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04-17-2018 , 08:42 AM
How can I download version 1.9.2? I never had problems with this version
The versions 1.10.15 and 1.10.16 do not stop giving me problems https://gyazo.com/4fc84c374a867af27732fcb538f42d19 . I already send an email explaining the details.
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04-17-2018 , 09:53 AM
I was able to get version 1.9.

when trying to install it, he tells me that my 2 licenses are already used. Do I have to uninstall Piosolver and reinstall it?
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04-17-2018 , 05:38 PM
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How can I download version 1.9.2? I never had problems with this version
It's not longer supported.

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The versions 1.10.15 and 1.10.16 do not stop giving me problems https://gyazo.com/4fc84c374a867af27732fcb538f42d19 . I already send an email explaining the details.
Yes, we are working on it. Bugs happen. Thank you for your report.

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when trying to install it, he tells me that my 2 licenses are already used. Do I have to uninstall Piosolver and reinstall it?
It won't work because the licensing system got updated as well and the new version is sadly not fully compatible with the old one. We have no control over it as we use 3rd party library for licensing.
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04-18-2018 , 03:57 AM
Thinking of buying external SSD (or internal and put it in external case).
Anyway.. would it work well if I would save trees through USB if pio would be installed on main SSD in computer? Would saving big trees (~1.5gb) through USB 3.0 be slowed down? What about when opening tree? I guess if connection is through thunderbolt 3 usb c it should be fast?
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04-18-2018 , 06:26 AM
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Anyway.. would it work well if I would save trees through USB if pio would be installed on main SSD in computer? Would saving big trees (~1.5gb) through USB 3.0 be slowed down? What about when opening tree? I guess if connection is through thunderbolt 3 usb c it should be fast?
To be honest I have no idea how fast it is. It sounds like a question for some kind of hardware forums. Probably other people have way more experience with copying/loading files to/from external SSD. My intuition is that if you are loading small saves it should be fast enough but you shouldn't rely on my intuition on this one
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04-18-2018 , 06:45 AM
Doesn't matter.. ordered it already

Now I'm not sure between intel or AMD. I remember you saying that hyperthreding is 15-20% faster. Hyperthreading is intel's technology and i7 has it while i5 doesn't.
AMD's technology is called SMT and ryzens I look for have it (ryzen 5 1600 or new ryzen 5 2600). Does pio supports it or it only supports intel's hyperthreading?

Sorry for bothering
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04-18-2018 , 08:39 AM
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AMD's technology is called SMT and ryzens I look for have it (ryzen 5 1600 or new ryzen 5 2600). Does pio supports it or it only supports intel's hyperthreading?
Yes, it will work. Modern AMD cores (Ryzen/ThreadRipper) are about 5% slower than new Intel cores with hyperthreading according to some benchmarks I've seen.
In general AMD is much better performance/price ratio but you have to be careful when choosing components as there are many unstable builds around.
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04-19-2018 , 10:45 AM
Solving tree in one PC
Wanting to open it with another PC

Nothing to do with preflop, pure post-flop solution.
Any idea what may cause it?
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04-19-2018 , 07:17 PM
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Nothing to do with preflop, pure post-flop solution.
Any idea what may cause it?
It shouldn't happen in 1.10 anymore so please update to that.
The most likey reason is that you have a newer version on one computer than on the other.
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04-20-2018 , 05:26 AM
I just bought pio pro 2 days ago but Im having trouble node locking specific hands As5s etc. I can only change the range by 1 pair hands, 2 pair hands, 4 hand straight hands etc. Is it possible to node lock single hand combos?
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04-20-2018 , 05:46 AM
I recently start using PIO solver and watched a few tutorials. While using PIO to do a hand review, I often see that premium card such as AA,KK... are not included in the range - can someone explain me why?
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04-20-2018 , 05:58 AM
Also can I relocate pio from C: drive to D: drive by reinstalling pio without losing my key/subscription?
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04-20-2018 , 06:00 AM
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I just bought pio pro 2 days ago but Im having trouble node locking specific hands As5s etc. I can only change the range by 1 pair hands, 2 pair hands, 4 hand straight hands etc. Is it possible to node lock single hand combos?
I am not sure what you mean by 2 pair hands, 4 hand straight etc.
You can lock a single combo using suit selection tool, here:
https://gyazo.com/0ba46ec52110b98f40cc610120f9576d

If you want to lock just this combo make sure to select combo-locking as well, like here:
https://gyazo.com/97d79c6498509fc06c9509f30e28defc

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I recently start using PIO solver and watched a few tutorials. While using PIO to do a hand review, I often see that premium card such as AA,KK... are not included in the range - can someone explain me why?
Probably because those are single raised pots and AA/KK are out for OOP player as they would 3bet so they are not in the calling range.
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04-20-2018 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by matmuay
I recently start using PIO solver and watched a few tutorials. While using PIO to do a hand review, I often see that premium card such as AA,KK... are not included in the range - can someone explain me why?
Because the range is probably a defending range where you know AA,KK etc will be 3 betted preflop so therfor it wont exist in the postflop single raised defending range.
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04-20-2018 , 11:04 AM
Can you make the solver calculate an equilibrium where a hand combo will always be either a check or a bet. For example if I solve a HU spot, solver will mix up most hand combos to be both a check and bet with different frequencies. But is it possible if I want it to show a equilibrium where solver has a fixed range that always will bet and a fixed range that always will check?
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04-20-2018 , 12:27 PM
Im using a i7 8700k with a cooler master 212 evo and its temperature rises to 75 degrees C immediately and stabilizes there when running a simulation. Also when I ran 2 scripts of 4 flops (around 2gb each) the temp was exceeding 80 degrees C for a brief second. Is this a problem and should I invest in a water cooler?
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04-20-2018 , 02:16 PM
If I have a script running for 0.4% of pot accuracy, why does the script keep running past this? I have noticed this a few times now. Also, is there anyway I can stop the script that's running and extract the data? I have a job running for ages which is exploitable for 0.182 for ages now and Id like to just save the file if possible?

