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New iPhone app - PokerSniper (hand ranges per PokerStove) New iPhone app - PokerSniper (hand ranges per PokerStove)

01-05-2010 , 11:38 PM
Myself and a buddy have just released our port of PokerStove for the iPhone - it's called PokerSniper, and we hope you like it.

It's an optimised, fully general hand range evaluator using keypad input which allows for superfast, easy entry of any conceivable hand range.

It's a little different from some of the other hand range evaluators out there (eg PokerCruncher, Poker Odds Pro) in that we decided to focus on speed and efficiency of input (& calculation) for players who are familiar with hand notation (ie anyone who uses PokerStove).

As such there is no graphical dragging and dropping, fiddly selecting from tables or switching between multiple screens required. Any conceivable hand range can be quickly entered using the unique keypad. eg 55-99, JJ+, A2s+, ATo+, 67s, 78o etc. Actually, we have even more flexibility in our notation than PokerStove - we've included notation like Ax, Ahxh, Kxs, AT+ etc. We found that this approach provides maximum flexibility in entering hands, and is also dramatically faster to use than having to move through multiple screens.

You'll also likely find that our optimised calculation engine performs its calculations quite a lot faster than, say, PokerCruncher, which uses a much slower approach to hand evaluation.

PokerSniper also handles random hands correctly (by evaluating specified hands against the weighted average equity of a large number of randomly chosen hands) rather than PokerCruncher which simply selects one random hand and evaluates against this.

At this stage, we haven't included some of the ancillary features that some of the other Apps have (eg hand histograms etc). We are mostly focused on providing the same functionality as PokerStove, in a simple, clean, fast environment. We're very open to suggestions/feature requests though as we continue to develop the app.

(Eg, the next feature we are working on will be the ability to enter a % of hands to quickly specify a range, eg simply type 15% using the keypad and we will instantly populate the range with the top 15% of hands)

Anyway, I hope you check it out! You should be able to follow this link...

http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/poker...337703748?mt=8

or alternatively just search for PokerSniper in the iTunes Store.

We've also put up a LITE version which has full functionality for 50 free calculations. If you like it you can then upgrade to the paid version.

Here are a couple of screenshots...





Look forward to your thoughts!
01-06-2010 , 12:16 AM
Ha, was just thinking that making an app like this for the Iphone would be a good idea. I hope you make a lot of money.
01-06-2010 , 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carden72
Myself and a buddy have just released our port of PokerStove for the iPhone - it's called PokerSniper, and we hope you like it.
Just to clarify, this application has nothing to do with PokerStove.

- Andrew [author of PokerStove]
01-06-2010 , 03:12 PM
Hi Andrew,

My apologies if that sentence was misleading at all - I simply referred to PokerStove because it has become the best-understood shorthand for a complex hand range equity calculator.

We're big fans of your work and have the utmost respect for your contribution to the poker community.

Andy
01-22-2010 , 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carden72
Hi Andrew,

My apologies if that sentence was misleading at all - I simply referred to PokerStove because it has become the best-understood shorthand for a complex hand range equity calculator.

We're big fans of your work and have the utmost respect for your contribution to the poker community.

Andy
No problem. Good luck with the poker coding.

- Andrew
03-31-2010 , 09:14 PM
We've just released v.2 of PokerSniper, with an expanded feature set.

Version 2 adds:
- hand % notation. Now you can simply enter a player's hand range as a % - PokerSniper will automatically populate the player's hand range with the top x% of hands, and provide a quick visual snapshot of that range. eg, enter 17% and PokerSniper will display "17% (>ATo,66,QTo)"

- Deal to Flop/Turn/River. Simply tap the screen to toggle between Deal to Flop, Turn or River. Quickly assess how your equity changes by street.

- Long, complex hand ranges now dynamically resize within the hand input box so that you can easily see what you have entered for each player

Check out some screengrabs below...





These new features are available in our paid App.

itms://itunes.com/apps/pokersniper

(We also have a LITE version available for free which doesn't have these new features yet, but will let you try the application before you commit the $5...)

If you haven't taken it for a spin yet, give it a try... we think it's kinda neat.
05-07-2010 , 10:28 AM
Not everybody uses the iphone. I hope devs don't forget the Droid users, I have yet to find a pokerstove-type app for us.
05-07-2010 , 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alizona
Not everybody uses the iphone. I hope devs don't forget the Droid users, I have yet to find a pokerstove-type app for us.
+1
05-09-2010 , 04:23 AM
tbh we haven't really thought much about an Android version. I think it gets a bit tricky because of the number of different phones out there with different screen resolutions etc but i may be wrong. i'll chat to my partner (the one with the programming skills!) and see what he thinks.

if it's not a ridiculous amount of work we'd like to do it...
05-31-2010 , 09:15 AM
I'm probably gonna buy an andriod phone soon(fk apple), HTC desire or similar and would love a pokerstove app. Are u guys still thinking about making this it usable in andriod or are there any other alternatives out there?
05-31-2010 , 04:52 PM
Our plan at the moment is to "finish" PokerSniper for the iPhone. We have an update to v.3 that we will launch in the next week or so (with advanced functions like weighting hand ranges/editing numbers of combos), then we have another update planned after that with some backend options (like exporting hands etc).

