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Old 04-05-2017, 02:26 PM   #101
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Re: MonkerSolver

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feature request

http://imgur.com/a/4vzso

heads up, 3bet pot, oop checks and faces a bet

looking at the far right column, hands it elects to c/r, it would be nice if they could be arranged in a way that weights (probability of flop check)(probability of checkraise), or if I could hover over a hand and see how often it checks flop with that combo
Did you try sort by->combos?

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found a bug

http://imgur.com/a/zV6LF
http://imgur.com/a/ZAD29

trying to filter for the Td in the above brings back no results at all points in the sim
Are you sure the ranges contain hands with Td that are not blocked by the board cards? If so, please provide these ranges and I will investigate.

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be able to export the solvers hands/results on a given node to excel.
Just individual ranges, or in the same format as in the result table in the solver (one column for each action)?
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Old 04-05-2017, 10:18 PM   #102
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Re: MonkerSolver

Could you explain a bit what's going on here with the EVs and it's choosing of frequencies? Like why is it choosing to POT when they're so far apart and calling is higher and so is folding?
The sim is at 6.5B iterations, with nodes being 2.3B.
Also what exactly does reset the averages do and why did you recommend doing it halfway through?
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:59 AM   #103
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Re: MonkerSolver

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Are you sure the ranges contain hands with Td that are not blocked by the board cards? If so, please provide these ranges and I will investigate.
Yeah, I was using just my standard button vs bb range that I use for lots of stuff. I can PM it to you if you want. Td was not on board as you can see.

In regards to the above post, is that a river spot? I have seen some only wonky stuff on rivers even with billions of iterations. Like in the monotone sim I posted yesterday, Monker was potting river and folding to jam with some nut combos (I noticed they all contained three flush cards).
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Old 04-06-2017, 03:57 AM   #104
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No its a PF spot,

Here's a good example, this is a spot that's early in the game tree and should have plenty of iterations.

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Old 04-06-2017, 05:02 AM   #105
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Could you explain a bit what's going on here with the EVs and it's choosing of frequencies? Like why is it choosing to POT when they're so far apart and calling is higher and so is folding?
The sim is at 6.5B iterations, with nodes being 2.3B.
Also what exactly does reset the averages do and why did you recommend doing it halfway through?
This is likely because the EVs tells us about the past, i.e. the average EV the hand has had throughout the self-play iterations (including the early iterations where strategies were random). It does not tell us what the EV is with the current player strategies. The frequencies will converge faster than the EVs, so trust the frequencies when they don't add up.

That is also the reason for resetting the average. This will remove the accumulated EVs from the early iterations that are skewing the average.

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Yeah, I was using just my standard button vs bb range that I use for lots of stuff. I can PM it to you if you want. Td was not on board as you can see.

In regards to the above post, is that a river spot? I have seen some only wonky stuff on rivers even with billions of iterations. Like in the monotone sim I posted yesterday, Monker was potting river and folding to jam with some nut combos (I noticed they all contained three flush cards).
I realize that, but it's possible every hand with Td also contains a Kd, which means they are blocked. Please PM the ranges and I'll look into it.

The reason for nut-folding in that scenario is likely that the only hands which jam are also nut flushes, which means we never actually have nuts in that situation, which means the strategy is irrelevant with those hands (as long as we atleast call with enough nuts to make bluffing unprofitable).
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Old 04-06-2017, 08:08 PM   #106
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i am solving a preflop tree. Is there any way to give my opponents specific postflop stats. Like fold to cbet x%

Do i have to always right click, add to all --> postflop nodes when solving preflop trees? What will happen in the solution if i dont give postflop nodes at all?

Can you explain me what the all in threshold means? I see a value of 1300 on preflop ip, i read the description but still dont get what the 1300 represents

Is there any way to add remove hands from a diagram instead of picking each hand seperately then right click then node lock?

Thank you
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Old 04-06-2017, 10:39 PM   #107
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Re: MonkerSolver

I can't get my exported ranges to show up in monkerviewer. I think I have the folder set up right?

http://imgur.com/a/tqY63

I think there a problem with my exported omaha ranges? They are all only 1Kb ..

http://imgur.com/a/e6xEV

Below is supposed to be an 8% 3bet range for example.

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AhAs3s2s@100,AdAs3s2s@100,AcAs3s2s@100,3h2h3s2s@17 ,Ah3h3s2sAhKh3s2sAdAh3s2s@94,AcAh3s2s@94,3d2d3s2s@ 17,Ad3d3s2sAdKd3s2sAcAd3s2s@94,3c2c3s2s@17,Ac3c3s2 sAcKc3s2
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:22 AM   #108
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Re: MonkerSolver

Hoopster,

just a guess but I think monkersolver will save the ranges to the folder where the solver is and/or is opened from. I moved the saved runs (under settings) to a new bigger volume, but my ranges continue to save to the folder where I open monkersolver out of (a folder on my desktop). Try moving it all to volume D and opening the solver out of that, then save tree as range, then open monkerviewer from there. imo.
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:31 AM   #109
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I believe that's what I already have. I have two folders on volume D: (D:\Monkersolver and D:\Monkerviewer). And on my other PC, the Monkersolver folder is still on the desktop, but I am getting the same 1Kb .rng files on that one as well. Just to double check, I click (right or left - doesn't matter?) on a header like "CALL (34%)," a little dialogue box appears, and I name it and click save? When I do that, the file appears in D:\Monkersolver\ranges, I copy it over to D:\Monkerviewer\ranges, but like I said, the files appear to be incomplete?
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Old 04-07-2017, 02:08 AM   #110
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Oh hm not sure, I thought you were talking about right clicking somewhere on the hands and "save tree as ranges"
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Old 04-07-2017, 05:46 AM   #111
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How i add rake structure?

