Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Commercial Software Discussion of commercial gambling-related / poker software & commercial graphics modifications

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-15-2017, 01:59 AM   #2576
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
I get you can't use pio solver while playing. But can you play while a script is running and pio solver is closed?
Not on PokeStars or FullTilt as they specifically requested the measures.

Quote:
I'm running 1.9.2.0, but the problem has occurred before as well so doubt that's issue. I changed the path but still same problem.
I doubt it's the issue as well although updating to the newest version is always a good idea.
How many files do you have in the folder which is causing the problem? If it's practical to send them/make them available on google drive or something let me know (preferably by pms). It does look like some local problem though, for example some program blocking access to the files (like antivirus running a scan or something).
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 08:03 PM   #2577
tobakudan
grinder
 
tobakudan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Japan
Posts: 443
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Originally Posted by punter11235 View Post
How many files do you have in the folder which is causing the problem? If it's practical to send them/make them available on google drive or something let me know (preferably by pms). It does look like some local problem though, for example some program blocking access to the files (like antivirus running a scan or something).
The aggregation will be working for a while, for like 90 flops or so, then suddenly a seemingly random flop will be pointed out as invalid (but when I go and open that flop file there's no problem). I actually sent the files to a friend and had him try aggregation, but he had the same problem, so seems like the files are the problem. It's 184 flops but they are micro saves so should be small enough. I'll PM you with a link.
tobakudan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 05:08 AM   #2578
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
The aggregation will be working for a while, for like 90 flops or so, then suddenly a seemingly random flop will be pointed out as invalid
It turned out the reason for that is that some of the flops were run using the preflop solver and others were run using the postflop solver. Unfortunately that won't work with report aggregation right now.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 05:18 AM   #2579
fritzlm
newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 34
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Is there a way to node lock in scripts ? I would like to force a player to overfold on the flop. To do that I currently node lock on a specific tree, making combos that are call/raise less than 30% being folded.

I guess there is a way to do that in script on multiple boards but couldn't find how.
fritzlm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 09:14 AM   #2580
TRNSLTR
centurion
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ventspils, Latvia
Posts: 132
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

I moved pio from the old pc to a new one. Deactivated the old one, installed the new one. When I first opened it, it didn't ask for a serial, only to choose a solver to connect to. How can I check if I'm registered or not?
TRNSLTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 10:14 AM   #2581
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Is there a way to node lock in scripts ? I would like to force a player to overfold on the flop. To do that I currently node lock on a specific tree, making combos that are call/raise less than 30% being folded.
It's not possible at the moment.

Quote:
When I first opened it, it didn't ask for a serial, only to choose a solver to connect to. How can I check if I'm registered or not?
Is it possible Pio was installed on this PC before? If so the license is likely still active and if it was Pio from a different person you will run into licensing problems now.
Anyway, follow those steps:

1)Go to solver->connect choose PioSOLVER-pro19.exe (or equivalent for basic/edge version)

2)If it connects (you will see a message at the bottom of the window: "connected to..") then try running any tree, if it works then everything is ok, if it crashes after a while it means there are licensing problems, go to step 3)

3)If there are licensing problems the best course of action is to deactivate the solver first, like here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (question number 3)

and then activate it using your own key. Everything should work from there.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 10:36 AM   #2582
TRNSLTR
centurion
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ventspils, Latvia
Posts: 132
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

When I was installing pio, the bitdefender tried really hard to remove/block running pio files, so while trying to find which bitdefender component to shut down i tried running one of the pio exe files from a rar downloaded from your dropbox rar (if I'm not mistaken) and that pio file opened a black window which asked for my licence code so probably that somehow registered even though I successfully installed/updated pio afterwards (using the time when pc starts up, but bitdefender hasn' t yet).

