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Old 05-01-2018, 03:15 PM   #26
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I like HRC a lot, but sometimes I face the issue with the decision tree that shows 0 or 100% for each and every item. Here is the step by step example of what I am doing after trying to "replay" the hand by using advanced setup in order to speed up calculations - the stack sizes are pre-filled from the hand history, I enter the sequence of events according to the same hand history.



Here is the result I get:

However, if I don't enter the sequence of actions, the result seems to be OK, though slightly different from the automatic analysis. Why does it happen?
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:47 AM   #27
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I need help, what is the solution?
Did you try to update to the beta before this happened? In that case you probably made some mistake when adding the beta repository.

Go to Window: Preferences: Install/Update: Available Software Sites, delete the existing update sites, then add the beta repository again as described here.

Alternatively simply re-install HRC, that will also fix it.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:58 AM   #28
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I like HRC a lot, but sometimes I face the issue with the decision tree that shows 0 or 100% for each and every item. Here is the step by step example of what I am doing after trying to "replay" the hand by using advanced setup in order to speed up calculations - the stack sizes are pre-filled from the hand history, I enter the sequence of events according to the same hand history.

However, if I don't enter the sequence of actions, the result seems to be OK, though slightly different from the automatic analysis. Why does it happen?
When you use the last page of the dialog to restrict action, the program cuts away parts of the game tree and as a consequence it will no longer be able to calculate the EV for some ranges. This means you have to define these ranges manually. If you prefer automatic calculation then simply stop restricting actions *before* the range you are interested in, if you want to calculate the EV for a certain range then don't add its action in the restricted sequence.

In the screenshot for the "Spot Selection" page, you can see two restricted ranges with red 0% text in the lower part of the dialog. These ranges are locked to 0% as you can also see from the locked icons in the last screenshot. That's what is causing the other ranges to remain at 0% as well. You can either click on the red ranges in the setup dialog to specify a different range before calculation, or you can also modify them later. But these restricted actions can't be automatically calculated.

Btw, you don't need to set all bet sizes to all-in, if you leave them empty then that defaults to all-in anyway.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:36 PM   #29
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When you use the last page of the dialog to restrict action, the program cuts away parts of the game tree and as a consequence it will no longer be able to calculate the EV for some ranges. This means you have to define these ranges manually. If you prefer automatic calculation then simply stop restricting actions *before* the range you are interested in, if you want to calculate the EV for a certain range then don't add its action in the restricted sequence.

In the screenshot for the "Spot Selection" page, you can see two restricted ranges with red 0% text in the lower part of the dialog. These ranges are locked to 0% as you can also see from the locked icons in the last screenshot. That's what is causing the other ranges to remain at 0% as well. You can either click on the red ranges in the setup dialog to specify a different range before calculation, or you can also modify them later. But these restricted actions can't be automatically calculated.

Btw, you don't need to set all bet sizes to all-in, if you leave them empty then that defaults to all-in anyway.
Thanks, that worked! Could you also explain the small difference in results from automatic analysis, manual advanced analysis and manual basic analysis? For example I tried to analyse the following hand
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PokerStars - 500/1000 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 9.89 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 48.3 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: 13.58 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 30.2 BB
MP+1: 47.76 BB
Hero (CO): 19.34 BB
BTN: 3.74 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 34)
SB: 24.44 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, UTG+1 raises to 13.48 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

UTG+1 wins 3.3 BB

====
The automatic analysis tells that I should push 7.5% and EV of 66 is 0.15 :
The manual basic analysis tells that I should push 8% and EV of 66 is 0.10:

Finally, the advanced analysis tells that I should push 8% and EV of 66 is 0.09!

Does it happen because automatic analysis is using ICM model? If so, how does it know the payout structure? Thanks!
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:17 PM   #30
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

The automatic Quick Analyze mode uses ICM, you can specify the payout structure in the dialog that starts the calculation. These calculations are tuned for speed and are less accurate by design, the idea is to be able to quickly screen through entire sessions and find spots that were potential mistakes. Small differences between Quick Analyze results and a full analysis are normal.

