I have my own version of script which opens sng based on color notes.

Of cause yours is faster and more sophisticated but you are way too greedy on the pricing on higher stakes.

You see, with 2 years of unlimited subscription you may as well hire someone to write software for you.

You charge double the price when you doubled the stake limit. This does not work because:

1. The profitability does not double when the stake is doubled. More like 1.3x more profit for 6 max hypers.
   
2. Players are mixing stakes, hence not making full use of the stake limit.
   For example I play 7-30 hypers.

I am willing to pay $30/mth for the $60 pro, anything more I just use my own script.

p.s. you have the same price for sng pro and sng pro mini

I use it for table selection and as I try to play 5k games per month I would think I am very much one of your target customers for the pro version. I am confused as to why you think this is worth so much? It's a program that opens sng's. You have not invented the wheel you have solved a problem that is more of an annoyance than something that is a must have tool that cannot be solved in other ways i.e manual one click reg, sharky, tn2 etc. Anyway, that's my input, just because it you put lots of time into this product doesn't mean we have to pay a ridiculous price. If I spend 5 hours making a sandwich does that make it worth $100?

Why should he sell it 10x10$ when he can sell it 1x100$....?

Why always this whining? Pretty clear it's not to help OP, it pretty obvious you like the tool, but want to pay less. Why not make it free, it's done afterall!? OP is just greedy and now only collects the money and doesn't work at all from now on.

Why not trust the guy doing this nice piece of software to be smart enough adjusting his prices when seeing he isn't selling it that much for the current price?

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Sadly the post of that other angry guy were deleted. What better advertisement you could have dreamed of.

Max 2-3 days? Then why I am I still facing the exact same problem now?

Finally got it working by uninstalling and reinstalling.

The features video shows how to use a much older version of the software. It's not as intuitive as Sharky as it is, so can you please create a new features video/tutorial?

At these prices, + factoring in the cost of SS subscription, this is not a sustainable table selection solution for me. NoteCaddy and single-click registration never looked more attractive lol.

I'm not hatin man good luck but no thanks.

Using Sharkystrator currently. Your program looks like it really has potential but the prices are way too high. Yes it is probably faster but that doesnt make that much of a difference.


Currently paying 70$ a year for a ss license while I would have to pay 244$ for the 15$ version of your program. Sorry, but that is just ridiculous. If you want to compete on a tough market you need to release a better product at about the same price. I would be very surprised if a lot of people go for your product at the current price.

Also I was missing a feature which I really like about sharkystrator. In ss I am able to attach different values to the colors for different stakes.
F.e. on 7$ games a fish (green color code) is worth a little less to me than on the 15$ stakes. So I am giving 12 points for fishes on the 15$ stakes and 10 points on 7$ stakes.
With your program I can only have different overall weights for different stakes. With sharkystrator I can have different overall weights AND different values for the individual colors for each stake.

We are actually working on it to provide a couple of videos representing the feature, how to use them, etc. Shortly it will be available on our website and links will be added to the software as well. When we ready, we will inform all our users via mail about the details.

Can you explain it more deeply, what is the difference between your ss setup, and the setup provided in SL currently? In SL you can setup weights for colors, and in session rules you can define different weight for each rule/limit.

===== About Pricing =====

In the last few days, we got a few feedback via mails and forum posts regarding the pricing of our products. You can be sure, that we will take all of them into consideration, and will do some math in the next 1-2 days the provide reasonable price at all level.

We would like to ask all of you to share your thoughts about 2 things:

1. Please provide us feedback about the 'non pro' version of SnGOpener also which is cheaper and still faster and more sophisticated then competitors.

2. What would be a correct pricing for you (pro and non pro version as well).

You can post a comment here or feel free to send a mail to support@sessionlord.com with the subject: "My SessionLord pricing advice"

Ok. As you put a lot of effort into this, ill waste a bit of my time aswell.

1) You claim that non-pro version is 10% faster than competitor(s) (we all know who is main rival). You ask literally 2x more for 10% speed boost which is at best marginal upgrade. That said you aim at group of players who already have any kind of autoregistering system. Good luck with that. Even with same pricing you could be still happy to get significant number of customers (which would allow you to support and probably develop even more your product). Now anyone cant even confirm you just wont take money and dissapear after 2 months (i dont believe so, but its warrantable premise).

2) Pro version. You claim it is way faster. Ok, now you got peoples attention. It is more expensive than main rival. 1,5x? No. 2x? NO. 4x. All i can say is: "LOL".
You need to understand very important thing. Theres not enough traffic on higher stakes, that tables pops so fast u cant even register into good ones usually. Currently there arent even that many good ones to justify any autoreg soft at certain times. On the other hand on lower stakes it doesnt not matter that much aat all. There you can get any free script which autoreg u into tables and ure happy.

There are also quite a few things to be done (better video guide etc.) but your program seems interesting if we assume its fresh postbeta version.

We solved the update specific bug around application.dat, so the bugfix is in the current SessionLord release 0.1.2397.
Sorry for the late response, we promised 2-3 days on dec 04 and it was 3 working days.
The bug is may arise with SessionLord 0.1.2395, so may you get this error last time when updating from that, but no more from 0.1.2397.


Yes, we will create new feature video tutorials as soon as we can.

+1
All so true. Whoever in your company is deciding on prices obviously lacks business knowledge, and it's sad considering that you do have a superior product.

