Big ICMIZER 2 update v2.6.0

• Added support for calculations of Nash equilibrium with FGS depth 3, 4, 5 and 6 (depending on the number of the players at the table)
in standard SNGs, MTT final tables and Bounty/KO tournaments

To learn more about FGS depth and how to choose the right depth check out this article:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/icmi...y-fgs-support/

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Hi. I've resolved this over email. There was a problem with your renewal and it all should be good now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Say we're in a spot 10 players left ft bubble in a sunday million, 215 buy in with +200k on top. We have a biggest chipstack on our left, we're 70bbs deep effective bvb. We have kings @sb, folds to us and we open/4bet and get 5bet shoved on.

If we calculate our ICM $EV of that spot how does icmizer take into account every aspect of that particular situation (2 tables of people left, massive soon to be payjumps(immediate ft bubble) etc?

I got an hh from a friend asking me is there any hand besides AA SB should GII at an similar spot, and i think i dont get realistic results somewhy.

Hello!

I would like to calculate whether I need to push a certain hand from UTG using FGS 2, so taking into consideration next two hands. Icmizer then shows two tabs with opponents ranges Main range tab and overcall range tab (which has subtabs for every position). Do I really need to adjust all those ranges for an adequate calculation or is it fine if I just adjust the MAIN RANGES if I feel the need to?

Also, why in ranges there is no BB calling range in either of tabs.

Can you add some "+" and "-" buttons to increment/decrement the stack sizes? Typing them in takes a lot of time relative to how long it would take with buttons. Also, if you can make it so the mouse scrolly thing changes the stack sizes as well that would be good.

Also you could have tabs so you could open multiple instances of the different applications.

Will icmizer2 have the Beat the Clock format sometime in future?

Hi

I am not sure if this is a bug or i doing something wrong or using icmizer in the wrong fashion?

bvb ran nash ranges for a spot see below



then when i click on calculate to show the individual hands in this range and the EV of each hands etc I get this



Which is a 2% difference to the original one (which I believe is the correct nash range)

The same happens if I calculate nash then look at charts - result. The range changes from 68% to 70%?

what is occurring here?

Also have another question

Are there any plans to add weighting to hand combos? I think this is really important feature that's missing. When looking at or using the program to construct say 3b/calling ranges most people are playing a mixed strat now with some hands.

HRC has this feature and PIO solver pure preflop calculator does also which i am finding myself using more and more for more complex spots even though set up is a little more laborious.

thanks in advance

as well as Raise/call Raise/fold vs shove mix strat would be great to implement

Hi. In most cases you should worry most about Main ranges, namely the column below hero.
All other ranges affect our strategy in less straightforward fashion. Generally, what is more likely to happen, affects us more. OCs rarely happen, so widening overcall range 2x or even 10x can affect very little. Changing BB call range vs our push can change our range significantly though.
However, I recommend to spend time and test how changing opponent ranges behind us affects our range to get the feel of this.

I am not sure what you mean, BB calling range is next to BB player (horizontally). Did you watch our tutorial vid where we explain which ranges go where?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0EAAtASNWM
If you attach a screenshot to your question I'd be able to help more.

Hi.
The best way to load stacks is to import hands, this way the stacks are loaded without any additional keyboard presses. The second best option is to manually edit them (you can use TAB to help to speed up process). Unlike some other tools our goal is to have a clear and easy to use interface.
It will take someone literally forever to move from one random hand to another using these + or - buttons instead of just entering the required stacks. Stacks can be completely random so + and - buttons make very little sense. We have + and - buttons in raise editor, where the raise size is often a multiplicator of smallblinds. Stacks do not follow this fashion.

We are considering adding something like this. However you can open several tabs of ICMIZER, or launch several instances of it right now, as a workaround. Some update is definitly coming regarding this "tabbed" feature or reviewing several hands at the same time, but its not on our shortest todo list right now.

Hi
Beat the clock support is planned for this week (both 48 and 27 man, including SNG Coach). Right now, as a workaround, you can create a new tournament and add the desired blind levels, and review it with chip EV. The hand history format is already supported.

Hi
First I need to explain the difference in the two buttons.