Basic Hand and Advanced Hand calculations should be identical except for some minor differences regarding initialization. The Basic Hand setup uses a special initialization that is optimized for push-or-fold hands, Advanced Hand calculations use a more generic initialization. For that reason Basic Hand will give slightly more accurate results with the default number of iterations. If you run some additional iterations with the green "Run Nash Calculation" button in the toolbar, then Advanced/Basic calculations should eventually both show exactly the same results if the hand setup is otherwise identical.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:44 AM   #31
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The automatic Quick Analyze mode uses ICM, you can specify the payout structure in the dialog that starts the calculation. These calculations are tuned for speed and are less accurate by design, the idea is to be able to quickly screen through entire sessions and find spots that were potential mistakes. Small differences between Quick Analyze results and a full analysis are normal.

Basic Hand and Advanced Hand calculations should be identical except for some minor differences regarding initialization. The Basic Hand setup uses a special initialization that is optimized for push-or-fold hands, Advanced Hand calculations use a more generic initialization. For that reason Basic Hand will give slightly more accurate results with the default number of iterations. If you run some additional iterations with the green "Run Nash Calculation" button in the toolbar, then Advanced/Basic calculations should eventually both show exactly the same results if the hand setup is otherwise identical.
Thank you for the prompt, detailed and extremely helpful reply.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:23 PM   #32
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When you use the last page of the dialog to restrict action, the program cuts away parts of the game tree and as a consequence it will no longer be able to calculate the EV for some ranges. This means you have to define these ranges manually. If you prefer automatic calculation then simply stop restricting actions *before* the range you are interested in, if you want to calculate the EV for a certain range then don't add its action in the restricted sequence.

In the screenshot for the "Spot Selection" page, you can see two restricted ranges with red 0% text in the lower part of the dialog. These ranges are locked to 0% as you can also see from the locked icons in the last screenshot. That's what is causing the other ranges to remain at 0% as well. You can either click on the red ranges in the setup dialog to specify a different range before calculation, or you can also modify them later. But these restricted actions can't be automatically calculated.

Btw, you don't need to set all bet sizes to all-in, if you leave them empty then that defaults to all-in anyway.
Running into the same issue here.

So basically, I'm not allowed to detail the actions per player and get an automatically calculated range?
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Old 05-06-2018, 06:04 PM   #33
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Right, if you want ranges to be calculated automatically then don't enter them in the last dialog page. This page is only used to speed up calculations, simply skip it if you want to calculate everything automatically.
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Old 05-08-2018, 01:47 PM   #34
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Let's say I played the following hand:
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PokerStars - 300/600 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 31.24 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+1: 22.51 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 23.11 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 35.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+1: 20.58 BB (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 32)
CO: 5.78 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
BTN: 3.57 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 10.94 BB (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (BB): 6.71 BB

8 players post ante of 0.08 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.17 BB) Hero has 4 3

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 20.5 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.62 BB and is all-in

Flop: (14.42 BB, 2 players) J 5 T

Turn: (14.42 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (14.42 BB, 2 players) 7

Hero shows 4 3 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 37%, Flop 26%, Turn 32%)
MP+1 shows 8 A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 63%, Flop 74%, Turn 68%)
Hero wins 14.42 BB
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and I want to analyze it. Basic analysis shows that my call was actually -EV:
Now I want to figure out what the push range of the original raiser should look like so that I can profitably call with 43s. Is that possible with HRC? I recall that I saw a video where they show how to do that by using "Plot Range vs Hand equities", but I don't remember the details and can't find the video. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:01 PM   #35
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First calculate everything like you already did, then:
1) Select the push range, right click, "Plot: Range vs Hand Equities"
2) Select your calling range as the "Equity Range" in the next dialog
3) Finally select 43s in the hand selection that follows

If you are not sure how to setup plots, the common concept is that the x-axis range is the one you have to select first and then start with Plot: etc.
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:08 PM   #36
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First calculate everything like you already did, then:
1) Select the push range, right click, "Plot: Range vs Hand Equities"
2) Select your calling range as the "Equity Range" in the next dialog
3) Finally select 43s in the hand selection that follows

If you are not sure how to setup plots, the common concept is that the x-axis range is the one you have to select first and then start with Plot: etc.
And thanks again, that's awesome!! One more thing - it's currently not possible to copy/paste ranges from and to the Range window, right? It would very helpful, for example if I want to copy ranges to Equilab or Flopzilla...
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:18 AM   #37
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You can't paste into the range edit dialog, no. But you can select a range in the strategy table on the left and then copy / paste there, you can then edit the pasted range in the range edit dialog if necessary.
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:26 AM   #38
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Post Feature request : ability to export the outcome of "Quick Analyze"

