It's EV of the most exploitive strategy against current equilibrium approximation of the opponet expressed in chips per hand. It's always equal or higher of what EV of current equilibirum approximation is. This follows from the definition of equilibrium: "no player can increase their EV by changing their strategy if the strategy of opposings player(s) remains the same".

The comparison of how much MES wins per hand vs what current strategy wins per hand results in "exploitability" that is how much a player who knows our strategy exactly and adjusts perfectly wins against us per hand assuming we play current equilibrium approximation the solver produced.

I'm thinking of getting PIO Edge. I would like to konw the minimun requirements to use it with ease on my PC.

I think I've answered your email already but just in case, here is the FAQ:
https://www.piosolver.com/pages/faq (question number 9)

Hi,

Aiming to make the learning of ranges more accessible, I wanna know if I could use the round strategies option by choosing Round of multiplies by 1/1.

When I make it, i get from "Exploitable for 0,8% of the pot per hand"
to "Exploitable for 14,7% of the pot per hand".

Is that number really that significant ?

How far do most of you use this option ?

You can do it but sadly those ranges are pretty useless.

Yes, strategies without mixing are very exploitable.

It's a good question for our Skype group, maybe you get some insights. My view is that the option should be used with extreme care and preferably avoided altogether as the more you round the more you lose from the solution.

Thanks for your quick respond.

I am still a bit confused of how making such kind of ranges learnable.

For example :



Even with tight 15% range vs 15% range at a single board, we have soooo many combos to mix with frequencies from 0.2 to 0.8. Is it really doable for humans ?

You cal lear these ranges by feel. There is no way to remember it all. Pio is tool for getting some equilibrium ideas, just to get idea how one gto spot looks like

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It isn't. Fortunately exact strategies doesn't matter that much. What counts is range composition (how many value bets, bluffs, which combos bet more often than others etc.). EV of plays matters as well (it's important not ot make blunders, less important to mix exactly as GTO is). The reason it's more important to focus on general range composition and EVs is that there are many strategies which are very close to GTO with different kind of mixing.

My view is that the following are useful when analyzing the solution:

1)Look at the range composition (Range Explorer is useful for that) determine how many very strong hands there are, how many pure bluffs, how many semibluffs. Compare betting range to checking range.

2)Look how the solver defends against common bluff lines. For example if you check behind the flop and the opponent bets both turn and river, how do you ensure you are not folding too much there, what are the calling hands the solver carries?

3)Consider the raising range composition, what are the hands there besides the nuts which are useful to have?

4)Check what plays are blunders, that is especially important against a bet as it's important not to fold too much.

5)On later streets try to find and get intuition for what is a good value bet (how strong the hand needs to be) and how tight you need to defend. Once you have good intuition about that you can make adjustments based on reads but it's very hard to make adjustmetns if you don't know what the neutral GTO play is in the first place

There are many other things you things and patterns you may try to find in the solutions. Learning frequencies by heart just won't work though. That's not Pio's fault either, it's just how optimal play is, there is a lot of mixing, especially on early streets when not facing a bet.

Thanks for your answer, I'm gonna work this way ;-)

Got a problem with aggragated reports, it's columns are not lining up correctly in excel:

Its csv? Try text to colums (google it)

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This is a bug in Excel (or other program you are using). I've explained it here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1666

I have been trying to download the preflop solves from the piocloud for like a month now. Will they be fixed? Are they available from somewhere else?

Probably won't be available form somewhere else as rehosting takes a lot of time.
Anyway, the download links works right now (I've just tried from another location). There are breaks sometimes due to download limits on Dropbox but it does work most of the time.

Does The "Max. number of threads" setting work during the execution of a script?

I have a 6 core 12 threads cpu and during the execution of a script even if I set "Max. Number of thread" to 2 or 4 I still always see the 12 threads in load.

Those settings are part of the script. During script generation they are copied from your settings to the script. This means that once it's in the script it will always be like that when you run this script.
Fortunately it's easy to change, just open the script in the text editor (for example notepad) and look at the very first line not commented (that is not starting with #) line there. When you restart the script it will use the new settings.

I can’t find anything nearly as cheap as the memory listed above.
But anyway, when I pick my 128gb sticks. Do I need to select one that says it is specifically for amd boards?
Large amount of them say for intel x99 setup ups, including lot of G.skills


Sorry, what I mean is, Most of them say for intel or don’t specify.

I am not a hardware expert so make sure to confirm this: you don't need RAM specifically for AMD CPUs, just make sure it's on the list for recommended one for a particular motherboard. It's the best to search for "recommended RAM for AMD Ryzen or ThreaRipper" on hardware forums.

hi new to pio, need some help
can someone please check and answer me am I setting sims correct so i can get correct results

so i want here is ex. i want to check GTO lines for 35bb ef stacks in single raised pot (~6bb including antes and raises) (MP vs BB)
here are the ranges for MP(INP) and BB (OP)

i want to set this variables
on FLOP
BB will ch 100%, MP i want to have option to Cbet 33% or 67%pot BB will have option to raise 3,5x of Cbetisize or to call if BB x/r 3,5x MP has option to reraise 3x

on TURN i want to give option if MP (INP) bet BB (OOP) to ch 100 if MP ch on flop i want to give option to BB to lead 33% or 80%, if MP bets flop his continue betsing are 33,55,80 also i want to give option for BB to raise and oprion to MP to reraise

same assumption i give for rivers

am i puting inputs corect??


so after i put those inputs i run sim and i get this results after i click check for OOP

and this is actualy the reason why i am posting this => if i read result corectly PIO is sugesting to bet when ch to us 99% of time ( 94% of time with sizing 67% of pot and 4,5% of time 33% of pot)

are this corect results or Iam dooing smth wrong and thats why i am geting wrong results???
tx for help

Is there anyway to do overnight sims without running a script? I only have basic.

The best way to make sure others can re-run your sim is to share the exact config. The way to do that is to click "copy to clipboard" button in the treebuilding and calculation tab, paste it to pastebin.com and link here. Alternatively you can paste here directly but as those configs are quite long make sure to use [ /code ] [ code ] tags (without spaces inside).
This way others can go to Tools->Paste Treebuilding config and be sure they have the exact tree you have. Copying things from screenshot is error-prone and it's easy to miss things. For example on your screenshots I am not sure if you have used a dot "." or a comma in OOP's raise size (should be a dot, we don't accept comma as a decimal separator).

That being said, just looking at the screenshot this is expected result because IP's range has huge advantage on this board. Again, I will re-run and look at the numbers if you paste the config.

There is no way to do that. We intended pro version as our main product and a basic version as something for people who only run occasional sim. We didn't want to cripple basic version so we removed things which are useful for heavy volume usage (scripts, support for bigger machines and ability to run it on 2 computers).

I have the same problem, how did you fix it?

I have the edge version of Pio. Is it possible to purchase just one additional license for it so I could run it on 3 computers at once?

Sadly we didn't get the config from the last report so I will repeat my answer:

1)Make sure you are running the newest version (1.10.15 at the moment)
2)If the problem is still there please send the tree config and some description of what you are locking to support@piosolver.com this way we can re-run it and recreate the problem (which is necessary to understand the reasons/fix it).

Yes, see PM.

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