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Old 10-24-2016, 07:44 PM   #1651
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Re: ICMIZER 2

Hello there! Any update on implementing the Custom Quiz in the SNG Coach? Last time I asked it was about a year ago and nothing really have changed since... I personally play SNGs that are not part of the default section, as I am sure many others do too. It's crucial to be able to create your own payout structure and starting stacks/total BBs. For example let's say a 6max hyper SNG with starting stacks of 10bb shouldn't lead to a situation where all six players at the table are still in and you face a 20bb shove with a 20bb stack. Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:26 AM   #1652
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Re: ICMIZER 2

Hello,

I just started using ICMIZER and I wanted to check if I'm understanding it properly. This is a screenshot from a custom tourney I made which is a satellite where 1-3 place get a $30 ticket and 4th gets a $5 ticket.



Am I correct in reading that I should be making $14 in EV on pushing in this spot? I just want to double check because it seems a little high to be making almost 50% of first prize on calling a 6bb shove with 4 players left to knock out before I win the ticket, so I'm worried I might have set it up wrong.

Thanks!
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:02 PM   #1653
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Re: ICMIZER 2

Hi, why are MTT calculations disabled for KO sngs and tournaments? Is there any plan to include them?
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:25 PM   #1654
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Re: ICMIZER 2

Hi, I try to use ICMIZER but it can constantly frozen (whatever button I click). What can be the issue?
Already reinstalled app, but problem remain.



In IE browser all works fine.

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Old 10-27-2016, 06:40 PM   #1655
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Why sometimes do I get different results when I click "Calculate FGS2 Nash Equlibrium"and "Calculate FGS2"? I usualy click "Calculate FGS2" to see the card matrix and be able to copy and past the range, but sometimes there is a good difference in the % of hero push range. I'm using FGS2 Chip EV calculations.
Hi. These buttons work differently.
The calculate Nash button finds approximate Nash equilibrium solution for all players.
The Calculate button finds a precise range for hero, locking all other ranges.
I explain this effect in more detail in this article, which I recommend to read:

http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/anal...sh-fold-spots/

Hope it helps.
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Old 10-27-2016, 06:46 PM   #1656
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Re: ICMIZER 2

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Hello there! Any update on implementing the Custom Quiz in the SNG Coach? Last time I asked it was about a year ago and nothing really have changed since... I personally play SNGs that are not part of the default section, as I am sure many others do too. It's crucial to be able to create your own payout structure and starting stacks/total BBs. For example let's say a 6max hyper SNG with starting stacks of 10bb shouldn't lead to a situation where all six players at the table are still in and you face a 20bb shove with a 20bb stack. Thanks in advance!
Hi. The custom quiz button which is still not available isn't about allowing arbitrary quizze, its idea is to allow to choose blind levels, positions etc. with more detail in precision, than the zone selection screen allows. This is still planned, and isn't as hard as the feature which you are requesting.

But an arbitrary quiz which you request is also something we are considering. However there is no eta. We have big updates coming to our SNG Coach and they are coming quite soon, so stay tuned. We cannot do everything at once though
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Old 10-27-2016, 06:50 PM   #1657
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Hi, why are MTT calculations disabled for KO sngs and tournaments? Is there any plan to include them?
Hi. KO calculations are using IKCM model which isn't easy to extend to situations with more than 10 players (like MTT calculations require). So it is planned but not in our first priority list currently.
We plan serious improvements in MTT calculations speed and probably alongside we will add support for KO tournaments. Stay tuned for the updates.
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Old 10-27-2016, 06:52 PM   #1658
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Hi, I try to use ICMIZER but it can constantly frozen (whatever button I click). What can be the issue?
Already reinstalled app, but problem remain.



In IE browser all works fine.
Hi. This is weird problem. What kind of operation system is that?
Can you please send me an email at support@icmpoker.com with detailed overview of your system and I'll try to come up with a solution. However I must say tat there is a chance that this Windows became corrupted and it won't be able to recover unless you reinstall the OS from scratch. It's hard to say without more detail though.
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Old 10-27-2016, 06:55 PM   #1659
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Hello,

I just started using ICMIZER and I wanted to check if I'm understanding it properly. This is a screenshot from a custom tourney I made which is a satellite where 1-3 place get a $30 ticket and 4th gets a $5 ticket.



