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New software for ongame(free beta): modder+hotkey+auto-placer New software for ongame(free beta): modder+hotkey+auto-placer

07-16-2011 , 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBetter
Our group can do this without msim
Like i would be interested to join(lol) but at least tell the group what ocr is and maybe tell them to allow people to see basic functions before buying?

Just advice
07-16-2011 , 09:56 AM
key1..4 uses functionality from modul which is cutted from beta version.
Some trial version will be later.
07-16-2011 , 10:40 AM
Program much more better than old BetPot, a lot of new functions like showing mucked cards and hud statistics. Actually even didn`t know better program like this after update ongame`s soft to Javaversion. My recomends to all regulars and multitablers, thanks to author
07-16-2011 , 12:19 PM
new free beta v0.7.1 added
www.ongbetter.com/download
07-16-2011 , 01:43 PM
show additional information: blind timer, --->
not working!
allin - MButton -----> not working
fold- rbutton ---> works

so add auto OK PopUP and close tournament when finished and i will buy your stuff for 10$

p.s. great job! i like!
07-16-2011 , 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jankais
show additional information: blind timer, --->
not working!
allin - MButton -----> not working
fold- rbutton ---> works

so add auto OK PopUP and close tournament when finished and i will buy your stuff for 10$

p.s. great job! i like!
Blind timer will be in full version.
MButton will be fixed.
Internal room popups manipulating in our todo list
07-17-2011 , 12:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBetter
I don't see Ur software but reading of several feedbacks anougth to understand that ur software contains autoIt or AHK(or similar library) and of cause OCR.
I investigate this libraries and found they are slow for comercial poker soft, that is why our group uses only winapi for hotkeys and activation tables.
you clearly don't know what you're talking about, just spreading propaganda to promote yourself
07-17-2011 , 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg nice
you clearly don't know what you're talking about, just spreading propaganda to promote yourself
May be U know better
07-17-2011 , 06:14 AM
hi.

sounds interesting but i am unsure if it wont make some problems using it.
one of your interesting features tells me:
"show mucked cards at showdown."

i've just heard that ongame restricted this option to holdem-manager so they've had an update some months ago and therefore you cannot see mucked hands anymore.

what do you guys think about this?
07-17-2011 , 06:37 AM
it's necessary to question an official representative of any Ongame skin at 2+2.
for example, FullDeck Poker representative
07-17-2011 , 06:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TickTack25
hi.

sounds interesting but i am unsure if it wont make some problems using it.
one of your interesting features tells me:
"show mucked cards at showdown."

i've just heard that ongame restricted this option to holdem-manager so they've had an update some months ago and therefore you cannot see mucked hands anymore.

what do you guys think about this?
Than U press hand history button in room client U can see mucked hands.
I think no problem if U see this info for some seconds after hand. Any way we will discuss this with ongame support.
07-17-2011 , 07:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by burzum1
it's necessary to question an official representative of any Ongame skin at 2+2.
for example, FullDeck Poker representative
Request will be sent to ongame network then full version will be finished.

Last edited by OngBetter; 07-17-2011 at 07:13 AM.
07-17-2011 , 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by burzum1
it's necessary to question an official representative of any Ongame skin at 2+2.
for example, FullDeck Poker representative
Request will be sent then full version will be finished.
07-17-2011 , 07:31 AM
Prohibited Program Policy

Background and purpose

We recognize that people want to become better poker players so they can improve their performance at our tables. There are a number of techniques that can be used to achieve this goal. In our opinion, not all of the existent tools are consistent with "fair play". The purpose of this policy is to separate acceptable techniques of performance improvement from techniques that are prohibited at RedKings.com.

First of all, we would like to emphasize that education and experience are the strongest ways to develop a more successful game. We encourage this, and recommend worthwhile books for players interested in improving.

We also recognize that numerous software tools are available which promise to help players improve their game performance. After consultation with many of our players, including professional poker players and top poker industry experts, we have decided to clearly separate these programs into two categories: 1) software tools that provide a fair advantage to a player and are allowed; and 2) software tools that provide an unfair advantage to a player and are prohibited.

We both warn and promise players that we have a strict policy towards the use of prohibited programs. We have a zero-tolerance policy in effect against "poker bot" usage, collusion and other forms of cheating.

We want to keep our games fair for everyone and will take necessary measures to ensure this. For this reason, we reserve the right to change this policy at any time and at our own discretion.

