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I am afraid that in this case I have absolutely no control over behavior of this file opening dialog. Maybe its behavior indeed differs on different machines for some reason. Due to security limitations, Silverlight has very limited file system access.

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06-26-2013 , 02:07 AM

#302

bbfreak

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 317

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/bwum.jpg/

1) mtt bug!! total silly results. cannot analyze this spot. + the evcheck messes things up addionally. i never get the same results by just clicking back and forth. results are totally random
2) had again the error message with the internet connection

3) when i wanna analyze several final 2 table spots in serial: the total number of chips is NOT changeable. have to close the program every time

4) when is the bug fixed i reported some time ago: i raise and 2 allins after me
ty

Last edited by bbfreak; 06-26-2013 at 02:19 AM.

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06-26-2013 , 08:48 AM

#303

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Hey bbfreak, nice catch

1) MTT check ev analysis for 10 players or less is random indeed. That was made intentionally cause I didnt think of spot which you present on screenshot, will fix quickly.
2) In 1.3.1 update I have some fixes regarding this, and it will be ready this week.
3) When you cannot edit total chips, you do not need to close program. Just expand MTT stacks viewer, and switch from manual mode to random.

In manual mode Chips Sum is sum of manually entered stacks. Please refer this article regarding two modes: http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/en...cm-calculator/

4) Soon. Sorry for it taking so long.

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06-26-2013 , 04:27 PM

#304

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

ICMIZER update v1.3.1

• ICMIZER now remembers last stacks, ranges, payouts, etc. before it was closed, and shows them at start
• Seriously improved general performance, especially for MTT hands parsing and final table calculations
• Relocated MTT details window

Bug fixes:

• several little bugs are fixed including 1 and 4 from bbfreak list.
• "Unable to connect to service" message should not be displayed now, when server side error occurres
• Fixed problem highlighted by sheeprustler earlier in this thread,

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I'm having a problem where the big blind is automatically set to 100% calling range when I am adjusting the chipstack from the sb or button. When I type in the first number of say '400' it reads it as 4 automatically and classes the bb as not having a decision. This does not change when I fill in the next two zeros.

This is not happening anymore

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06-26-2013 , 05:42 PM

#305

0desmu1

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,556

Hi,

LOVE the program so far.

I would like to see a feature implemented however. It would be awesome if the program could calculate and display a chart for the hands hero can profitable call a designated 3bet shove range from his opponent after putting in the first preflop raise. I am a HUSnG player and this analysis would be invaluable. Currently I am using another program to calculate this but it's a clunky and slow process. Would love to see this feature available in ICMizer.

Thanks.

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06-26-2013 , 05:47 PM

#306

0desmu1

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,556

A quick way to implement this would be showing the ev our opponent's calling range when we calculate our 3betshoving range against their open and calling range (a feature already available in your program). The program already calculates the ev for all our hands for our 3bet range chart so it shouldn't be difficult to calculate and display the ev our opponent's calling range chart.

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06-26-2013 , 08:58 PM

#307

bbfreak

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 317

ty for all the bugfixes. everything works fine now
point 3 was due to my braindeadness lol

a fullyear sub will be a nobrainer for me soon^^

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06-27-2013 , 08:30 AM

#308

bbfreak

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 317

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5186/p41n.jpg

is it possible to implement the elimination element?

i had 2.3:1. 86o is probably too weak. but i can imagine there are hands which are worth calling, but too weak to push.
if bb plays honest, he wont exploit me bc i am the chipleader. he'll overcall often to eliminate (checkdown) the shorty.

can you implement: co push, sb call. bb pushes for example 6%. but calls 50%.
?

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06-27-2013 , 09:45 AM

#309

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Hey, this kind of spot you can analyze both courses of actions:
1) where you consider shove over UTG all-in before calling him (http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#SLBm)
2) presented on screenshot, where you choose to call, but BB pushes.

Then choose what is best to do.
Anything outside of this is not planned currently.

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06-27-2013 , 11:46 AM

#310

bbfreak

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 317

hm ty. i think i got it

but what is confusing: in the link you gave: there is a brace below: hero push.
after CO went allin it should be written hero push (because we overpush) and not Hero call !?

am i right?

icmizer gives so many new options. since i am a theory freak i have to ask a lot unfortunately

Last edited by bbfreak; 06-27-2013 at 12:01 PM.

