I wanted to purchase the gold combo, i see its still in the making. Will we get a discount for buying the NL and PLO cash game software, when the other ones become available?
i.e. Getting $10 off the tournament one, so the total would amt to the same $59

Strange, my response earlier didn't post. Go over the troubleshooter and check your settings. There's probably something you need to adjust. Keep in mind the new version is coming out here soon and these adjustments won't matter anymore.

It's in first beta right now. It's just going to depend on how the testing goes. I don't want to rush it. But it looks real real good so far.

Yes, but S&G's do work now for the tournament edition. MTT's don't though.

It works for PLO. Hang on and wait for this next update to come out if you're having issues though.

There's only cash games and then tournaments. The the cash game version covers NL and PLO cash. You save $20 by getting the gold combo which covers everything. Keep in mind S&G is beta, MTT is not available yet.

Eta for MTTs?

I've noticed some recurring problems with BCC. My first hand won in a session is almost always missing. I can find it in HH within the Bovada client but it never gets recorded by BCC and doesn't show up in PT4. Usually after that it runs fine but still misses a couple hands. It may be coincidence but I find that it misses hands that I am involved in more often. I've watched my tables very closely since then.

The other issue I have noticed consistently is that rake gets calculated wrong for larger pots. It appears BCC records the rake at an incredibly high rate sometimes. I've seen some hands that had rake so miscalculated that it said I lost money when I had doubled up. This obviously effects stats a lot and it's a pain to go in and actually edit the text file.

appreciate the hard work and continued effort you are putting into this product , cant wait!

Yep I am having all these issues also.

Right after this cash game version goes up, it's the first thing being worked on. It shouldn't be that long.

It depends when you sit. I think if you sit and play within the first 1-2 hands, this could happen. Otherwise it shouldn't. Double check your settings using the troubleshooter too if you're missing a lot of hands.

It should be any day now and we should have this new version ready to go, and there won't be these issues anymore. I've personally tested it with table tamer and all kinds of resolutions and it's capturing 100%. There's just a couple of minor bugs the developers are finishing off with the new update.

What is the deal with this invalid pot size error? Is this just a mystery that can never be fixed or what, because it's been months and I paid for the product and haven't been able to use it.

It's not just one issue. It's about 593 to be exact. It has to do with the grabbing of data and how it's handled on different resolutions. Like I said above, the developers have completely re-vamped the capturing process for the past 5 months so that now this will not occur. A different route needed to be done to accomplish this task.

The product has been useable though, but on some setups it has capture loss. I can run it on my system for 1.5+ sessions and miss one hand. Others in the same session can a much higher rate. So we've addressed that, and this next update will resolve that.

We're in the testing phase now so it will be any day.

No HUD on PLO tables, still working on NL (with lots of errors). Using PT4 and no mods/other programs.

Nevermind I forgot I hadn't bought the Omaha version of PT4...

I have been streaming on twitch using the software and everyone asks about it. It works great for the most part, but does miss a lot of big pots when I go all in and lose. I suspect it might have something to do with the fact that I will add chips mid hand in case I get felted maybe? I play four tables on bovada and I do extend the tables to be slightly larger, but there is no overlap.

-jpatche

Yeah, I'd try to either play the tables in default or min size then if you're missing a lot of hands as a temp solution. This next update will be out any day now and none of that will matter anymore, and it won't be missing any hands no matter what the sizing or DPI settings are.

By months end?

I also purchased the software after seeing Jpatche using it, but i tried using it a couple times and it was way too buggy...

I probably have around 25 new people ask me about the software every day. I have actually been telling people to avoid it for now because of all the issues and just use holdem indicator and hand converter until the new update.

Can we get an actual date? earlier this month it was 1 week, then 2, now any day. I'm starting to believe that its actually just not coming out.

To be honest, I don't care about the errors your testing right now, I just want to physically see an update to the software and know one actually exists. But until I see a new update Ill assume that one doesn't exist.

I'm tempted to quote each and every "any day now" post a'la The Daily Show but I'm just too lazy. But yeah, I've been feeling the same thing. I mean I believe Freak when he says a new version is coming but he's been teasing it for quite some time now.

It works if you follow the troubleshooter.


It's true though, I committed the ultimate sin in software development. I set a tentative date. I won't do that again. I can only go by what the developers tell me, but then they have a setback it changes things. And bottom line is I don't want to rush the update out and have it have a bunch of issues. Believe it or not, this isn't something easy to pull off. If we were doing something simplistic like HI, then it would be, but we're creating complete hands that go into your database in a pre-set format so you can do any kind of analysis and HUD. The amount of data to be captured correctly is literally in the millions. In retrospect, I should have just done a HI type program, but I designed it for myself because I wanted to do more than just have VPIP/PFR and no way to analyze my own data / hands adequately. I'm also under charging for what the development time is on this project.

With all that said, the new update will work as I stated. I get that everyone wants to get it asap, so do I. I've been doing this for quite some time, and I personally hate that I had to re-work a product from scratch after release. I had probably 20 people from 2+2 beta test this for 7 months before it was even put out, and we thought it was solid for what it did, but you never know until it goes into a bigger market. I knew it was a complex risk though for what we were trying to accomplish.

I use the current version every day and it's fine for my purposes. It does miss some big all-ins. That will all be resolved. I am bumping the pricing after this update goes out because I have to.

To what? If we purchase it now will the update be free?

I'm trying to keep it as cheap as possible. I've lost a lot of money on it to this point. But I was thinking of about +$10 per version. And yes, anyone who has it now will get the update free. I know the guys who have had the version from the start deserve the re-worked version if they've had issues.

The 2+2 community has been very supportive of all our software, and the bovada catcher has been no different. Despite some of the issues, people have been very helpful with their feedback and patient.