Am I correct in reading that I should be making $14 in EV on pushing in this spot? I just want to double check because it seems a little high to be making almost 50% of first prize on calling a 6bb shove with 4 players left to knock out before I win the ticket, so I'm worried I might have set it up wrong.

Thanks!
Hi. You are spot on with your suspicions. Aces show 49$ profit which ist't possible. What we cannot see from the screenshot is the prize pool size setting which can be seen when you click on the tournament button.
Make sure that it has a correct sum of $ (should be $95). With that handled I think you will see more meaningful results.
Let me know if this helps.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:28 AM   #1660
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Re: ICMIZER 2

hi am having trouble understanding FGS... have read article from the site and am still bit lost with the results in some spots.

is there a situation in a bubble spot of 6max hyper that you would opt to use regular ICM calc vs FGS??














have just used same calling / shoving ranges of villans... not sure if this is massively important or not but would be very hard to assign villan FGS ranges vs more default / standard ranges in these spots ...


would 2 be > then 1 because of SB more likely to clash and risk busting in 2 hands into future vs 1 hand? thanks for any help
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Old 11-12-2016, 02:40 PM   #1661
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Re: ICMIZER 2

it seems like PS finally added bounties to HH but now ICMIZER is refusing to load this hand

PokerStars Hand #161296326702: Tournament #1716578194, $3.57+$3.57+$0.36 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (50/100) - 2016/11/12 19:38:57 CET [2016/11/12 13:38:57 ET]
Table '1716578194 71' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: staubigirl (10113 in chips, $5.35 bounty)
Seat 2: mashek (932 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
Seat 4: tatkoto_bg (2507 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
Seat 5: cbrasil (2699 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
Seat 6: M477M (1756 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
staubigirl: posts the ante 25
mashek: posts the ante 25
tatkoto_bg: posts the ante 25
cbrasil: posts the ante 25
M477M: posts the ante 25
M477M: posts small blind 50
staubigirl: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mashek [4h Kh]
mashek: raises 807 to 907 and is all-in
tatkoto_bg: folds
cbrasil: raises 1767 to 2674 and is all-in
M477M: folds
staubigirl: folds
Uncalled bet (1767) returned to cbrasil
*** FLOP *** [8h Kd Qc]
*** TURN *** [8h Kd Qc] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [8h Kd Qc 5s] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mashek: shows [4h Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
cbrasil: shows [Jd Ad] (a pair of Kings)
mashek collected 2089 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2089 | Rake 0
Board [8h Kd Qc 5s Ks]
Seat 1: staubigirl (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: mashek showed [4h Kh] and won (2089) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: tatkoto_bg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cbrasil (button) showed [Jd Ad] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: M477M (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 11-14-2016, 06:15 PM   #1662
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it seems like PS finally added bounties to HH but now ICMIZER is refusing to load this hand

PokerStars Hand #161296326702: Tournament #1716578194, $3.57+$3.57+$0.36 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (50/100) - 2016/11/12 19:38:57 CET [2016/11/12 13:38:57 ET]
Table '1716578194 71' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: staubigirl (10113 in chips, $5.35 bounty)
Seat 2: mashek (932 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
Seat 4: tatkoto_bg (2507 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
Seat 5: cbrasil (2699 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
Seat 6: M477M (1756 in chips, $3.57 bounty)
staubigirl: posts the ante 25
mashek: posts the ante 25
tatkoto_bg: posts the ante 25
cbrasil: posts the ante 25
M477M: posts the ante 25
M477M: posts small blind 50
staubigirl: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mashek [4h Kh]
mashek: raises 807 to 907 and is all-in
tatkoto_bg: folds
cbrasil: raises 1767 to 2674 and is all-in
M477M: folds
staubigirl: folds
Uncalled bet (1767) returned to cbrasil
*** FLOP *** [8h Kd Qc]
*** TURN *** [8h Kd Qc] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [8h Kd Qc 5s] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mashek: shows [4h Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
cbrasil: shows [Jd Ad] (a pair of Kings)
mashek collected 2089 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2089 | Rake 0
Board [8h Kd Qc 5s Ks]
Seat 1: staubigirl (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: mashek showed [4h Kh] and won (2089) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: tatkoto_bg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cbrasil (button) showed [Jd Ad] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: M477M (small blind) folded before Flop
Hi mashxx!

We've added support for change in this format.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:26 PM   #1663
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Re: ICMIZER 2

hi. i play on a site that doesn't save HH so I'm mostly interested in the sng coach feature.