I think it would be nice to have the ability to save the output of "Quick Analyze" function to a CSV file. It might be useful if I want to use a custom stat for my game like "% of -EV push/fold decisions". Having the CSV file with the results I can quickly derive such a stat by using Excel or any other spreadsheet application.
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:04 PM   #39
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

What does EQPre% mean when you do FGS? It seems to vary depending on the depth of FGS, which doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:10 PM   #40
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@cizixap: Definitely a reasonable suggestion and I'll keep it in mind, for the near future there's already a bunch of other stuff planned though. A new beta version is coming soon.

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What does EQPre% mean when you do FGS? It seems to vary depending on the depth of FGS, which doesn't make sense to me.
EQPre% shows the equity estimates from the selected equity model for the chip stacks at the beginning of the hand, before any blinds or antes are posted. This is expected to vary depending on the depth of FGS.
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:49 PM   #41
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@cizixap: Definitely a reasonable suggestion and I'll keep it in mind, for the near future there's already a bunch of other stuff planned though. A new beta version is coming soon.



EQPre% shows the equity estimates from the selected equity model for the chip stacks at the beginning of the hand, before any blinds or antes are posted. This is expected to vary depending on the depth of FGS.
Right. So the actual equity I have in a spot, given I have to post blinds, play it and the next few hands is more like EquityPost% then?
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Old 05-15-2018, 06:30 PM   #42
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EqPre runs a single equity calculation for the starting stacks of the current hand.
EqPost runs an equity calculation for each of the possible end states in the current hand and then weights them according to the selected strategies.

These EqPre/EqPost values are closely related to ICM/FGS:
EqPre for FGS-1 equals EqPost for ICM.
EqPre for FGS-2 equals EqPost for FGS-1.
etc
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:46 AM   #43
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

considering buying this, is there any discount code for 2+2 users?
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:11 AM   #44
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Sorry for the late reply. There are no active discount promotions at this time, no.
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Old 05-20-2018, 02:36 AM   #45
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Hi,

I want to cancel my subscription for few months. I'm making payments but not receiving information in my email.
How can I cancel my subscription if my email has been changed?


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Old 05-20-2018, 02:47 AM   #46
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Easiest option is to cancel in the program at Help: Registration: Manage Subscription. If you no longer have it installed, then simply send me a short email with your license key to support@holdemresources.net and I'll cancel it manually for you.

Regarding questions via email:
I don't know your name/email, so can't comment on the specific case. I try to generally answer emails by the next working day, most routine requests get handled within 12h. Unfortunately sometimes emails slip through without getting answered, especially more general questions that require a longer answer. I set these aside to answer in detail later, and they then may end up unnoticed for an extended period.

Apologies if that has been the case for you, if you haven't received an answer after a few days then please send a short reminder. Or post the question itt, I'm much less likely to miss it here.

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Old 05-24-2018, 06:40 AM   #47
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Hi,

I'm having problems importing hand histories from PT4 into HRC. I normally export it from PT4 in .txt file and save it to my desktop. Now the problem starts when I want to open this file in HRC, i click Import from Hand Histories Files and search for the correct .txt file and when i click Open, nothing happens. Does anybody know what is the problem?
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:41 AM   #48
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What site are those histories from? If the site is in the supported list then please send me a few example histories to support@holdemresources.net.

As a short term work-around, you should be able to import hands from PT4 via the SQL import, regardless of the site format.
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:36 AM   #49
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histories are from Party Poker, I've just sent you the files.

Sorry but don't know how to import via SQL import, i get stuck here
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:53 AM   #50
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Re: HoldemResources Calculator [HRC]

Try "postgrespass" or "dbpass" as passwords, then click on "Select Database" and choose your db. Hit "Test Settings" to see if everything is correct, after that the SQL import should work.

The HH you sent already imports correctly for me, both for "Paste from CLipboard" in the hand setup and also with the HH file import. Maybe try to update to the Beta version:
http://www.holdemresources.net/hrc/faq/q/activatebeta
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