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04-21-2020 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CannucksHakey
This looks cool, unfortunately I can't get around poker software that stores HH's in the cloud as it sets a precedent for centralized information power. Please make a version that uses our own computer's processing power - most serious players have good machines for solvers anyway. I'd pay 2-3x your listed price for that.
Yes you're not the only person who has said something like this and we do appreciate the security concerns.

We have been looking at ways in which we could retain the power of the analysis we currently have whilst keeping the HHs local.

We are in the process of trying to implement a significant new feature at the moment that would use some of the existing features but present them in a different way without the need to upload hand histories for precisely this reason.

We'll hopefully have more information on this soon although lockdown and having to home educate children is slightly getting in the way at the moment!

Cheers

Mark
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04-21-2020 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by KickerMark
Thanks for this feedback. We really do want it and it's very useful.

We are planning to add more features and we'll certainly look at what you've said here.

The thing about RIO hand histories with all hole cards revealed is something we have been pondering ourselves because suddenly there is all sorts of analysis we can do that we currently have to do with incomplete information. If those sorts of games start to become significantly more widespread we'll be prioritising support for them.
YW mate. Seems like we were already thinking along the same lines.
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04-21-2020 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KickerMark
Yes you're not the only person who has said something like this and we do appreciate the security concerns.

We have been looking at ways in which we could retain the power of the analysis we currently have whilst keeping the HHs local.

We are in the process of trying to implement a significant new feature at the moment that would use some of the existing features but present them in a different way without the need to upload hand histories for precisely this reason.

We'll hopefully have more information on this soon although lockdown and having to home educate children is slightly getting in the way at the moment!

Cheers

Mark
I appreciate the reply! Best of luck
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04-22-2020 , 05:13 PM
Having some trouble uploading hh's from WPN files. Any way to help?

I keep getting 0 valid hands, 0 hands uploaded, etc

When i try to upload via the hand history picker, i get an error saying "String was not recognized as a valie DateTime"
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04-23-2020 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fla
Having some trouble uploading hh's from WPN files. Any way to help?

I keep getting 0 valid hands, 0 hands uploaded, etc

When i try to upload via the hand history picker, i get an error saying "String was not recognized as a valie DateTime"
Can you send a sample of the hands to support@kickersoftware.com and we'll look into it?

Thanks
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04-28-2020 , 01:15 PM
I tried to use the coupon code 2PLUS2 to try this software, it said the coupon code has expired, are there any valid coupon codes for the monthly subscription at the moment?

Thanks
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04-28-2020 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mjm
I tried to use the coupon code 2PLUS2 to try this software, it said the coupon code has expired, are there any valid coupon codes for the monthly subscription at the moment?

Thanks
If you try again now it should work OK.

Cheers

Mark
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04-29-2020 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KickerMark
If you try again now it should work OK.

Cheers

Mark
Thanks, it works now.

Some initial feedback. Apologies if any of the following is not relevant/incorrect, I've watched some but not all of the training videos and am still getting used to the various features to some extent.

I think what you are trying to create could become really good and a really useful piece of software, but at the moment it feels like it is half built, it really needs a lot more filters and options to really achieve what it could be capable of.

For example - On the preflop player tendencies analysis, it only goes as far as how often pool 3bets/calls/folds vs an open, it really needs to go further and show how pool responds to 3bets, 4bets etc..

Likewise on the flop player pool tendencies, we can see how pool responds to a cbet, but we can't see how often the pool cbets or how they respond to cbets been raised.

A filter for a specific player would be really useful, or at least the option to filter for certain ranges, the pool response is going to be very different against a player who is auto c-betting 100% to one who is c-betting 50% for instance, or a button opener with a 90% BTN open frequency, compared to someone with a 35% frequency.

I do think the software has good potential, I just think it needs a lot more filter and report options than it currently has available.

As a final point, I'm a bit surprised you have gone down the monthly subscription route with this software. I would see it as the type of software I would use extensively for a short period of time while doing a deep analysis of a player pool, then probably wouldn't pick up again for a few months until I either needed to analyse a new player pool or felt game conditions had changed significantly enough that I wanted to analyse how the pool tendencies had changed. It feels a bit strange to be paying a monthly subscription for software that I would probably use extensively for a few days at a time and would then probably be dormant for a few months, until I repeated the exercise.

Good luck with the development, I do think with additional filters and reports this could become an excellent piece of software.
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04-29-2020 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mjm
Thanks, it works now.

Some initial feedback. Apologies if any of the following is not relevant/incorrect, I've watched some but not all of the training videos and am still getting used to the various features to some extent.

I think what you are trying to create could become really good and a really useful piece of software, but at the moment it feels like it is half built, it really needs a lot more filters and options to really achieve what it could be capable of.

For example - On the preflop player tendencies analysis, it only goes as far as how often pool 3bets/calls/folds vs an open, it really needs to go further and show how pool responds to 3bets, 4bets etc..

Likewise on the flop player pool tendencies, we can see how pool responds to a cbet, but we can't see how often the pool cbets or how they respond to cbets been raised.