I have 64gb ram but when i try to build a tree even with the lowest settings i get an error system out of memory. Why is that?


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Old 04-07-2017, 08:11 AM   #112
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i am solving a preflop tree. Is there any way to give my opponents specific postflop stats. Like fold to cbet x%
Traverse to cbet defend node in the solve tab, right-click fold->Force frequency. You need to have avg strategy streets set to 2 in settings. This feature is experimental.

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Do i have to always right click, add to all --> postflop nodes when solving preflop trees? What will happen in the solution if i dont give postflop nodes at all?
If you have no postflop nodes you should not be able to start the run. If you just have check-down after the flop, the postflop EVs will simply be the equity. This is not a very good estimator of EV and you will get inaccurate preflop ranges.


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Can you explain me what the all in threshold means? I see a value of 1300 on preflop ip, i read the description but still dont get what the 1300 represents
If all in is less than 1300% pot (13 times the pot) it will be added automatically. For example, sb minraises HU and effective stacks are 42bb. bb all in will be:
pot after call = 4 bb. bb left in stack after call=40bb. All in is 40/4=10x pot and will be added automatically.
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Is there any way to add remove hands from a diagram instead of picking each hand seperately then right click then node lock?
Thank you
No, but next update you will be able to filter on hands and choose lock all which should make it easier. Selecting from a chart might come too eventually.


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I can't get my exported ranges to show up in monkerviewer. I think I have the folder set up right?

http://imgur.com/a/tqY63

I think there a problem with my exported omaha ranges? They are all only 1Kb ..

http://imgur.com/a/e6xEV

Below is supposed to be an 8% 3bet range for example.
Yes, there is a bug with saving by clicking the table header. This is however not how to export to monkerviewer. Use right-click->save ranges as tree.

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How i add rake structure?

I have 64gb ram but when i try to build a tree even with the lowest settings i get an error system out of memory. Why is that?

Rake is not available yet.

You have to set the -Xmx value available in the l4j file in the MonkerSolver folder to a higher value. This is the amount of RAM MonkerSolver can use (6gb default I believe).
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:18 PM   #113
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Re: MonkerSolver

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Yes, there is a bug with saving by clicking the table header. This is however not how to export to monkerviewer. Use right-click->save ranges as tree.
Cool, update today seemed to fix the .rng files. However, I am still not getting anything coming up under "local" when I copy them over to D:\Monkerviewer\ranges

What I actually care more about is how do I go about taking the range in the .rng file created in let's say a preflop sim and using that range in a different postflop sim?
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:22 PM   #114
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On a different pc with bigger ram i increased ram to 66gb. Then i started running a 4 way calc where co min. After 2 hours iterations/nodes is only at 1.8. Why it is so slow? When co folds i have everyone else folding. Pc has 256gb ram. If give 200gb ram to monker, how much faster the calc will reach 10 iterations?



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Old 04-07-2017, 04:35 PM   #115
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No, but next update you will be able to filter on hands and choose lock all which should make it easier. Selecting from a chart might come too eventually.
Selecting from chart should be included as it would be much easier to add/remove hands
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Old 04-07-2017, 05:11 PM   #116
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I don't think more ram is going to increase your iterations per second. As I understand it, that is based on processor speed. Fwiw I built a new machine capable of 128gb using one of the newest Intel chips, and I am getting about the same speed for 4 way preflop trees. Maybe if you got one of the new AMD Ryzen chips it would be better, but afaik they don't support 128 GB.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:00 PM   #117
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Thanks

Can you explain me why it chose to call KJo even though it seems like -651 ev call? Also what this monkersolver is reaching to this 651 result?
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:05 PM   #118
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Has the free version been updated at all yet?
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:20 AM   #119
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Just individual ranges, or in the same format as in the result table in the solver (one column for each action)?
Preferably a similar format where it just exports (what's currently displayed) each hand and it's corresponding numbers into cells. I could get the bulk of, say a PF strategy, quickly into a small excel file, and organize/group/round/etc ranges how I pleased.
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Old 04-08-2017, 06:13 AM   #120
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What it would be extremely helpful is to have a chart creation feature for preflop as piosolver. It is quite difficult to create charts with the current display
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Has the free version been updated at all yet?
This would be great. I am having a hard time deciding if I want to purchase this software. Including one free flop would also help. Thanks.
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Old 04-08-2017, 06:23 PM   #122
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Even though i have 30% flop cbet when i ran the solution and blinds check to button, button had the otpion to bet half pot. Why is that?

How i save the settings betting size if i want to use the same size in another tree?
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Old 04-08-2017, 11:57 PM   #123
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Re: MonkerSolver

whenever I use "FILTER" (bottom right corner)
after a few inputs the vision is freezing and will be stuck at the latest filter

the previous filter was: K:2-7:xy
regardless if i enter a new Filter or no Filter its stuck in the previous one.
This problem is repeating all the time, restart MonkerSolver, new Tree, new Start Solve, enter some filters and stuck
https://gyazo.com/4a6638a78557db2eac18f5cda2f3ffcc

is there a way to prevent that to happen everytime?
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Old 04-09-2017, 06:52 PM   #124
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This would be great. I am having a hard time deciding if I want to purchase this software. Including one free flop would also help. Thanks.
+1

One free flop would be awesome to fully test it.

With some user friendly guide to correctly use it.
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:53 AM   #125
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I am doing a btn vs co 3 bet situation. I ran until 10 iterations. 3bet range was x% but when i clicked reset the 3bet range changed by 2-3% even when i let it run until 20 iterations. Why is that? How would you advice to use the reset button? What range is more correct?
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