www.PerfectReads.com

Its a software that provides actual reads on player rather than statistics. It uses the hand histories you provide it, to analyze opponents tendencies. In addition to the standard VPIP, 3bet, etc it also provides information such as how often does opponent bet missed draws, does he 2 barrel bluff, how does he behave in multiway pots, what about on dry boards, and numerous others traits. It also filters out irrelevant statistics and tries to give the relevant information in a compact form that can be read trough in a glance. You can also you it to analysis of your own game in the same way.

The software is still very much in beta testing, so I need your feedback on it to improve it further. I will reimburse the licenses costs of those who provide the most valuable feedback. Perfect Reads currently supports Poker Stars and Full Tilt Poker, but other sites will be added in near future.

Please don't hesitate to post here any question or suggestions you may have. I hope you find the software most useful.

If someone somehow could verify the poster and the software then I would love to try it out. Have become a bit more suspicious then normal now and am a bit more careful about new software and scripts.

Some screenshots would be helpful as well.

Sound good. Have you got confirmation from the poker sites that your software is/will be allowed?

You should get someone to check the site out for spelling mistakes as it isn't very professional. You can easily just copy and paste it into Microsoft Word and do a spell check!

Done, that was a bit sloppy on my part.

As for the screenshots, Ill try to get some up asap. Atm Im writing documentation on everything, feel like that still takes a higher priority.

Definitely need to clean up some of the spelling and grammatical errors. Also the website makes it look like a scam. No offense, just my first impression.

Im a programmer, not an artist/marketing person. But working on it. Just prioritising the development of the program too high, should pay more attention to stuff like that.

Want to bet on that?

Just like its impossible to calculate ICM for multitable tournaments, sure it would have been done before if it was possible. But why am I even replying to your accusations, this is so counterproductive, just cant help myself. Goes to show why I really shouldnt be in the business of marking anything.

Anyways, since I obviously started this all wrong. Here is a link to my previous (discontinued) poker project (and website), which was discussed quite extensively here on 2+2.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...ructure-39082/

If anyone has feedback on the actual software that would be nice too (nothing wrong with bringing up the spelling mistakes etc). Here are screenshots of the program, Ill make a page on the site asap.



A simple configuration page.



A few minutes of waiting, while it processes the hands for the games you have selected.



And statistics on hero's play. It will also have added all the reads it could find on players in the notes of the poker software. In this game (PLO10) it found for example that 2674 players who where either overly agressive or overly passive on dry boards.

Luckmode is being a tad angry and dramatic but he has a point about clearing your software with the big sites. Email Stars and FTP and see what they have to say about it.

"Ruin the game" LOLaments.

I like the idea, tool looks useful imo. Hopefully it's in alpha-status when I decide to move back to FTP^^.

Luckmode, no offense, but your claims are ridiculous imo. It neither "basically plays for you" nor is it unfair, since it is available to everyone. Also, I guess it most likely will be allowed to use in-game cuz it only charts the information you collect through your own play, just like a tracker does. It just provides some new stats.

/2c

That is a quote from Full Tilt Poker website explaining what programs are legal to use. And it seems there is nothing wrong with using www.PerfectReads.com per their definition. But just to be on the safe side I have emailed them requesting an official oppinion on the matter.

Hrmph... my breakfast is all cold now Spent all morning getting the screenshots up. Ohwell, back to my plan of breakfast & HSP latest episode.

Got a reply from fulltilt. Here is the complete email, I will bolded the essential part of their response.

Could you add something that shows how much someone open limps, open limps + fold and open limp + call.

And reply just came from poker stars. Again the essential part is bolded.

Done, I will release a new version later today and it will have open limp stats, in addition to some other improvements.

And finally the important one.


Found a few bugs, like why some players didnt have notes, or why some users didnt get notes at all on poker stars. Again, any feedback on bugs or feature requests are most welcome.

can you post a sample of the actual reads this program generates

This program looks really nice, and also unique, this could become a useful tool

This does appear interesting, and is certainly quick processing hand histories.

A few quick thoughts and questions.

Digital signature cannot be verified, will put a lot of people off.

Does it reprocess hands every time you run it?

It appears a completely new player notes file is created, I can't see anyone being happy losing access to all their current notes.
Possible to retain current colours and merge notes?

I assume the averages are taken from the complete history folder?
Needs filters to be sure of comparing players and stats on a like for like basis .
I dont play cash but I guess different stakes, and stack sizes.
For tournaments, sng's, buyins, rebuy periods, satellites, turbos, bubbles, all have completely differing playing styles and statistics.

There are some players with very few hands but lots of reads,??
eg Villain 30% 52% (38) open raises too often, bets in multiway pots too often, bets postflop in position too often, + 4 more hidden reads!!!
Oddly I only seem to have 17 hands on him in my HM db, and although he is 53/35/4.0 he could just have caught some cards.
What do the two %ages indicate in the player notes?

I appreciate that analysis has to be limited for trial, but I would rather see a full analysis of a few selected players with a decent hand count, or a specific tournament, rather than having to scroll through hundreds of incomplete XML notes of every player in my histories.

folds in multiway pots - not often enough.
bluffcatches - too often.
agressive on dry boards - too often.
after others check, is agressive - too often.
3bet late position raisers - too often.
calls with weak draws - too often.
bets in multiway pots - too often.
folds to donk bet - too often.
bets postflop in position - not often enough.
open limps - too often.
raises postflop - too often.
folds to donk bet - not often enough.
after 3betting preflop, folds postflop - too often.

just to give a few examples. I picked these reads from the first few players I found with reads on them, so these are probably the most common reads in omaha. There are also reads specifically for tournament/SnG play, such as how being table chiplead or shortstack affects their play, etc.

I click on the 'Start Now' button on your web page, it downloads a 855 bytes file perfectreads.jnlp, and then I get the error message "Splash: recv failed" in a Java Web Start 1.6.0_17 dialog box.

What to do?

Ill probably purchase a (expensive) certificate within the next few days, which solves that problem.

Yes, but this will be changed in the future.

It does create a backup of the old notes, so they are not permanently lost.

Again, work in progress, it will be it possible to merge notes in some future version, hopefully soon, but I doubt the colors could be merged.

When it comes to cash games, players usually have by far most hand histories on their "bread and butter" level. So this shouldnt be a problem. But I will look into making more selective reads.

Say you see an unfamiliar player in low stakes Omaha play 3 hands, each time he 3bets preflop. Normal 3bet range is approximately 10%. What are the odds that the player happened to have top 10% hand 3 hands in a row? 1/1000. So we can clearly assume his 3bet range is wider than 10% until proven otherwise.

In other words, if player does repeatedly something that is supposed to be a rare action it doesn't require many examples to come to the conclusion that something is wrong. In any case, reads are never based on a single example and mostly not even on 2 examples of given behaviour, no matter how rare it should be.

I will probably remove the percentages, but they indicate postflop aggression (how often bets or raises) and postflop folds. The third number is how many decisions the player has made in the hands he has sofar played.

In the trial the reads that are hidden are totally random. In other words you may find players with all their reads visible. And another player with the same exact reads, but some of them hidden. I'm sure there are quite a few players with all their reads visible.