Once we feel that it is as good as we can make it, then we are going to think about whether we can port it over to Android.

There are a couple of difficulties though:
- unfortunately we're not making any money out of this, it's pretty much a labour of love. we're not software developers, we're poker players, and the many hours that we spend working on this are hours that we can't work.
- neither of us own an Android phone, which obviously makes it difficult to do any testing

That said though, we're going to look at it once the iPhone version is complete - it's going to be at least a few months though.
06-01-2010 , 03:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alizona
Not everybody uses the iphone. I hope devs don't forget the Droid users, I have yet to find a pokerstove-type app for us.
I hear ya. Although I have an iPhone, I think all developers should be coding for iPhone and Android. I was a long time Palm OS user and there are a couple apps that I relied on, and the developers are only developing for Android . In time I may move over to Android, who knows?

I'll give Sniper a look.
06-15-2010 , 08:49 PM
Another droid user here. I want ANY range/equity calculator for my phone. If it was to work well and do what I want, I would pay/donate. Free would be better, maybe can have banner adds for one of the man poker strat sites. Just wanted to put in a vote for a Droid version, or if anyone knows of any good poker apps on droid market.

Thank you.
07-02-2010 , 05:04 PM
I haven't found a good droid "pokerstove"-type app yet... still searching as well and figured I'd bump this thread yet again...
08-04-2010 , 09:27 PM
I will buy for Android, please make it =]
08-05-2010 , 03:15 AM
Does this work on the ipod touch?
10-13-2010 , 06:04 PM
I found a crappy EV holdem calc, but It does not do ranges. At least it is something for the droid. Me want RANGES!
11-17-2010 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumbaclat
Does this work on the ipod touch?
yep, for sure. works on iPhone and iPod Touch.
11-17-2010 , 06:54 PM
Hey guys, v.3.0 of PokerSniper is now in the AppStore!

itms://itunes.com/apps/pokersniper

Version 3.0 introduces advanced HAND WEIGHTING/EDIT COMBOS functionality.

Basically, for any hand range, this feature gives you the ability to review the total number of combos contained within an opponent's range, and then also to edit the number of combos of each hand within his range - effectively allowing you to weight his range towards individual hands within the hand range.





v.3.0 also now incorporates:
- "Dead" cards (eg cards flipped up) which are removed from calculations.
- Up/Down arrows on the keypad. In addition to being used to adjust combos up/down in "Edit Combos" mode, these buttons also allow you to quickly adjust percentage hands up & down (with real-time updating of the individual hand range). This enables you to quickly hone in on the appropriate hand %.

If you have any questions or comments, feature requests etc... give me a shout.


(Note - these new features are currently only available in the paid version of the App.)
11-17-2010 , 06:59 PM
Some detail from the PokerSniper help file on how the EDIT COMBOS functionality works... (apologies for length)

Hand Weighting/Edit combos

PokerSniper now provides an advanced feature which allows you to change the weighting of individual hands within a hand range. This is done by editing the number of combinations (combos) included in any individual hand within a range. The concept is best illustrated by an example.

Let's say you have QhQc, and based on the preflop action (eg a 4bet from your opponent), you put your opponent on a range of QQ+,AK. In this instance, your opponent's range is broken out as follows - QQ,KK,AA,AK.

Consider now how many combinations exist for each of these hands. Because you have the Qh and Qc in your hand, there is one remaining combination of QQ (QdQs). In addition there are 6 combos of KK, 6 combos of AA, and 16 combos of AK (comprising 4 combos of AKs and 12 combos of AKo). There are therefore a total of 1+6+6+16 combos in your opponent's range. The number of these combos effectively weights the result of the equity calculation.

In this example, you can see that AK is the biggest part of this range (with 16 combos) vs 13 total combos for QQ,KK,AA. On occasion however you may wish to adjust this. If, for example, you feel that your opponent would only play AK this way half the time, then you can actually adjust the weighting of AK within this range. You do this as follows:

1. enter your hand and your opponent's hand range
2. press and hold the = button (this activates "edit combos" mode)
3. the number of combos contained within each individual hand will be displayed in brackets underneath the hand
4. you can now manually edit these combos to change the weighting of any individual hand within the range
5. to do so, tap on the individual hand to select it (the number of combos will turn red), then use the up/down arrows in the keypad to manually adjust the number of combos
6. when you are happy with the displayed number of combos, simply press = to calculate hand equity
7. to turn "edit combos" mode off, simply press and hold the = button again.

Note that even if you don't wish to actually edit the weighting of combos, simply displaying the combos can be useful in terms of getting a feel for exactly how many hands you are including in your opponents range. Obviously you will make the best decisions when you can narrow down your opponent's range as much as possible - hopefully this will help with that.
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