Poker Bots

We believe that players who use automated "poker bot" programs to make decisions or take actions on their behalf in games are cheating. All players must be comfortable and secure that they are technologically equal in our card room. To ensure this, we have banned the use of these programs.

To be clear, players are prohibited from operating these programs or allowing these programs to operate while logged into their accounts. This prohibition includes all games, including tournaments and ring games, for all currencies, including real money and play money.

Only humans are permitted to play on our site. Artificially-intelligent programs, processes, applications and all other forms of software and hardware - including "Poker Bots" or "Auto Folders" - are prohibited from making game decisions or taking game action on our site, either under their own auspices or under the supervision of a human.

Fair and unfair advantage

Through analysis of hand histories, players can learn about patterns, strengths and weaknesses in their game play (and that of their opponents), and determine areas for improvement. We provide comprehensive hand history statistics in our software, but recognize some players want more specific details than that.

Programs that aggregate hand histories to profile a player’s own play and/or the play of opponent players at the same poker table are allowed.

PokerTracker and Texas Calculatem, for example, are programs that provide detailed statistical analysis of hand histories for beneficial review. As well as personal game play analysis, these programs also compile and profile a player's opponents' play. This is similar to how a meticulous player might use our "Player Notes" feature after every hand to compile their own profiles on opponents. As such, these programs are allowed.

Conversely, programs that use statistics not collected by the player himself/herself through ordinary, fair game play, are not allowed. Programs that share data are not allowed. Further, we do not allow players to collude, share hole card information or team up against other players. We also prohibit the use of any software program that facilitates the sharing of this information or player profiles.

PokerEdge and CardAnalyzer, for example, are programs that compile player profiles in a database and then sell subscription access to their systems. These programs allow players to access profile information on players they have never played against, and we believe this provides an unfair advantage. As such, these programs are prohibited.
07-17-2011 , 07:39 AM
"Conversely, programs that use statistics not collected by the player himself/herself through ordinary, fair game play, are not allowed. Programs that share data are not allowed. Further, we do not allow players to collude, share hole card information or team up against other players. We also prohibit the use of any software program that facilitates the sharing of this information or player profiles."

Ongbetter don't collect any information that is why it can't share it.
We will get official confirm after finishing our software.
07-17-2011 , 09:37 AM
Software looks good and is easy to use so far.

However couple functions don't work for some reasons ->

- Hotkeys(I've tried to put couple hotkeys to all-in but it doesn't work ingame)

- Active window function " under cursor"
07-17-2011 , 10:11 AM
emeriaa, pls try to restart ongbetter after changing hotkeys.
"under cursor" - we can't steal focus from some applications(for ex HM or firefox), we are working on this problem.

pls send me log.txt file info@ongbetter.com
07-17-2011 , 12:56 PM
i need this for mac
07-17-2011 , 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBetter
May be U know better
did you know that AutoIT and AHK are merely wrappers for the normal Win API calls? so there is little difference between using these products and whatever you are using.

as for OCR, yes you are right, using OCR in any language will slow things down, whether you use AHK, C++, java, it doesn't matter.
07-17-2011 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg nice
did you know that AutoIT and AHK are merely wrappers for the normal Win API calls? so there is little difference between using these products and whatever you are using.

as for OCR, yes you are right, using OCR in any language will slow things down, whether you use AHK, C++, java, it doesn't matter.
Of cause we want to use this libraries because it simplify our development, but it realy slow in stress tests. If U don't believe me it's ur rights.

There is free AHK scripts for ongame U can use them, If they will be fast and stable for U.
07-17-2011 , 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred-Man
i need this for mac
Sorry, but there is no plans to port our software to mac
07-18-2011 , 08:48 AM
Hello, I have problem run this program on my Win7. :/
Can you help me please?
" OngBeter has stopped working "
07-18-2011 , 11:21 AM
this function is really important for me and many others. you probable want to put it in a high priority.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBetter
emeriaa, pls try to restart ongbetter after changing hotkeys.
"under cursor" - we can't steal focus from some applications(for ex HM or firefox), we are working on this problem.

pls send me log.txt file info@ongbetter.com
07-18-2011 , 02:21 PM
New release(0.7.2) will be today.
under cursor fixed
dinamic change of hotkeys
seleral run problems fixed
mbutton fixed

if i have time to test:
?mouse wheel added
?blinds timer
07-18-2011 , 05:59 PM
An auto rebuy function is extremely crucial.

      
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