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Old 08-31-2018, 05:54 AM   #101
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Ok, thanks for providing quick and detailed response. It's super helpful as usual
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:51 PM   #102
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Hi, let's say I'd like to calculate 3bet-push against custom range in different stacks.

Am I right in saying that it is needed to edit the opening range manually every time? I can't see how to either paste range or save it.
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:03 PM   #103
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

You can copy/paste ranges in the strategy table on the left side via Ctrl+C/V. There is currently no way to save ranges in the program, but you could e.g. make an Excel sheet or store them in a simple text file.
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:26 PM   #104
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You can copy/paste ranges in the strategy table on the left side via Ctrl+C/V. There is currently no way to save ranges in the program, but you could e.g. make an Excel sheet or store them in a simple text file.
I was talking about Restrict Calculation Scope window.

But it seems your way can work for me if I set the required range in the 1st hand -> create multiple hands -> copy/paste the range for every hand -> resolve, right?

I have not been using HRC for a while and I'd hoped there would be some changes in this regard. I read in the blog that it was added a support for pasting ranges in SimplePostFlop range format. Do you maybe have some plans on this matter? E.g. I'd like to have an opportunity to copy/paste complex ranges with a lot of weights from PioSolver to HRC.

Anyway, thanks for your answer.
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:46 AM   #105
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

If you can post a few examples of the PioSolver range format, this can be supported fairly quickly.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:57 AM   #106
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If you can post a few examples of the PioSolver range format, this can be supported fairly quickly.
My apologies, this works already if we're talking about the strategy table. It turned out that PioSolver range should be rounded to 3 decimal places.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:43 AM   #107
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Feature Request: As it currently is when editing ranges we have to click on each individual box in the matrix thing. Can that be changed so we can "draw" in it and have it select the boxes like in flopzilla/equilab/etc?
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:53 AM   #108
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I'll rewrite the hand grid/editor next week, i'll check if this can be implemented.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:27 AM   #109
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Hello

Is there a tutorial on how FGS works?
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:22 PM   #110
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FGS provides more accurate equity estimates by calculating the next n rounds of play and only plugging in ICM for the last round, instead of plugging ICM estimates at the end of the current hand.

Usage of FGS is fairly straightforward, you simply select FGS as equity model instead of ICM and don't really have to change much otherwise. Using the small icon on the right side of the equity model selection, you can open the FGS details. The most important option there is the calculation depth. The default is 1 future round, for best results set this to the highest value that still results in acceptable runtime. Note that runtime grows very fast with increasing number of players / simulated rounds, so this might take some trial and error to figure the best depth setting for each # of players.

Lmk if you still have questions, I'll probably do a short post on FGS details on the site in the near future.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:52 AM   #111
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Anyone figured out a way to work on spots w/ BB Ante format? I've just been using 10% ante's but not sure that is 100% accurate
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:09 AM   #112
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Hi plexiq,

I was wondering if it is possible to make specifying the betting structure more flexible in the future updates. There are two important issues.

1) HRC does not differ 3betting and squeezing. It would be very useful to restrict 3-betting opens, but to allow squeezing after open(ai) and flat-call. E.g. if shortstack is all-in HRC always choose to just flat-call all-in anyway.

2) It is possible to select actions preceding the first decision of interest to speed up calculations, but it would be equally useful to select actions following such decision (e.g. make all positions after UTG fold if UTG fold). It's even implemented in some software such as MonkerSolver.

These changes could definitely speed up calculations, especially if you are planning to support 4+ way all-ins afaik. Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:57 PM   #113
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Hi plexiq,

I was wondering if it is possible to make specifying the betting structure more flexible in the future updates. There are two important issues.

1) HRC does not differ 3betting and squeezing. It would be very useful to restrict 3-betting opens, but to allow squeezing after open(ai) and flat-call. E.g. if shortstack is all-in HRC always choose to just flat-call all-in anyway.

2) It is possible to select actions preceding the first decision of interest to speed up calculations, but it would be equally useful to select actions following such decision (e.g. make all positions after UTG fold if UTG fold). It's even implemented in some software such as MonkerSolver.

These changes could definitely speed up calculations, especially if you are planning to support 4+ way all-ins afaik. Thanks in advance.
More advanced ways to setup/edit the game tree are planned, I'll keep these suggestions in mind. Note that for 2) the actions behind actually impact the ranges of interest (at least for $EV calculations), that's the reason why this isn't supported as of now. I agree that it'd still be an useful option to have though.