A filter for a specific player would be really useful, or at least the option to filter for certain ranges, the pool response is going to be very different against a player who is auto c-betting 100% to one who is c-betting 50% for instance, or a button opener with a 90% BTN open frequency, compared to someone with a 35% frequency.

I do think the software has good potential, I just think it needs a lot more filter and report options than it currently has available.

As a final point, I'm a bit surprised you have gone down the monthly subscription route with this software. I would see it as the type of software I would use extensively for a short period of time while doing a deep analysis of a player pool, then probably wouldn't pick up again for a few months until I either needed to analyse a new player pool or felt game conditions had changed significantly enough that I wanted to analyse how the pool tendencies had changed. It feels a bit strange to be paying a monthly subscription for software that I would probably use extensively for a few days at a time and would then probably be dormant for a few months, until I repeated the exercise.

Good luck with the development, I do think with additional filters and reports this could become an excellent piece of software.
That's all really useful feedback, thanks.

Some of what you suggest is already in the pipeline but we will certainly bear all of this in mind as we further develop it.

One quick question back though, your point about the monthly subscription is very interesting. What sort of payment model would you suggest would better fit your likely pattern of usage (once it has more features of course!)?
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04-29-2020 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KickerMark
That's all really useful feedback, thanks.

Some of what you suggest is already in the pipeline but we will certainly bear all of this in mind as we further develop it.

One quick question back though, your point about the monthly subscription is very interesting. What sort of payment model would you suggest would better fit your likely pattern of usage (once it has more features of course!)?
It feels to me that a one off payment model or if you really want to go the subscription route, an annual subscription would be more appropriate.

On the current monthly subscription model the most efficient/cost effective use of the software seems to me to be that you would subscribe for a month, do a deep analysis of the player pool tendencies during that month, then unsubscribe once that is complete, since you are probably not going to use the software much again until you are in a different player pool or game conditions have changed. That's likely not going to be until a few months later, at which point you would subscribe for a month again and rinse and repeat.

Maybe other users would use the software in a different and more ongoing way than I would? But it feels to me more like say a leakbuster type of software that you would use periodically, than something like a tracker/hud/solver type of software that you would use continuously.
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07-08-2020 , 08:48 AM
any ETA for PLO support?
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07-13-2020 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KickerMark
Thanks for this feedback. We really do want it and it's very useful.

We are planning to add more features and we'll certainly look at what you've said here.

The thing about RIO hand histories with all hole cards revealed is something we have been pondering ourselves because suddenly there is all sorts of analysis we can do that we currently have to do with incomplete information. If those sorts of games start to become significantly more widespread we'll be prioritising support for them.
Ignition and Bovada both do as well. Any plans to add support for these?
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07-14-2020 , 10:07 AM
i cant upload folders - only .txt

am i missing somenthing?

can't believe i have to manually import 2M+ hands manually - i'm getting crazy

Last edited by melbourne!!!; 07-14-2020 at 10:24 AM.
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07-15-2020 , 05:08 AM
THAT'S NOT A FREE TRIAL IF YOUR SUPPOSED TO PAY.
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09-09-2020 , 06:26 PM
Hello hope this is relevant place for this.
I’m creating a commentary software for online Omaha home games and what’s new to this is that I’m interested in 5card Omaha. So I’m looking for a 5 card Omaha odds calculator software, but with visible whole cards information, meaning all odds For players need to be calculated with the exemption of outs which are on hands (if that makes sense).
If you already have the calculator and would love to use your API or even purchase the calculator itself. It’s all for personal use and not for sale or something.

ping me on telegram @andriikrynin
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09-28-2020 , 10:54 AM
terrible customer service, I sent email 5-6 days ago and still no responds
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09-28-2020 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mandza17
terrible customer service, I sent email 5-6 days ago and still no responds
Hi

Apologies. We missed that. I have just replied now asking you for more information.

Regards

Mark
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09-30-2020 , 09:16 PM
Does it work for MTTs? Many thanks
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10-02-2020 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dreamstrike13
Does it work for MTTs? Many thanks
Hi

Yes it does work for MTTs. It allows you to filter your hands based on site, tournament/cash, buy-in/BB level (for cash) etc. too.

Thanks

Mark
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10-07-2020 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KickerMark
Hi



Yes it does work for MTTs. It allows you to filter your hands based on site, tournament/cash, buy-in/BB level (for cash) etc. too.



Thanks



Mark
Hi make, so we are only able to filter by BB for cash? That would be a fundamental aspect for MTTs any eta on this? Thx

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10-08-2020 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dreamstrike13
Hi make, so we are only able to filter by BB for cash? That would be a fundamental aspect for MTTs any eta on this? Thx

Sent from my H9493 using Tapatalk
Yes at the moment you can only filter tournaments by buy-in, not BB level. There is however in most of the features the ability to filter by effective stack size pre-flop which is a rough proxy for the stage of a tournament you are at.

We may add the ability to filter based on BB level for tourneys further down the line but there are no current plans for that.

Cheers

Mark
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