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11-18-2010 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
If you run color coding with logging enabled (file->settings->enable logging), the log file will give you a detailed rundown of why it assigned colors to each person. Just search for a name that you think has the wrong color in the log text file that will be generated in your c:\program files (x86)\NoteCaddy directory.
Sorry, but I couldn't identify the info as you mentioned, by checking the logs...

Anyway, a practical example, using default NoteCaddy color coding:

- Player X with VPIP 67, PRF 11, AGGR Factor 4.3, 3bet 0, limp 50%, in 46hands.
- As per color coding, he cannot be a "ROCK", since "ROCK" needs VPIP between 0-15% (min 30 hands), and he has 67%. But his label is yellow (ROCK).
- He could be only be a FISH (VPIP 40-100, in 20 hands)...

Any idea about this? The version running is the beta 1.09, but the same happened with 1.08.

Thanks,
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11-18-2010 , 02:15 PM
Please compress the log file and send it to support@notecaddy.com
Also, please send the names of some incorrectly labeled players. I understand you don't want to reveal screen names here but for me to help you I need real screen names
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11-18-2010 , 05:23 PM
do i have to run the auto rate within pt3 before i color code with notecaddy?
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11-18-2010 , 05:41 PM
No

Notecaddy's color coding is completely independant of pt3's
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11-23-2010 , 04:02 AM
alot of the notes have 1 number next to the note but thats not enough info. It really needs a percentage instead of number of times.
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11-23-2010 , 07:32 AM
Most of the default definitions should have two numbers (x/y) where x = # of occurrences and y = number of opportunities. When making your own definitions, you can choose how to set opportunities in the general tab. In version 1.09 (currently in beta) there is an option to show percentages.

1.09 can be downloaded from http://forums.assaultware.com/showth...?220-1.09-beta
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11-23-2010 , 03:14 PM
thanks i looked but i didnt see where the option was in the general tab
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11-23-2010 , 03:31 PM
It's in file->settings. You don't have to configure it for each note individually
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11-25-2010 , 06:17 AM
Hi Serti,

I'm just discovering NC, and I want to know if I can use it to do the following:

Believe it or not, I'm not too interested in all of the auto-generated notes...I just want an app that allows me to tag buddies in HEM, and have them automatically added to Stars/FTP/Party/whatever site's buddy list. In other words: I want to go through my HEM DB and identify, let's say, 400 fishy Stars players...now instead of going to the "Player Notes..." menu in the Stars Client and adding them manually (very tedious), what's the best way to have NC assist me in color-coding them (after I identify who they are in HEM) so that when I next log into Stars, all of them have a purple outline?

(sry, if this Q is v noob...i'm just discovering the product, and trying to figure out if it will do what I want it to)
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11-25-2010 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyFBI
Hi Serti,

I'm just discovering NC, and I want to know if I can use it to do the following:

Believe it or not, I'm not too interested in all of the auto-generated notes...I just want an app that allows me to tag buddies in HEM, and have them automatically added to Stars/FTP/Party/whatever site's buddy list. In other words: I want to go through my HEM DB and identify, let's say, 400 fishy Stars players...now instead of going to the "Player Notes..." menu in the Stars Client and adding them manually (very tedious), what's the best way to have NC assist me in color-coding them (after I identify who they are in HEM) so that when I next log into Stars, all of them have a purple outline?

(sry, if this Q is v noob...i'm just discovering the product, and trying to figure out if it will do what I want it to)
Are you identifying people based on intuitive criteria or something that can be defined explicitly?

You can go to "tools->color coding->manual" and type a player name, then set his color from NC without having PokerStars open.

However, if you're trying to do something like "any player with VPIP > 40" etc then you can just create rules in "tools->color coding" and have NC auto generate the colors for you.

I'm also a little confused about your use of the term "buddy list". Hopefully I answered your question though. I do suggest you also look at the note definition scripting though since it may be more useful than you think
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11-26-2010 , 11:23 AM
NC is not working with Ongame and Boss media for me.
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11-26-2010 , 12:32 PM
Did it ever work? Are you using pt3 or hem? What happens if you copy paste a ongame or boss hand history into the test environment?
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11-26-2010 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Did it ever work? Are you using pt3 or hem? What happens if you copy paste a ongame or boss hand history into the test environment?
I just installed Boss Ongame and Party(doesnt work either) today. The "older" rooms like FT still work properly.

I use HEM.

Ongame:
When I click run in the test enviroment a pop up appears with a long number like "1652823641297151". When I click OK in this popup the normal results appear at the right side of the window("Hand", "Players" with their sub categories).

Boss:
I get an error message. With a different HH I get a different error message(in german).

Party:
Couldnt test it cause the HHs are really weird. Got them from the HEM processed folder but the files are empty or contain no real HHs.

All hands from all 3 rooms got imported properly into HEM though.
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11-26-2010 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Are you identifying people based on intuitive criteria or something that can be defined explicitly?

You can go to "tools->color coding->manual" and type a player name, then set his color from NC without having PokerStars open.