Part of the problem is that the pricing is more in line for what's reasonable for HU/6 max hyper turbos as those lobbies have huge fights for open seats when fish sit. As someone who plays 9 man turbos, 18 man turbos, fifty50s etc. 30s-200s your registration program is more just a convenience. I have no issues hand loading and will very rarely miss a good game. That being said at a certain price I have no issue paying for convenience of not having to lobby watch.

Maybe you could look at a different price grouping for HU/6 max hypers

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+1

We received a lot of feedback regarding SnGOpener pricing during the last week. We had to realize that the product was overpriced. In the last few days we have been working a lot to fine-tune the pricing for SnGOpener and Pro.

As we understand you want the higher quality for the same price. We improved the speed of non-pro version of SnGOpener which is now 1.5x faster than the competitors. All the limit arrangements and pro and non-pro pricing options are significantly modified. To have a correct comparison view, we setup 1, 3 and 6 months subscription options as well.

With this value/price ratio we think that for whom the table quality is important or a stable software required to keep open X amount of tables SessionLord openers are the very best choice. We promise that we will continue with the product development and support just like before.

The new pricing is made public and available here:
https://www.sessionlord.com/pricingSnGOpener.php

We are still open for feedbacks regarding this new pricing as well.

Does up to $60 actually include the $60 games?

Yes.

Ok, the pricing doesn't seem so bad now. I still think you would have got more people moving over from sharky if you had made the pricing the same as they charge. There is obv a finite amount of people who actually use a regging prog and that is probably not a huge % of the people who actually play sng's so I would have thought that getting those sharky customers to change over would have been at the forefront of your plan.

===== Announcement =====

We are excited to announce that our SessionLord facebook page is published.

https://www.facebook.com/sessionlord

You can follow the news about SessionLord there too and of course interact with us with a little different way
as you can post your thoughts, comment others, like what you really like or answer polls if you want and feel free to do that.

Our first poll is the following on the facebook page:
What do you think about our SnGOpener product and its price?
There are four specific questions and you can select a number on a scale of 1 to 5, from Poor to Awesome then submit your votes.

Actually it is not a scare tactic at all. You might check at EU/USA situated lawyer about it and get surprised what you will hear. Your comparison with Google also doesnt stand ground because Sharkystrator authentic work is much more then simple automated registration of SNG

Anyone can download your software, install it and see that it is a blatant ripoff of Sharkystrator which exists for years

How can someone claim this is original and so blatantly lie to everyone here is beyond me but i would say it sure does speak enough about your character just as the youtube jokes speak about your professionalism and maturity level

We are still waiting for this so called "legal department" response while the legal deadline is coming to end so i will use this chance to remind you that you would need to respond to that

Sharkystrator is a proven product that lasts on the market for years and people recognize its authentic work while you are a johnny come lately trying to be a ripoff but not even this leeching will be allowed to you, you copycat

You do mind me talking about these things? Unfortunately we have just started, and you will be exposed exactly as who you are so everyone can see

4x faster then anything else claim in combination with no “simulsit avoidance”
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If anyone watches this so called "promo" video it is clear that while the scanning occurs there are parts where
it jumps around lobbies without even allowing PS client to respond(a small unavoidable delay where data travels from client to ps server and back)
which will make it possible to receive and show information about players sitting in the lobby. It is sort of obvious that this "fast" part is added
in the “promo” video just to fool people to think how "oh fast" it is while in reality the only lobby that can be registered in such scanning would be a "random lobby"

Anyone can click on any lobby ID in the gamelist even without any software and see that information on the right(which shows player data) is not instant and cannot
possibly come as fast as this video would suggest, obviously because PS must first receive our request and send the data back to us that we need(playerlist)

Conclusion is that The small delays of data retrieval from PS server are simply not avoidable unless we would register "any" game

Not to mention that removing "registration popup dialog" isnt improving any observable speed at all because this part happens instantly(programatically) on client machine
where any decent computer would do in a miliseconds timeframe as for this there is no need to wait for any reply back from PS.

And with all this said we didnt even touch the part where for such a software a massive number of simulsits would happen, of course unless there is a system in the back
which will make sure this doesnt happen and i wouldnt be surprised if this thing doesnt even have that and just wants to show it how "fast, fast, fast" it is while it
doesnt even running as promised in that track

With that said I also want to use this chance to invite anyone who would think to use this copycat software because of lower prices to let me know about it

If anyone could help me with the language used for the rules in the AutoColoring please could you PM me? Happy to send some $ for you time.

As we said, you will get the official answer for your claim from our Legal Department.

SessionLord is not jumping from table to table in the lobby randomly. Anyone can download our software and try it out for FREE using freemium service to ensure that SessionLord highly takes into account the weight of the table. It can be also checked in SessionLord client application by opening the "See What SnGOpener is doing" tab.

You are right, any kind of registration software have to wait for the player list from PokerStars servers. We also do it of course, just we get it in a way faster then competitors. That's all.

We would like to kindly ask you again, before you say anything about our software, provide evidence rather than just say degrading things. We are not liars and our customers also not foolish guys. They exactly know what we offer them and what they want.

Please get in touch with us via mail: support@sessionlord.com
We are here to help you.

you shouldn't throw stones when sitting in a glass house.....

How i got banned from sharky
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...harky-1350618/

... and your support thread got locked as you failed to act/find a solution