1) Calculate Nash equilibrium finds an optimal nash ranges approximation for all players. ICMIZER is using pure strategies for its Nash ranges approximations. This means that individual hands are either present or absent in the resulting ranges of Nash equilibrium approximation.

This also means that in certain "difficult" spots its hard to find stable solution using pure strategies (the easiest scenarios that come to mind are deep stacked 30+BBs situations).

2) Calculate fixes all opponent ranges and calculates single precise range for specified hero position and opponent actions (on your screenshot: all fold to hero, we calculate open push range).

Since Nash ranges are an approximation, and a precise Nash solution pretty much never exists almost any range will make a small jump when tested with Calculate button.

I explain this effect in more detail in this article:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/anal...sh-fold-spots/

Other products that I am aware of are using mixed strategies, which allows to find closer approximations by playing some hands in the range only a certain % of the time. This leads to more stable Nash approximation, but has a feature of being very theoretical, since real world players do not follow complex mixed strategy on every position (because they simply cannot calculate this mixed strategy on the fly, and its impossible to remember).

The good thing is that hands in question (the jumping hands) usually are closest to 0% EV out of entire 169 basic hands. So in most cases it isn't a mistake to push or fold these hands, the mistake is to push hands which have significantly -EV or to fold hands which have significant +EV.

I hope it helps with this situation. It is indeed very complex, I get a lot of questions regarding this. The difference between mixed Nash equilibrium and pure nash equilibrium is hard to explain, and consequences from both approaches are not transparent.



Hi. Right now our release schedule plan has following big ICMIZER related features:

1) Support for Progressive Knockouts calculations using our advanced IKCM model. Coming later this week.
2) Nash equilibrium calculations for preflop raise, reraise, etc. spots. A major feature which is coming in the upcoming 1-2 months.
2) Support for weighted ranges, coming in the upcoming 2-3 months. We will also probably add support for mixed strategies Nash equilibrium approximations with this addition.

We also have a mobile edition of SNG Coach launching within a month, which will allow to use our SNG Coach on smartphones and tablets.

Hi. Please send me the detailed hand history to support@icmpoker.com and I'll show you how to set it up. The hand history text is best. Note that you need to be using MTT mode on (checkbox below the table) for this type of calculations.

ICMIZER 2 update v2.7.0

• Added support for calculations in Progressive Knockout Tournaments (PKO) with our new updated IKCM model

• Create custom PKO tournaments and load PokerStars hands with bounties in ICMIZER

Is there articles or videos on the new pko feature and how you came up with the calculations and how the nash ranges change compared to regular tournies ?

Hi. Right now there are no videos or articles, but articles should be available soon, and videos probably soon after that. Tomorrow we do a coaching session with Collin Moshman and will look at the new PKO feature on Pokerstrategy, so tune in! http://www.pokerstrategy.net/coaching/

I this available to everyone or do you have to pay to watch ? Can we watch it at a later date?

Yeah but sometimes I want to quickly tweak the stack sizes a bit. Sometimes even 1 or 2 big blinds can affect the results. And trust me, for us nerds who want to minimize overhead of every minuscule thing, moving the hand from mouse to keyboard over and over to change the numbers is certainly an annoyance. A mouse function to increment the numbers would solve the annoyance.



I'm not talking about having the buttons being the only way to set the stacks, they would be a control to be used after the stacks are already initialized. It would be nice to have a mouse function to increment/decrement the stacks by a big or small blind whatever. Having to always use the keyboard to go back and forth between mouse and keyboard over and over to make tiny changes isn't optimal.

What would really be good is if you can make it so the scroll bar in the middle of the mouse affects the stack sizes. So when you put your mouse on top of a stack size, it enables the feature for that stack size because you put your mouse over it, and then scrolling the middle scroll wheel moves the numbers up and down accordingly.

My mistake, I misundestood how ranges for FGS work. I get it now, thanks for the answers!

Hi, yes it is available to everyone.
I am not sure if you need to have a free pokerstrategy account though, but that is the maximum requirement from what I gather.

The video will be available later, but it may take a few weeks till it is ready, so its best to join us today.

Ok ty