Their are two Major AI enhancements. One is for preflop and one is for postflop. The postflop is top secret , but the preflop is going to be using AI to predict how two of the world's best pros play each hand in each situation.

So basically in the future the preflop advice is basically going to be "here's what these two awesome pros would do in this situation". That might sound easy, but we've already done the easy stuff. The harder stuff is in this position, with this stack, with this hand, facing this opponent with these stats, what should we do?

This is nothing remotely as complex as post flop. It's a nice improvement simply because we haven't focused too much attention on preflop. Deep stack post flop is about 1000x harder than preflop -- and we've focused most of our effort there -- ironically somewhat at the expense of the easiest place -- preflop.


Right now we only use profiling data about what you've imported into our program. If you are a PT or HEM customer, in the future we'll query their databases for profiling info. Also, we'll make import easier -- so you can see in a window all the hands you've imported into these products -- and choose which one's you want us to analyze.

"At $200 and above, our AI's weakness at the 3 and 4 bet preflop game would get exploited enough by the pros that it would probably only make a little profit or breakeven."

LOLOLOLOL

Let's be fair, they gave you a run for your money in that video you made. I think you came somewhere near break even after nearly an hour of the highest stakes imaginable, rebuying several times. You fought valiantly, but ******ed ho and ******* dingleberry had your number.

I'm pretty sure I could link to the blog, but just google "Fender wave of mutilation".

I was definitely close to being severely outclassed. I got lucky what can I say!? Lucky to make a small profit or barely break even

Hi pbehrman,

remember me? I'm the dude you lied to over in the thread at Deucescracked.

To my questions:

you replied:

Nah, you just take another minor ethical inconvenience by lying to me, the entire DC community and subsequently to the entire 2p2 community aswell (to make a few bucks I suppose).

I told you that I'm not quick with the pitchfork. Well guess what? I'm fiercely wielding it right now. You sir, are an admitted cheater and a proven liar. The poker community doesn't need scum like you.

Let's also not forget this gold nugget of a quote of yours:

No dude. HERE'S WHY!

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I used SNG power tools some time ago, and I got a ton of help from it.

I haven't used this tools in some time.

Last time I used it, I had to manually enter in what hand I thought my opponent had for a specific end game situation, enter my hand, etc. and then find how what is right given those assumptions.

Here's what we plan to do (similar to cash), we'll use ICM and opponent ranges of course to tell people if they make a mistake after playing a hand. And, we we'll be able to import a bunch of old hands and tell people that they call to much on the bubble or don't raise enough etc.

Do any of the existing programs do this?

I'm pretty excited about it, because we've done the hard part -- playing deep stack. Computers are even better at the end game where the Independent Chip Model is so easy for computers.

Paul,

I am taking your survey. Why do you need our poker site username? This seems fishy.

Thanks.

We used this same survey in the past to do a Beta User test with players from a very small entraction network skin. We wanted to be sure users would not use the free licence with another skin, that would have not been cool for the skin who helped us doing this test. That's why we needed their username to limit the licence to hands played with this username.

That does not apply anymore, so you can simply answer anything you want to this question. I'm going to remove it.

Thanks for reporting it.

Paul,

I generally find these internet witch hunts distasteful, however something's bothering me and I'd appreciate an honest answer.

Earlier in this thread :

This gives the impression you were solo two years ago bar the players you tried to organise to run your bot. Since then you've partnered up and gone legit. OK, I'm indifferent to this.

However, the Holy Grail website seems to completely contradict that with :

and

Clarification would be appreciated.

Thanks.

What makes you think you are going to get an honest answer when Paul has already lied to you once?

My glass is always half full.

Yours ?

I am a pretty optimistic guy too overall

To all the voices of doom out there, give the guy a break. The whole reason we play poker is to make a few bucks. If a program can teach you to play poker better bring it on! Everybody is so scared about average poker players getting better. Communist Clowns.

Hey Tommy Hopp would you consider yourself a Blissful guy?

Very Blissful. In fact Im so blissful I skip instead of walk and whistle broadway show tunes while I play poker.
Seriously I was trying to read about the program and if it had any merits and I had to go thru 15 pages of hall room moniters clowning on the guy trying to figure out if he lied 3 years ago. The program is harmless. It's more like a practice tool to goof around with.

hi, can anybody who's tryed both this software and the pokeracademy software comment on the pros/cons of each one? looking to try both the trials and make a decision from there..

I agree that some mod that makes the table action clearer (bets and pot size etc) would be a helpful addition to the software.

zero

tried it out

had some fun beating up the table

wish i could do this against real people unless i am just too scared to try

cliffs(facts) on the controversy in this thread please?

oh is in this thread maybe;

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...botter-904198/

The AI assumes customers play average poker initially. I think (because it's play money) people are more aggressive than normal. It takes some time for the AI to adapt to you, but it should be harder to "beat up the table" when they know how aggressive you are.

It should become more challenging over time if your play departs from average.

Yep. It's a good suggestion. We'll do this, but it isn't in the next release.

Paul not be douchey for no reason, but I think the mods should edit:
"OP is admitted cheater and proven liar"
into the thread title just to be fair and keep everything transparent before people go into business with you.

Uninstalling your program now. IMO I can't trust it.


just to be more clear:
it seems to me that this program is designed to trick players into helping him improve the skill level of his bots so that he can use them to play against us for real money at the tables, essentially cheating us(honest poker players) out of our money in more ways than one.

If you don't trust us, and you still have doubts on this program you can use an antivirus to check that it does not contain any virus or trojan, and you can use a firewall to check that it does not send any information over the internet.

All feedback we get from users, will only be used to improve the software itself, and not for anything else.

Basically they tried to bot but got caught and now developed into a program that can improve your game to make a few bucks that way. Thats all. business ...

i have the program working and importing hands but i am not actually getting any advice when i go to the monitoring tab. I know it sees my hands because they show up in the monitoring section. The advice column however stays blank.