However, if you're trying to do something like "any player with VPIP > 40" etc then you can just create rules in "tools->color coding" and have NC auto generate the colors for you.

I'm also a little confused about your use of the term "buddy list". Hopefully I answered your question though. I do suggest you also look at the note definition scripting though since it may be more useful than you think
Oops, you're right: forget I used the term "buddy list". Here's the functionality I want, and I'd love to know whether you think NC will help me accomplish it faster.

Basically, I just want to use HEM to manually identify fish (i.e. without using any sort of predefined criteria "like VPIP > 40"), and then have them color-coded in purple. I don't actually keep NOTES on any of them in the Stars client...I just like seeing them highlighted in purple so I know where they are.

Up to this point, I've been opening HEM and doing some basic filtering searches to identify fish...I probably identify about 100 every couple weeks...and then opening up the Stars client, and going to Options...Player Notes...Add >> and typing in the names of the fish that I've found. This is a tedious process.

Is there any way that NC can help me automate this? I can very easily use HEM to generate a list of fish (and even export them to a Notepad .txt file if I want)...I just want to know the best way to color-code them in Stars (i.e. without having to individually type each screename in).
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11-26-2010 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HPR1978
I just installed Boss Ongame and Party(doesnt work either) today. The "older" rooms like FT still work properly.

I use HEM.

Ongame:
When I click run in the test enviroment a pop up appears with a long number like "1652823641297151". When I click OK in this popup the normal results appear at the right side of the window("Hand", "Players" with their sub categories).

Boss:
I get an error message. With a different HH I get a different error message(in german).

Party:
Couldnt test it cause the HHs are really weird. Got them from the HEM processed folder but the files are empty or contain no real HHs.

All hands from all 3 rooms got imported properly into HEM though.
I have to think this is some kind of a filter. One room not working I can understand but none of them working seems kind of weird - unless different skins have different formats. I know I had one guy complaining about party not working for him awhile back but when I asked for hand histories, he never got back to me. You can easily grab whichever hands from HEM in their native format by right clicking the hand and hitting "copy hand to clip board". Also, I would need to see a log file of you running the note creation process. If possible, please send me a few hands for each room that isn't working. I am particularly interested in the German error. I imagine it says something like "Nein. Das ist kaput!"

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Originally Posted by teddyFBI
Oops, you're right: forget I used the term "buddy list". Here's the functionality I want, and I'd love to know whether you think NC will help me accomplish it faster.

Basically, I just want to use HEM to manually identify fish (i.e. without using any sort of predefined criteria "like VPIP > 40"), and then have them color-coded in purple. I don't actually keep NOTES on any of them in the Stars client...I just like seeing them highlighted in purple so I know where they are.

Up to this point, I've been opening HEM and doing some basic filtering searches to identify fish...I probably identify about 100 every couple weeks...and then opening up the Stars client, and going to Options...Player Notes...Add >> and typing in the names of the fish that I've found. This is a tedious process.

Is there any way that NC can help me automate this? I can very easily use HEM to generate a list of fish (and even export them to a Notepad .txt file if I want)...I just want to know the best way to color-code them in Stars (i.e. without having to individually type each screename in).
If you're doing all the hard work of figuring out who the fish are, then the act of color coding the players in the stars client is trivial. Each "color definition" has a free form field where you can paste your fish in, one per line, and then as long as they're in your database, NoteCaddy will give them all the purple color in your stars client.
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11-26-2010 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
I have to think this is some kind of a filter. One room not working I can understand but none of them working seems kind of weird - unless different skins have different formats. I know I had one guy complaining about party not working for him awhile back but when I asked for hand histories, he never got back to me. You can easily grab whichever hands from HEM in their native format by right clicking the hand and hitting "copy hand to clip board". Also, I would need to see a log file of you running the note creation process. If possible, please send me a few hands for each room that isn't working. I am particularly interested in the German error. I imagine it says something like "Nein. Das ist kaput!"



If you're doing all the hard work of figuring out who the fish are, then the act of color coding the players in the stars client is trivial. Each "color definition" has a free form field where you can paste your fish in, one per line, and then as long as they're in your database, NoteCaddy will give them all the purple color in your stars client.
OK, thanks -- so to test this out, I identified 60 fish in my HEM, and easily exported them into a .txt file, 1 per line. I then pasted them into the "free form" field you described, went to the PokerStars tab, selected Cash Games, and hit Start.

I was under this impression that it would simply ADD the 60 fish I'd pasted into the free form field to Pokerstars' Notes (and that it would take no more than 10 seconds -- there were only 60 names, after all)

BUT, that's when things got weird: the process seemed to be taking a very long time...and then when I looked at the names that were being processed, there were hundreds (even thousands) of names that were having colors assigned to them! Why was this happening? I only input 60 names into the free form field? Those are the only 60 fish that I wanted color coded, but it proceeded to color-code thousands of others (before I STOPPED the process, and just went back to my backed up Notes.xml file)...what did I do wrong?
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11-26-2010 , 08:25 PM
Are you sure it was adding colors to those players or was it just looking at the players to see if they matched a name on the list?