Anyhow, tried running a tree and everything seemed to work, so I guess it' s fine, hopefully.
TRNSLTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 12:46 PM   #2583
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
so probably that somehow registered even though I successfully installed/updated pio afterwards (using the time when pc starts up, but bitdefender hasn' t yet).
Yes, the license is system wise and likely survived. There is nothing to worry about.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2017, 11:22 PM   #2584
Ingenol
centurion
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: DC
Posts: 136
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

How many PCs can an edge license be used on concurrently?
Ingenol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2017, 03:12 AM   #2585
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
How many PCs can an edge license be used on concurrently?
Two at the same time. You can also move it from computer to computer without any limits.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2017, 10:25 AM   #2586
Randomiz3r
stranger
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5
Lightbulb Board texture graphics

Hi.

Is it possible to resize and make this portion more easy to read?
It would be great to have bigger board texture (sorry if it has already been asked)

Thanks.

EDIT: <<<<<<<<mmm sorry, seems I can't post the relative image :/
EDIT#2: Ok done.

http://imgur.com/8gU90zN
Randomiz3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2017, 02:19 PM   #2587
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Is it possible to resize and make this portion more easy to read?
It would be great to have bigger board texture (sorry if it has already been asked)
I am sorry but this is very unlikely to happen. There are too many feature requests and small visual improvements are first to be rejected.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2017, 05:37 PM   #2588
Randomiz3r
stranger
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Originally Posted by punter11235 View Post
I am sorry but this is very unlikely to happen. There are too many feature requests and small visual improvements are first to be rejected.
Sick.

I understand.

Thanks.
Randomiz3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2017, 11:57 PM   #2589
znzznz
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 68
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

sometimes when running the % jump everywhere, like it'll say exploitable for 2%, then 4% then down to 1%, then up to 2%, etc. is something wrong?
znzznz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2017, 01:02 AM   #2590
tobakudan
grinder
 
tobakudan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Japan
Posts: 443
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Is it possible to modify a script to calculate multiple flops with different configurations?

If not, is it possible to, after scripting and calculating flops with different configurations, use them all in a single aggregation analysis? (In other words, I want to choose optimal bet sizing for flop texture first, then run turn/river aggregation for all of those together.)
tobakudan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2017, 07:59 AM   #2591
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
sometimes when running the % jump everywhere, like it'll say exploitable for 2%, then 4% then down to 1%, then up to 2%, etc. is something wrong?
It happens when the tree is difficult for the solver. Usually inclusion of big overbets causes this as the current algorithm doesn't handle those very well. It's a good idea to remove most of them, especially on the flop (where they are not used anyway).

Quote:
Is it possible to modify a script to calculate multiple flops with different configurations?
See the Skype group FAQ, here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.g7mc8bun7z1o

ctrl+f for "scripting", point 2.

Quote:
use them all in a single aggregation analysis? (In other words, I want to choose optimal bet sizing for flop texture first, then run turn/river aggregation for all of those together.)
I don't understand why you would like to do that. Once the sizes are different the ranges at the point of aggregation will be different as well. Comparing EVs or frequencies in such case makes very little sense. It makes sense to compare EVs at root to determine which sizing is better but you don't need an aggregation report for that.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2017, 08:34 PM   #2592
tobakudan
grinder
 
tobakudan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Japan
Posts: 443
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Originally Posted by punter11235 View Post
I don't understand why you would like to do that. Once the sizes are different the ranges at the point of aggregation will be different as well. Comparing EVs or frequencies in such case makes very little sense. It makes sense to compare EVs at root to determine which sizing is better but you don't need an aggregation report for that.
Even if you use the same configuration for all flops, ranges will be different by turns rivers due to turn and river cards. But in any case, I don't want to vary the ranges - those will remain constant. All I want to change is flop bet sizing.