Have you considered adding a price point for just the coach without the icmizer replayer, just the 3 free calcs per day?
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Old 11-15-2016, 08:05 PM   #1664
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hi. i play on a site that doesn't save HH so I'm mostly interested in the sng coach feature.

Have you considered adding a price point for just the coach without the icmizer replayer, just the 3 free calcs per day?
Hi.
No, we do not have plans to introduce more subscription plans or options in the near future.
Our pricing options and subscription mechanics are already quite complicated and with more products coming in we need to minimize the number of available choices.
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:46 AM   #1665
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Can we get a "chance of going bust" and "chance of not getting called" and "chance of doubling up" or whatever; i think these are really important questions to be asking ourselves before making potentially marginal shoves

How would we manually figure these out in the mean time??
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Old 11-19-2016, 11:13 AM   #1666
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Hi mashxx!

We've added support for change in this format.
What do u mean?
I cant load pko hhs either
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Old 11-19-2016, 03:18 PM   #1667
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Yeah Q, it's still not working.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:25 PM   #1668
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What do u mean?
I cant load pko hhs either
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Yeah Q, it's still not working.
Hi. Apparently it worked for 4 days, and has stopped working on Friday.
We've fixed the issue, and it should work as expected now.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:30 PM   #1669
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Can we get a "chance of going bust" and "chance of not getting called" and "chance of doubling up" or whatever; i think these are really important questions to be asking ourselves before making potentially marginal shoves

How would we manually figure these out in the mean time??
Hi. Chance of going bust has been available in ICMIZER 2 for quite a while.
It can be accessed under XX detailed result button for individual hands.
I highlighted it on the screenshot:


Note that if it is 0% it usually means that you have your opponent covered.
As for the rest values—we could add those too, if there are more requests for them from our customers.
So far you are first to request them.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:14 AM   #1670
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I have an issue with the SNG coach quiz. Next to everyone's chip count is the number of BBs they have. However, this number is rounded to the nearest 0.5 (2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4 etc). Can't it just display the BB with one decimal place without rounding it to the nearest .5?
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:07 AM   #1671
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Hi. Apparently it worked for 4 days, and has stopped working on Friday.
We've fixed the issue, and it should work as expected now.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
I confirm that 90man KOs are being imported correctly
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:17 AM   #1672
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Very nice to know you already have this feature! Q do you have a DEFINITIVE instruction manual on ALL the features of Icmizer? I have watched all the videos on the website and some others from strategy websites yet i missed this feature and I have been using the program for over a year!

To other players please recommend adding a "chance of not getting called" stat and to a lesser extent "chance of doubling up" because these can be incredibly important information to use when shoving in spots we may consider marginal but could be highly profitable when you take into account of how infrequently we get called and get to turn our 9bb stack into an 11.5bb stack by taking the blinds and antes
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:26 AM   #1673
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Forgot to add could you make the window with that data a bit nicer to look at?

Or at least have the change of getting called, change of doubling up at the top where the chance of busting is?
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:43 PM   #1674
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I have an issue with the SNG coach quiz. Next to everyone's chip count is the number of BBs they have. However, this number is rounded to the nearest 0.5 (2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4 etc). Can't it just display the BB with one decimal place without rounding it to the nearest .5?
Hi. Yes, we could do that. I'll put it for review on our to-do list.
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:46 PM   #1675
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Very nice to know you already have this feature! Q do you have a DEFINITIVE instruction manual on ALL the features of Icmizer? I have watched all the videos on the website and some others from strategy websites yet i missed this feature and I have been using the program for over a year!

To other players please recommend adding a "chance of not getting called" stat and to a lesser extent "chance of doubling up" because these can be incredibly important information to use when shoving in spots we may consider marginal but could be highly profitable when you take into account of how infrequently we get called and get to turn our 9bb stack into an 11.5bb stack by taking the blinds and antes
Hi. Unfortunately, we do not have a DEFINITIVE instruction manual. We plan to have it at some point, indeed it would help with issues like this one.
However, it is mentioned in our icmizer 2 feature list for example: http://www.icmpoker.com/en/icmizer-2-features/

I believe its our problem that you didn't realize this feature existed for more than a year and we will try to find an efficient solution to address it.

The problem with definitive guides is that almost noone will read them, so for most customers the features like this will remain unknown.
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