open task manager I notice that I'm only using 40% cpu. Pio is configured to use the max number of threads available, so I'm not sure why I'm not using more capacity.

Fwiw, the trees I'm running are not big (300mb), and maybe don't gain anything from using more threads?
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Old Yesterday, 01:33 PM   #3037
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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I'm running AWS on a Mac. You set it up (Creating an AWS Account), connect via Microsoft Remote Desktop (free in App Store), and you get a Windows desktop up in a program window, and from there on it's just like working on any other Windows PC. I use dropbox to transfer files back and forth between the virtual machine and my Mac.
Thank you for mentioning it. I am not a Mac user myself so I wasn't sure if it's easy to use Remote Desktop with Windows on a Mac.

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You should also check out OVH. If you need big crunch power occasionally, AWS is good, because it lets you change machine configuration in an instant. But if you just need a steady 24/7 workhorse with moderate power (i.e. if you're not doing pre flop solving), OVH is probably better value for you.
AWS is not really suitable for our licensing system (unless it's an edge version and you are willing to go through deactivation before closing the VM every time). The reason for that is that you get new hardware every time you start a VM and that sets our licensing system off. Dedicated servers are a better option, outside ovh there are online.net as well as a service run by one of our users:
http://getmypio.com/

(we are not affiliated with any of those services nor are we providing support for them, they all have their own processes, offerings and support to help you).

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Hi, I just started using a machine with 20 cores to run scripts. When I open task manager I notice that I'm only using 40% cpu. Pio is configured to use the max number of threads available, so I'm not sure why I'm not using more capacity.
If it's a pro version then it's limited to 16 cores which would explain 40% thing. If it's an edge version please verify that:

1)Energy saving settings are off (balanced is not good, it needs to be completely off)
2)No 3rd party antivirus is eating the resources or interfering with the solver
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Old Yesterday, 09:57 PM   #3038
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Does pio store some files in windows temp folders? I tried moving user variables TEMP and TMP, as well as system variables TEMP and TMP to my ram drive, and am having some issues with piosolver when browsing strategy + ev. Setting them back to their default directories of "C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp" & "C:\Windows\Temp" fixed the issue.
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Old Today, 03:47 AM   #3039
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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Does pio store some files in windows temp folders? I tried moving user variables TEMP and TMP, as well as system variables TEMP and TMP to my ram drive, and am having some issues with piosolver when browsing strategy + ev. Setting them back to their default directories of "C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp" & "C:\Windows\Temp" fixed the issue.
Maybe w bit more detailed information would help, can we move it to PMs/Skype (pm me, if you don't have me there yet) as the discussion is a bit technical and not relevant to the general use of the solver.
We don't think we write anything to TEMP right now from PioViewer (and definitely not from the solver) but maybe our licensing library does. In the future it's likely PioViewer will use TEMP folders. They are expected to be available for Windows programs.
Our updater uses TEMP as well. Of course anything that is in TEMP is safe to remove, the folder is there to create temporary files.

Changing paths shouldn't have any adverse effects btw. Applications shouldn't hardcode paths to TEMP but use Windows API functions to write there (which provide the path according to system settings).
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Old Today, 08:57 AM   #3040
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

while using scripting pio uses only a fraction of cpu. How can i force it to use it all?

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Old Today, 09:40 AM   #3041
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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while using scripting pio uses only a fraction of cpu. How can i force it to use it all?
You are using Jesolver here, not Pio so you should ask Oskari.
Anyway, what task manager shows as % CPU usage is misleading on CPUs with hyperthreading. Short version is this: first 50% is responsible for 85% of the performance and and anything over 50% is responsible for 15% of the performance. That means that 68% usage is close to 100%. It's completely normal. Sometimes CPU usage goes down as well for tasks like savings or creating a new tree.
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Old Today, 10:57 AM   #3042
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Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

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If it's a pro version then it's limited to 16 cores which would explain 40% thing. If it's an edge version please verify that:

1)Energy saving settings are off (balanced is not good, it needs to be completely off)
2)No 3rd party antivirus is eating the resources or interfering with the solver
Thanks. Your first suggestion, switching power settings from balanced to high performance solved the problem.
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