Just bought the software, and I am very confused about the wording in some places, or maybe I don't understand what the spot is trying to show.



"SB Overcall after BTN Push, SB Raise, Hero (BB) Call"

Why does it say SB raise when the chosen action for SB is to call 1580?

How can SB overcall if BB flat calls?

Hi Mangelord,
Thanks for your question. Naming a range can be a tricky problem.
Due to complexity of potential preflop action and lack of text space we use simplifed names for ranges.
We didn't have range names in ICMIZER 2 and sometimes it was too difficult to understand what certain range represents.
So we introduced range names in ICMIZER 3.

However, the task of parsing preflop actions and displaying a short and clear name for a range can be very tricky. There are a lot of words in ICMIZER lexicon that can have a double meaning. In ICMIZER "call" usually means second all-in, but it can also mean a call in situation like this where someone pushes and you just call non all-in because you have more chips than they do.
Or someone can raise non all-in and you call that but the raise is bigger than your stack so you technically push.
I hope this helps a little. In this case it uses simplified naming of "raise" because he isn't all-in.
On your screenshot where we call it a "call" and you expect a push we use our second all-in name which is "call".
It is partly due to complexity of the problem, partly due to historic reasons.

In most cases when you see following words in ICMIZER they have a clear meaning:
Push = first all-in. Call = second all-in Overcall = third all-in.
VPIP or Raise - non all-in bet.

Hey Q,

Request: Can you add the Stars $10 6 max hyper turbo PKO to the SNG Coach option, I'd really appreciate it. Feels like there's a lot of interesting ICM spots in that one.

Any chance you could add the ability to create Folders for the saved ranges?

Thank you for the explanation! Maybe you could look at some way to make it a bit clearer in the software. Thank you for the program.

Hi mephisto. Sure, we can add this. I’ve passed this on to our team.

Hi Harambee,

Thanks for your feature request. Currently, there are no near time plans. If there is a bigger demand then we will definitely consider adding that.

As part of our ongoing process of improving ICMIZER 3 we've prepared a calculation engine update v3.1.

These changes affect many things, namely the accuracy of calculations, the weighting of hands, exploitability of solutions, etc.

There are fewer hands with weights other than 0% or 100%, so the results are purer. In an ideal solution, there are no such hands at all in ranges, but for most situations it's unreachable. So, the more 0% and 100% hands in range, the better, and now ICMIZER comes closer to ideal solutions.

Exploitability, a general measure of calculated Nash equilibrium quality that we use, is lower now in most cases. The perfect value for this is 0%, but it's generally unattainable for most situations, but the closer to 0% it is, the better. ICMIZER 3 CFR+ Nash solutions were already very good and close to 0%, but they are even better now.

You can learn more here:
The New ICMIZER 3.1 Calculation Engine Update

Hey Q,

Can you direct me to the best SNG Coach training option to best practice push/fold a bubble situation for a min cash for large field big mtts?

If that doesn't exist, then what is the next best option? Is the 45 man 9 max normal (paid 7 spots) SNG bubble spot the next best thing? Thanks for your insight!

Hi

I am pleased to announce that we're planning to release new update which will allow to practice various non-ft ICM based situations in SNG Coach.
This will fill the gap between current binary choice of either studying final table play or very early MTT stage via Chip EV training.
There is no ETA yet, but its in our shorter term plans.

Hi Q,

I'm not sure when it is appropriate to run a tournament sim under the ChipEV vs ICM %EV mode. Do you have general advice, or a rule of thumb, on where the line might be? Thanks!

Edit: Extra question - when you run the auto analysis tool does ICMIZER automatically switch between Chip EV and ICM %EV Mode/other modes depending how deep the hero runs?

Hey, I strongly recommend to use ICM mode for all situations where possible, for MTT it means with 500 or less players, for PKO MTT 2500 or less.
Chip EV ignores payouts and is relevant only at the early stage of MTT.

If you run auto-analysis correctly in MTT mode, it will. But it will only fall back to chip EV if it estimates that the remaining number of players for the particular hand is > 500.
You can learn more in this article:
How to Use the Automatic Hand Analysis in ICMIZER 3

Anyone else experiencing problems loading ICMIZER after the tutorial update? It says it is updating and installing, just like any other time, but when it's time for ICMIZER to appear, it doesn't.

I had no problems

No problems here...

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Hi mephisto,

I'm sorry to hear that you have issues with an update.

Did you try to reinstall the ICMIZER desktop client from the site? https://www.icmpoker.com/en/download/

If it doesn't help, please contact our support support@icmpoker.com.

Also, please note, that you can use the web version of ICMIZER that is available here: https://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/

I uninstalled and reinstalled it. It worked from my quick pin tab for the first time but not the second/third time. But it did work when I clicked the desktop icon.

Btw, could you please put in an auto-close option like PIO does if someone accidentally has ICMIZER on when you open a poker client?

Hi mephisto,

Thank you for the feedback.

Currently there is no way to do that. Maybe in the future, but we can't promise that.

I’ll pass your feature request to the product team.

Hey All,

I am interested in some type of structured study, a curriculum if you will, for studying with ICMIZER. Other than just starting with common spots and stack sizes, I’m curious how everyone uses ICMIZER. I’m talking separate from the Auto-Analysis feature.

Thanks

Hi Crazy Ivan,

The hand review process should contain 3 main steps:

• Setting up the situation (the tournament structure, stacks, blinds, number of players, their preflop actions, etc), everything except ranges. Read more – https://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/how...and-histories/
• Assigning ranges to all opponents, using ICMIZE & manual adjustments afterward. Read more – https://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/per...dvanced-guide/
• Displaying the optimal situational push/fold chart for the hero using the "Calculate Hero" button.

How does the BB's bubble factor vs LJ/HJ drop below 1 in this situation? This is a freezeout payout structure with no bounties involved. We only see this drop below 1.0 in BF when we enable FGS, and it seems it's only happening when stacks are really short.

hi!

is there some API?

If no, what's the best way to interact with the program?

Hi melbourne!!!,

Using ICMIZER through an API prohibited by Terms of use of ICMIZER Software.

We care about the poker ecosystem and try to defend poker players from cheaters who use bots and other unfair automatic tricks. Our target audience is players who use our software for educating and game improvement.

The best way to interact with the program is to manually press the buttons.

To improve this interaction we recommend using the Automatic Hand Analysis. With automatic analysis, ICMIZER quickly looks through all your hands in the tournament, finds suitable ones for analysis, calculates equilibrium ranges, watches how the player played, then shows all the errors and points out the most expensive ones.

Hi Harambee,

The ICM model analyzes everything statically and does not understand that the short stack will be pressed out of the tournament soon only by the fact of paying the big blind.

The FGS model sees the blinds move, and with short stacks, this move has a critical impact on strategy.

In the next hands, if BB doesn't call now, they can't dominate the table as much as they can if they call.

It's more profitable for a player to call all-in now than in the next rounds despite the ICM suggestion. i.e., the sequence <we call - eliminate a player - dominate the table with wide pushing range> looks more attractive than folding according to FGS3 model.

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icmizer, can you add sng coach for the gg speedracer where we are playing 10bb poker pko please?