I want to find aggregate frequencies for database analysis - to see whether a population double barrels too often or not, for example. I just want to frequencies to reflect optimal flop sizings and not best average sizing for all flops, or have to use a bunch of sizings to cover all flops and make the solutions less clean.
tobakudan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2017, 03:33 AM   #2593
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
I want to find aggregate frequencies for database analysis - to see whether a population double barrels too often or not, for example. I just want to frequencies to reflect optimal flop sizings and not best average sizing for all flops, or have to use a bunch of sizings to cover all flops and make the solutions less clean.
That makes sense if you are just going to look at frequencies.
The problem with running such report is that the weights of flops are read from script file and they are important.
I think it's the best to run the reports separately and then weight yourself although that will require some manual work, programming or a clever Excel spreadsheet.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2017, 03:36 AM   #2594
hiiamfish
newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 22
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Hi, i kept getting this error code 1. is anyone else experiencing the same thing? http://imgur.com/N4c31uA

I have link an image of the error in case in case there is any mistake i made. The solver only works when there is no raises sizes.
hiiamfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2017, 04:32 AM   #2595
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Hi, i kept getting this error code 1. is anyone else experiencing the same thing? http://imgur.com/N4c31uA
Those are licensing problems. It happens when:

1)You've used files from someone else and your key
2)You've used your files and someone's else key
3)You had Pio from someone else installed before, you bought yours but as the license is system wide it's still there

3) is the most common occurence. What you can do to fix it is this:

1)Deactivate the solver, like here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (question number 3)
2)Run it again and insert your key

That will of course only work if you are using your own personal link to install the solver.
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2017, 06:21 AM   #2596
hiiamfish
newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 22
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Originally Posted by punter11235 View Post
Those are licensing problems. It happens when:

1)You've used files from someone else and your key
2)You've used your files and someone's else key
3)You had Pio from someone else installed before, you bought yours but as the license is system wide it's still there

3) is the most common occurence. What you can do to fix it is this:

1)Deactivate the solver, like here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (question number 3)
2)Run it again and insert your key

That will of course only work if you are using your own personal link to install the solver.

Thank you so much
hiiamfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2017, 03:48 PM   #2597
DaFooFighter
centurion
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 159
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Hello there,

I just started my way with Pio and unfortunately my current system configuration is not powerful enough to make using the software as fast as needed. Here it is: Dell OptiPlex 7010, HARD DRIVE, 320GB, P11, 7.2K, 2.5, MX320-1, PROCESSOR, IVB, I5-3470S, 2.9, 4C, N0, L, 2x8GB RAM. I am looking into cloud instances and would like to know what kind of components should I be a looking for. I guess we need a compute optimizing one? Could someone who has more knowledge give me a minimum requirements for a system, that of course would be better from my current one, please? Any info is appreciated. Ty
DaFooFighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2017, 04:33 PM   #2598
punter11235
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: solving poker
Posts: 6,845
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Quote:
Here it is: Dell OptiPlex 7010, HARD DRIVE, 320GB, P11, 7.2K, 2.5, MX320-1, PROCESSOR, IVB, I5-3470S, 2.9, 4C, N0, L, 2x8GB RAM
To be honest it's not clear from this description what kind of CPU it is. You can find the name in control panel->system->system

It's difficult to say what you should look for to get faster calculations wihtout the information about the current CPU (I need exact name).
punter11235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2017, 04:45 PM   #2599
DaFooFighter
centurion
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 159
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

Sorry, I copied that directly from the Dell support site.

Here you go: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470S CPU @2.9GHz, 16 GB RAM, 64-bit
DaFooFighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2017, 08:17 PM   #2600
The Face
centurion
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 158
Re: PioSOLVER - postflop equilibrium solver for Holdem

I am looking to purchase pio - edge version.

i was told a ton of stuff about dedicated servers and cloud instances and stuff that i have no clue about.

i tried to do some looking into and the services that offer that are like $80-300/mo

does anyone have any experience setting these up? or rent cloud instances somewhere at an hourly rate instead of monthly?

I dont know what the next step is to get this software setup. Unsure where to even go from here.
The Face is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online