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Old 02-10-2019, 02:46 PM   #901
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I'm having trouble getting MonkerSolver to start. After some experimentation I've noticed that if I rename either monkersolver.exe or monkersolver.l4j so that the file names are different (so say monkersolver.exe and monkersolver2.l4j or vice versa), it starts just fine except for saying I only have 0.2397gb of RAM. However if the files both have the same name, nothing happens. The monkey icon sometimes flashes quickly but often not even that, and I see no process appearing or any difference in CPU/memory consumption in task manager.


I'm using a dedicated server with Windows Server 2016 Standard, 64gb RAM and 16-core 2.10GHz Xeon D-1541. I have updated Windows and removed and reinstalled MonkerSolver and Java today. The problem started before the updates and doesn't seem to be affected by them (although I only noticed the filename thing afterwards so obv can't be 100% about that). I have also tried adjusting the -Xms and -Xmx values in the l4j file.


Anyone got experience with similar issues?

Found that I can get Monker to start even with the l4j file intact, as long as I set the -Xms parameter to 256m or lower. The -Xmx parameter doesn't seem to matter, no matter how I set it the program starts and shows me having 0.2397gb of RAM available.

Again I have 64gb of RAM and nothing else running, Task Manager shows 60.9gb of RAM available. I take it that this means the issue is with accessing/allocating memory? I'm starting to get in way over my head here, would really appreciate any ideas.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:04 AM   #902
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I have no idea. You have the right version of Java(x64)? Maybe post screen shots of your Monkersolver folder and the l4j file?
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:15 AM   #903
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when i click the load icon in the solve tab, nothing happens. i have two saved runs in the monker folder labeled: savedRuns. am i doing something wrong?
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Old 02-11-2019, 09:09 AM   #904
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Found that I can get Monker to start even with the l4j file intact, as long as I set the -Xms parameter to 256m or lower. The -Xmx parameter doesn't seem to matter, no matter how I set it the program starts and shows me having 0.2397gb of RAM available.

Again I have 64gb of RAM and nothing else running, Task Manager shows 60.9gb of RAM available. I take it that this means the issue is with accessing/allocating memory? I'm starting to get in way over my head here, would really appreciate any ideas.

Fixed it! Turns out I had an Environment Variable "_JAVA_OPTIONS" set to "-Xmx256M" which I think was blocking any Java program from using more than 256m of memory. Absolutely no idea how that got there (update maybe?), but deleting the variable solved the issue.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:30 AM   #905
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Fixed it! Turns out I had an Environment Variable "_JAVA_OPTIONS" set to "-Xmx256M" which I think was blocking any Java program from using more than 256m of memory. Absolutely no idea how that got there (update maybe?), but deleting the variable solved the issue.
I've never seen that happen before, so I would say it's unlikely that it happened due to an update. Either way, thanks for posting the solution.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:42 AM   #906
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Is there a trial version?
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:58 PM   #907
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how do i enter in a "raise or fold" strategy postflop? i've tried entering clicking 'add to all' and entering "1" in cold call box, but it forces players to fold when capped.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:33 PM   #908
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hi all,

I feel like there might be something wrong with my current tree but I can't figure out what it would be. it's a 6-player 100bb tree with no cold-calling except heads-up in the BB. SB is allowed to limp or raise. 30/50/50 on flop and 66/50/50 on turn/river. 30 buckets P/L/L. I was a bit surprised, but this only came out to 20gb. does that seem normal?

so first, I'm at 38 i/n (I reset at maybe 35 i/n but it hasn't changed much), but it's still having an awful lot of trouble coming up with the correct preflop ranges. it starts out VERY hot-and-cold equity heavy - maybe that's supposed to happen - and that shifts more towards playability as more iterations are run, but it still wants to open QTo UT pre for anywhere from 20-50% of the time despite it being lower EV than other hands that are played LESS often. 76s and 44 have been vastly outperforming it for like 30 i/n now but still get opened less often for some reason. it's having a ton of trouble "coming up" with suited connectors, suited aces, and pocket pairs, even though their EVs are higher.

another thing is that some of my postflop results are very bizarre. for instance, in 3bet pots with an IP caller vs the blinds, the IP player essentially NEVER bets when checked to on the flop, on any flop. if you do select bet, the OOP player never folds - only raises or calls. also it has no EVs for any hand postflop, not sure if it's supposed to be like that. I cloned the exact same situation w/ ranges in pio and got vastly different results, more what you'd expect. all the betsizes I wanted seem to be in there - just a bet and a raise on every street. here's my threshold settings if it helps:



anyone have any idea what's going on? thanks so much!
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:21 PM   #909
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I don't run NL sims, but that does seem low RAM for a 6max tree w/ 3 bet sizes.. Did you include post flop raises?

More importantly, you can't look at post flop results from a preflop sim (I mean USUALLY the flop results are somewhat reasonable, but going further than that it all falls apart). You have to get the preflop ranges and then re-run flop sims with a different tree. And then you can take the results from the flop sim, make a new turn tree and get a combo turn/river sim (standalone river sim not needed ime).
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:08 PM   #910
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yeah - has 1 raise on all streets. there are a couple anomalies where because of low SPR and a threshold a player can't introduce a raise range where they really probably still should be able to, but I wouldn't think that would make that big of a diff in terms of overall EV...

and I still can't figure out why it won't integrate suited connectors/PPs into the range when it reports their EVs as being higher than offsuit broadways etc. maybe I should just try rebuilding this from scratch?