Did you delete the other color definitions? If so, it won't add colors for anyone but the players in your list.

The process isn't going to be 100% efficient in that it's not going to just create notes right away for the 60 players. The color coding provides a ton of flexibility but the price of that is that it takes some time to do.

edit: NoteCaddy also automatically backs up your notes file before it makes any changes to it. It backs it up with a unique name each time so you really should never have to feel alarmed if something appears to have gone wrong
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11-26-2010 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Are you sure it was adding colors to those players or was it just looking at the players to see if they matched a name on the list?
Yes, I know because I stopped the process about 90 seconds in, opened up Stars, and looked at the Player Notes window, and there was like a hundred new players tagged all sorts of different colors

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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Did you delete the other color definitions? If so, it won't add colors for anyone but the players in your list.
Oh, it didn't dawn on me that I'd ALSO have to delete the pre-loaded colors/rules: i.e. ABC, Calling Station, etc etc. All I did was create a NEW category called "Manual", pasted all of my 60 fish into the free form player list in that new category, went to the PokerStars tab and clicked START.

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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
edit: NoteCaddy also automatically backs up your notes file before it makes any changes to it. It backs it up with a unique name each time so you really should never have to feel alarmed if something appears to have gone wrong
Yes, I know - I immediately reverted once I saw that it had tagged all sorts of new buddies.

So is the answer simply that I needed to delete all of the pre-loaded color-coding before running the START?

(I know I'm only getting about 2% of the value from NC by doing what I'm describing above, but that's how i like to work with new apps...slowly get my feet wet until I feel confident that I'm not going to screw up Notes/color-coding that has taken me a long time to do manually up to this point....)
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11-26-2010 , 09:31 PM
Yes. Deleting the other definitions should make this work the way you want it to. Once you're comfortable with that, I do recommend watching the youtube videos http://www.youtube.com/user/AssaultWare

Some of the stuff is out of date (you don't need to make a hero color profile anymore). I look in the HEM/PT3 threads and people are constantly asking if those products do things like "how often does someone resteal my button steal" etc. NoteCaddy does that kind of stuff so whenever you're ready to try it you may be pleasantly surprised
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11-27-2010 , 07:51 PM
Getting a weird phenomenon and wondering if it's related to the NC tinkering I did yesterday. Here's what my HEM for *SOME* players looks like now:



I want to know what that cartoony red box is...I've never seen it before. It's obv part of the HEM HUD display, but I have no idea why HEM decided it was going to include it all of a sudden. After a few button clicks, I realized what it is: it's the HEM HUD notes icon...in other words, HEM *thinks* I have a note on that player. But there's absolutely no reason why I would because i NEVER take notes in HEM. When I click on the icon, the notes field is completely blank, BUT I click "clear" anyway (which deletes the 'phantom' note), and then that red box disappears (and goes back to the miniature black star which is HEM's default for 'no note on this player.)

Anyway, my question is just WHY HEM all of a sudden decided to include that stupid red phantom note box for a bunch of players (across several dif sites, not just party). And could it be related to the tinkering I did with NC yesterday? (I really didn't do that much with it! You can scroll up a few posts to see that I was just trying to get it to import a bunch of manually entered color codes, but I eventually gave up on that b/c it was taking FOREVER to color-code even just 60 players)

Is there anything that NC does that would cause it to place these phantom HEM notes?
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11-27-2010 , 08:07 PM
NC doesn't place any phantom notes that I know of. There is an option to highlight HEM notes and what probably happened is that during your experimentation, you created some notes and then when you reset, the red box stayed. You can auto remove all red boxes by going to file->remove HEM red background.

Also, just out of curiosity, how long did you wait for the color coding before deciding forever had passed? Even people with 10 million hand databases can get it finished in less than 8 hours.
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11-27-2010 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Also, just out of curiosity, how long did you wait for the color coding before deciding forever had passed? Even people with 10 million hand databases can get it finished in less than 8 hours.
Ha! Well, OK there's the problem, I guess. I waited about 15 minutes and watched the status bar, and it became clear that it was indeed going to take several hours.

Remember that the only thing I asked of NC was to find 60 players and give them purple color coding...I was literally expecting that that would take like 30 seconds or less...after all, you just need to put the right text in the notes.xml file, right? (which is what i figured out how to do manually in < 10 mins). But I guess NC is coded in such a way that it still tries to "process" all 8-10 Million hands even though I only asked it to find and color-code 60 players.
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11-28-2010 , 07:05 AM
Any MTTSNG players using this ? What are you using it for ?
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11-29-2010 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by not2secure4u
Any MTTSNG players using this ? What are you using it for ?
At one point MTTSNG players made up more than half the total user base. Now it seems that more cash players are using it. From what I understand, the MTTSNG players use NoteCaddy to enumerate regs' shoving and calling ranges based on position/stack size.

I am terrible at tournaments though that's why I didn't answer sooner - I was hoping some tournament player might chime in...
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11-30-2010 , 12:20 PM
Does NoteCaddy support LHE as well as NL?
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