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Anyone figured out a way to work on spots w/ BB Ante format? I've just been using 10% ante's but not sure that is 100% accurate
Modifying the stacks at the beginning of the hand should work, so you have the correct stacks after posting. For FGS it obviously won't correctly consider that future BBs will pay the full antes though.

I'm happy to add direct support for this if it gets more popular, it looks like the rules are not quite settled in detail? (e.g. if antes are posted before or after blinds in this variant)
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Old 09-27-2018, 08:45 AM   #114
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Modifying the stacks at the beginning of the hand should work, so you have the correct stacks after posting. For FGS it obviously won't correctly consider that future BBs will pay the full antes though.

I'm happy to add direct support for this if it gets more popular, it looks like the rules are not quite settled in detail? (e.g. if antes are posted before or after blinds in this variant)
I'm probably biased as I play a lot of live tournaments that all us BB Ante but I would love to see it in the future. I think most are leaning towards the BB being posted first but I know it's not 100% across the board.

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Old 10-17-2018, 07:37 AM   #115
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Feature Request: As it currently is when editing ranges we have to click on each individual box in the matrix thing. Can that be changed so we can "draw" in it and have it select the boxes like in flopzilla/equilab/etc?
This is available in today's beta update, you can now add/remove hands by drawing on the grid with the left/right mouse button pressed.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:23 AM   #116
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

hi,plexiq!

please help

how to make next calculation?
Effective stack is 20BB
BTN opens 2BB - > BB pushes 20BB - > BTN calls
I set hand range on BTN's open and push call and need to calculate profitable push range for BB- how to do that?

for example i lock BTN range
open = 41.2%, 22+ Ax K2s+ K5o+ Q7s+ Q8o+ J7s+ JTo T7s+ 97s+ 86s+ 76s 65s 54s
push call = 10.4%, 44+ A9s+ ATo+ KQs
push (BB) = ?

I created next strategy:

R 40 BU 41.2%, 22+ Ax K2s+ K5o+ Q7s+ Q8o+ J7s+ JTo T7s+ 97s+ 86s+ 76s 65s 54s
3B 398 BB 17.3%, 22+ A3s+ A7o+ KTs+ QTs+ JTs
C 358 BU 10.4%, 44+ A9s+ ATo+ KQs

I can lock BTN open and BTN push call but I cannot unlock BB push for calculation (
see picture http://joxi.ru/Q2K1oDgu4E4bNr


as I know such kind of calculation can be made by CardRunners EV software

thanks in advance )
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:28 AM   #117
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

You should be able to unlock it, unless you specified that action as part of the last dialog page where you can restrict the calculation. In that case, either simply skip the last dialog page entirely, or stop adding actions after the BU open.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:11 AM   #118
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

plexiq, thanks a lot it works

is it normal that i can push 100% hands (see strategy below) if BU opens 40% and calls 10% (locked)?
in reality I would not push 100% in this spot (of cause i am not best player and maybe I do not understand something)

R 40 BU 41.2%, 22+ Ax K2s+ K5o+ Q7s+ Q8o+ J7s+ JTo T7s+ 97s+ 86s+ 76s 65s 54s
3B 199 BB 100.0%, Any two
C 159 BU 10.4%, 44+ A9s+ ATo+ KQs
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:45 PM   #119
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^ That looks correct, yes.

Assuming 10/20 blinds, BB barely needs any equity when called to make pushing profitable. Risking 180 to win 60 needs to work only 3 in 4 times to show immediate profit, and BU only continues with 1/4 of his range there.

Once you factor in the ~25% equity when called by BU's range, this is very clearly profitable with any two cards.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:38 PM   #120
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

plexiq,

1. are numbers in the table EV (expected value)?
http://joxi.ru/eAOWo0Etxl66bA

2. What edge should I take for practical use? what does it depend on?
http://joxi.ru/ZrJkoOBf9lbbGm
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:42 AM   #121
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That's a ChipEV calculation, so the EV/edge are both in big blinds. For example the A8o marked in your screenshot wins +1.97bb on average when pushing/calling in this spot, compared to folding it.

I'd recommend to generally use an edge of zero by default, unless you have spot-specific reasons to do otherwise.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:31 AM   #122
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plexiq, thanks!
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:51 AM   #123
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

plexiq,

are there any videos about HRC - how to use it ? manuals?
but links you gave earlier from pokerstrategy
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:02 AM   #124
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

The main documentation can be found at Help: Help Contents. There are no official videos available, but there are plenty of 3rd party HRC videos (youtube, various coaching sites, etc).

I'll look into getting some official tutorial videos done once the current beta features go stable, as there are a lot of UI changes.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:49 PM   #125
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Downloading beta for hand matrix selection

Still would like to see BB Ante in the future updates

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