I've heard what you're sayin about not being able to look @ postflop results from preflop trees, but I didn't expect that to mean something like this, which is complete nonsense. bet 0% on every board wct on huge chunks of the game tree. all of which pio disagrees with. this only really makes sense if the postflop outputs in monker are LITERAL garbage, but... that's not right, is it? is my **** just buggy!? AH!
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:16 PM   #911
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I'm saying that the post flop results from a PREflop sim are pretty much garbage

If you want to upload your tree I can take a look at it
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:37 PM   #912
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I know with monker it's so tempting to want to make a master preflop sim and then just have that on hand to reference for all spots, but unfortunately it just doesn't work like that

The best way to go about it is just make a pretty basic preflop tree (ime trees with one bet/raise on all streets basically return same results as more complex trees as long as the betsize isn't big aka ~pot). The take your ranges from there and use scripting to run a bunch of flops with all your bet sizes. Then repeat for turn/river. It's annoying and tedious but it's the only way it works.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:27 PM   #913
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hrm, ok. I appreciate the offer to look at it - I'm gonna let it run a couple more days and see if I figure it out, but if not I'll def take ya up on that, thanks.
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:22 PM   #914
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Is it normal for Monkersolver to slow down my computer to a point where I cannot move my mouse without any lag when running turn sims? So basically, it says I need 3 GB RAM to run the sim, I have an iMac running WIN bootcamp with 30 GB RAM.

I have no trouble opening sims, they load very fast and smooth. However, when I start to run turn sims my computer is responding very slowly but I can see how Monker is doing its job. When I stop the run it takes another 1-3 minutes for Monker to fully stop the run and let my computer run as it should.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:56 AM   #915
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Is it normal for Monkersolver to slow down my computer to a point where I cannot move my mouse without any lag when running turn sims? So basically, it says I need 3 GB RAM to run the sim, I have an iMac running WIN bootcamp with 30 GB RAM.

I have no trouble opening sims, they load very fast and smooth. However, when I start to run turn sims my computer is responding very slowly but I can see how Monker is doing its job. When I stop the run it takes another 1-3 minutes for Monker to fully stop the run and let my computer run as it should.
Just to clarify, you are seeing this kind of lag with a 3GB RAM sim? It isn't normal for Monkersolver to grind your PC to a hault, but if you are using too much RAM in your system, this could lead to severe lag as your OS would have to write some of the memory to disk.

Other things that could be a factor are your CPU overheating. You might want to experiment with lowering the amount of threads you are using and/or monitor your CPU temps.

You may also want to consider running the native Mac client instead of running the Windows version in Bootcamp.
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:24 AM   #916
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When using 5/10 blinds value of bb is 10000. I want to see 0 to 0.1 value hands. When on bb these hands are -9000 to -10000, sb -4000 to -5000 and btn 0-1000. Is this correct?
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:14 AM   #917
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When using 5/10 blinds value of bb is 10000. I want to see 0 to 0.1 value hands. When on bb these hands are -9000 to -10000, sb -4000 to -5000 and btn 0-1000. Is this correct?
That sounds correct to me.
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:46 PM   #918
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Is it possible to create tree and give ranges to positions?

For example, create HU and give SB opening range and BB 3bet range and then I would like to see what SB calls/4bets/folds and BB 5bet-jam/calls/folds for the sizes I give them.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:05 PM   #919
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Is it possible te determine when does the postflop sim stops? (like in PIO where you choose "stop when desired accuracy reached"?
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Old 03-06-2019, 11:33 PM   #920
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Can't edit posts :/

Is it possible to see filters that I've added and remove some?
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:44 AM   #921
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I'm having trouble buying monkersolver, it says my discover credit card is not accepted and then declines by visa debit. Any ideas on how to make it work or alternative payment options?
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Old 03-07-2019, 04:33 PM   #922
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Anyone willing to give a tutorial on how to use monker etc? will pay for your time. thanks
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:54 PM   #923
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I think there is one bug. Not sure if anyone saw this:

When making PF tree but setting up postflop filters:
setting up all-in threshold to let's say 200 (2x pot) and turn bet committal to let's say 50. Making custom filter bet turn to let's say 75%
If action went in anyway I saw, allin will be used instead of 75% if bet would put more then 50% of stack in. For example OOP player 3b IP who calls. OOP cbets flop 33% and now turn is 50bb and OOP have 100. If he bets 75 that's more then 50 so all-in is the only option.
But! If pot was single raised and action went that OOP player x/r flop and now needs to bet turn where 75% would mean more then 50% of stack (let's say same situation where he would bet 75 into 50 with 100 behind), there is no bet option at all.
If I put bet committal to 100 then both 75% and allin are there ott after x/r flop but solving takes more time?
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Old 03-09-2019, 08:05 PM   #924
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does anyone have a 3p FLHE tree file ready to work with
it is not so easy to build it yourself
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Old 03-09-2019, 08:34 PM   #925
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as soon as I check the BET box, right-click and sub select root node > "add to all" > postflop nodes... the system works very hard.

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I have 64gb capacity. ram is being used at around 98%... and processor between 50% more and tree is not generated... will try to run it overnight and see what happens.

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