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06-27-2013 , 12:41 PM

#311

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Those braces are there to inform you that first column of ranges affects hero Push EV, and other ranges affect Hero Fold ev.

Actual specifics of shove type (call,open shove, raise-call or overcall, etc.) do not affect how calcultions are performed.

All questions are welcome, do not worry.
Thanks.

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06-27-2013 , 01:22 PM

#312

bbfreak

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 317

i know that first colums is for hero-allin. would be hilarious not to know that after using it 2.5 months^^

i meant that when somebody raises and hero shoves the program shows
"hero push". but when somebody is allin before hero, and hero has him covered, the program says: "hero call" instead of hero push.

that causes some confusion.
and if if click call: it says hero bets^^

i dont know if you find it necessary to change that. i find the labeling a bit unprecise
anyway i did get it . ty

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06-27-2013 , 03:03 PM

#313

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Hey, yep I understand it. Most people are already used to this notation, so I dont think I will change it, its pretty easy to understand after couple of uses.

Also for overcall for example its not displayed as overcall action, its displayed as either all-in or call.

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06-28-2013 , 07:21 AM

#314

rhalala

banned

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 377

someone point me that icimizer doesnt take in count blockers.. is that true?

If i stay SB and Ax icmizer does not calculate less chance/weight to have Ax in the range of vilain?

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06-28-2013 , 08:37 AM

#315

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Someone is very wrong.

ICMIZER provides most precise calculations, and of course for precise calculations it is required to take into account blockers/card removal effect etc.

Please refer this article for more details: details about ICMIZER calculation algorithm

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07-05-2013 , 04:45 PM

#316

bushell

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 364

What is the daily limit of calcs?

I hit it today, and dont know how to contact support.

No funny business, just been creating a spreadsheet of results.

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07-05-2013 , 08:35 PM

#317

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Daily limit is there as just precausion against account sharing abuse.

All calculations are unlimited for any user who contacts me once he hits default limit.
I check account history, and remove the limit.

I will remove your limits if you let me know your account name.

Last edited by Q; 07-05-2013 at 08:58 PM.

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07-10-2013 , 06:52 PM

#318

Bizeeey

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 125

Hi I got ICMizer a week ago, but since a few hours whenever I try to boot it up it only shows a white screen. Any idea on how to fix this?

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07-11-2013 , 01:53 AM

#319

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Hey Bizeeey.

First of try to clear cache in your browser and make sure you are opening the right link:
http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/

Try to open it from various browsers too, to be sure that the problem isn't with your browser. If it doesn't help contact me via email or PM and we will investigate together what went wrong.

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07-11-2013 , 06:27 AM

#320

Bizeeey

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 125

I have tried opening it in other browsers but it didn't wrork. Clearing cache in Chrome did work though. Thanks, Q.

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07-11-2013 , 09:17 AM

#321

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Great, glad to help !

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07-12-2013 , 04:45 AM

#322

KelvinKe

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,173

Just renewed my 3 months subscription to ICMIZER. Thank you Q for this great product and wonderful customer services/support!

Got a question:
For the 'Blinds' levels, I tried adding new blind levels of: SB = 0.5, BB = 1 by clicking the plus sign. I think by simplifying blind levels to its most basic format will allow for a lot quicker calculations. However I get an error message 'Invalid number format'. How easy/if it is possible to allow users to add this blind level with the decimal?

Thank you in advance

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07-12-2013 , 05:31 AM

#323

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Hey KelvinKe, thanks for kind words! =)

I have been considering adding this kind of blind structure cause I also think it can be useful for various scenarios.

It will be implemented sometime, but right now I am very busy with other more important features.

Closest thing is using 5/10 I guess currently. ICMIZER initially had strong tournament background, and all blinds are treated as integer numbers. Changing it isn't as easy as I would like it to be.

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07-13-2013 , 10:06 PM

#324

fellatiado

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 71

Hi,

WHat do you feel about this ranges? Feels like I could push wider

http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#mzcO

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07-14-2013 , 04:23 AM

#325

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,651

Hey.

Well if CO only raises 17% here and calls with half of his hands, your shoving range is pretty thin when we run an ICM calculation.

Check that if you remove ICM factor, and run a ChipEV calculation your range becomes 17% http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#nBhb

Note that you are facing a big stack, and bust scenario is pretty bad outcome for you, given that there is also player at the table who has only 4000 chips

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