Also, if I edit the scrip generation area while the script is running, do these changes kick in?

btw, I never build a tree before I run a script, I just configure, add flops I want, generate script and run. That ok?

Any feedback on this appreciated.

Thanks for your time.
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04-20-2018 , 02:56 PM
So I found this in the script file in my folder "set_accuracy 0.112000", no idea why its there as I have set the sim to stop at 0.4% of pot accuracy. Can I edit the script file in my folder while a script is running? So if I went in and changed this and saved the script file, would that stop and save my sim?
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04-20-2018 , 03:20 PM
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Im using a i7 8700k with a cooler master 212 evo and its temperature rises to 75 degrees C immediately and stabilizes there when running a simulation. Also when I ran 2 scripts of 4 flops (around 2gb each) the temp was exceeding 80 degrees C for a brief second. Is this a problem and should I invest in a water cooler?
it's normal.. try running some cpu benchmarks and check temperatures

@punter:

What about renting server (I have pio pro). I have never done that.. is it possible that I rent server, install pio on it and have free access, put scripts to run while I'm not online on server etc..? I don't really understand how the whole thing with server works. Would I need server that has windows os? Any suggestions?
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04-21-2018 , 03:09 AM
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Can you make the solver calculate an equilibrium where a hand combo will always be either a check or a bet.
This is not that easy. You can round current solutions to 0/1 but this will end up being terribly exploitable. There is likely a way to produce better solutions using 0/1 weights but this is not an easy problem to solve. One naive attempt I made some time ago failed. Maybe it's just nature of the game that strategies without mixing are exploitable. That would be in line with intuition many human players developed over the years: you have to mix it to be less readable.

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Im using a i7 8700k with a cooler master 212 evo and its temperature rises to 75 degrees C immediately and stabilizes there when running a simulation. Also when I ran 2 scripts of 4 flops (around 2gb each) the temp was exceeding 80 degrees C for a brief second. Is this a problem and should I invest in a water cooler?
Those are acceptable temperatures but I feel you should be able to get it lower even with better air cooling, especially if it's not an overclocked machine.

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If I have a script running for 0.4% of pot accuracy, why does the script keep running past this?
It almost surely doesn't continue past this. It's very likely misunderstanding of units EV is displayed in or a mistake made when generating the script.
Looking at your other comment:

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So I found this in the script file in my folder "set_accuracy 0.112000", no idea why its there as I have set the sim to stop at 0.4% of pot accuracy.
set_accuracy command accepts accuracy in chips. It means the starting pot is 28 chips, 28 * 0.4% = 0.112
We translate that for you from the graphical interface to the language the solver accepts.

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Can I edit the script file in my folder while a script is running?
It won't affect already running script.

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So if I went in and changed this and saved the script file, would that stop and save my sim?
It's impossible to do that sadly. That's why there is "timeout" field. You can specifiy maximum amount of time you want a tree to run before it's saved.

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I have never done that.. is it possible that I rent server, install pio on it and have free access, put scripts to run while I'm not online on server etc..? I don't really understand how the whole thing with server works. Would I need server that has windows os? Any suggestions?
A server is just another computer. You can run Pio on that computer the same way you run it on yours. It will require activation there. You can communicate with that computer using Remote Desktop interface (built-in in most versions of Windows). The way it works is that you have another window on your computer with server "inside". You can even copy-paste from one to the other.
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04-21-2018 , 03:54 AM
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A server is just another computer. You can run Pio on that computer the same way you run it on yours. It will require activation there. You can communicate with that computer using Remote Desktop interface (built-in in most versions of Windows). The way it works is that you have another window on your computer with server "inside". You can even copy-paste from one to the other.
Ok sounds great. Do you have and recommendations of website? There are so many, I have no idea how to choose.

Last edited by VeryBadThings; 04-21-2018 at 04:10 AM.
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04-21-2018 , 04:48 AM
Also, what os does pio support?
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04-21-2018 , 08:10 AM
1 -Hey, I was trying to understand more about river bets and I started to make toy games on piosolver starting on the river situation. On my mind I should value bet a hand on the river when I have more than 50% equity against villain call's range, so I started to do it on pio and I see that is true when I don't allow villain to check/raise on the river, when I allow villain to check/raise on the river, the things seems to be a little different and I didn't get the pattern involved, on how pio decides to value bet or not. Because against the same range when I allow to check/raise he prefers to check the entire range and when I don't allow check/raise he prefers to bet, it is a little obvious but I didn't get what he compares, like in first case I see the equity and I know why and the second case I don't know what is.

2 - Does the last version 1.10.15 ? Because I updated my piosolver and it is showing on the bottom version 1.10.14.

Thanks
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04-21-2018 , 01:00 PM
Ok, thanks for feedback.
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04-21-2018 , 01:12 PM
I'm going to buy preflop solver within few coming days - it's either simple postflop for $299 or piosolver edge for $1099.

What makes piosolver 3,67x pricier and 3,67x better than simple postflop?

Is it more accurate gto? Is it that much faster?

Is it possible to get like 7 days trial for preflop solver and compare it myself?
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