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09-20-2019 , 03:27 AM
I noticed that even in Monte Carlo mode there is a limit to the number of overcalls and overlimps (1 call and one overcall, just 1 overlimp).

I am wondering whether this was done intentionally or is this just a part of [Experimental] tag and can be updated.
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09-20-2019 , 03:45 AM
That is a restriction of the current user interface in the betting setup. The Monte Carlo engine itself is capable of allowing more than two flat calls / limps, the UI just doesn't give an option for that right now.

But given how basic HRC's Postflop modeling is at the moment (100% checked down), I don't think allowing more than two flats would be particularly useful in practice anyway. We'll allow more than two flats / limps when we update the UI in the future, but it's not a high priority at the moment. The initial stable release of the MC mode will only allow two flats.
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10-08-2019 , 04:28 PM
just bought HRC but it doesn't seem to work with ACR. Is there any way to look at ACR hands ?
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10-08-2019 , 05:50 PM
I believe ACR is on the WPN network? In that case it should be supported, please try the latest beta and if you still experience problems then send a few examples to support@holdemresources.net, so we can get it fixed. Thanks!

Beta:
https://www.holdemresources.net/blog...c-public-beta/
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10-11-2019 , 01:50 AM
Hi plexiq, since WPN has gone through more updates (again) is the beta version updated as well? I tried to download the beta version and it doesn’t work since the recent update.
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10-11-2019 , 03:53 AM
We currently don't have access to any WPN hands that wouldn't import on the latest beta. Please try with the beta and if you have any troubles importing then send us hands to support@holdemresources.net. We can't update the parsers without hand examples.
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10-12-2019 , 08:33 AM
Hi, I downloaded the beta version because I need to analyze commercials with bounty where more than 3 players go all in preflop, I would like to copy the tournament structures that I saved in the stable version, the file I have to copy is this?

C: Users AppData Local HoldemResources Calculator configurationSettings -> net.holdemresources.calculator.prefs?

If yes, in which beta version folder should I save it? I tried to copy anywhere but I can't import it, thanks
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10-12-2019 , 09:14 AM
That's the correct file. In the beta, select Tools: Structure Manager, then use the import option in the toolbar to load the prefs file.
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10-12-2019 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
That's the correct file. In the beta, select Tools: Structure Manager, then use the import option in the toolbar to load the prefs file.
Thanks, I succeeded. Please tell me how can I calculate spots where there is also a 4th + call to all in? I also tried the Montecarlo engine but it always gives me at most a 3rd call all in.

Last edited by Rick07; 10-12-2019 at 08:32 PM.
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10-12-2019 , 08:50 PM
Did you set the max number of players to >3 in the setup dialog?

The active player limit is set to 3 by default, even for the Monte Carlo mode. You can change it by clicking on the calculation mode option in the lower part of the hand setup dialog.
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10-12-2019 , 08:58 PM
Could you tell me even if it is possible to calculate a spot in FG on the bubble? Setting the FG setting makes me input stack and structure, but it doesn't ask me how many players are still in the game, so I think it sees it as a final table in this way, is there an 'MTT ICM FG' setting? Thanks
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10-12-2019 , 09:00 PM
That's not possible at this time, FGS currently only works for single table calculations.
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10-12-2019 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
Did you set the max number of players to >3 in the setup dialog?

The active player limit is set to 3 by default, even for the Monte Carlo mode. You can change it by clicking on the calculation mode option in the lower part of the hand setup dialog.
https://ibb.co/nBh1yrb
oh here it is, seen
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10-12-2019 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
That's not possible at this time, FGS currently only works for single table calculations.
I understand, thanks for the clarification
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10-12-2019 , 10:20 PM
I watched this spot analyzed with the normal setting and with the montecarlo calculation where I set up 4 players all in (in both I put structure, avg and maximum stack), why is there all this difference between the two engines? In montecarlo (with max 4 all in) KorstenViLa pusha 28.5%, in the other calculation where there are max 3 all in pusha 41.5%. red-ace333 in one island 40%, in the other even 71% .. which calculation should be considered more reliable?

https://ibb.co/WWG5vqP
https://ibb.co/QptBmWz
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10-13-2019 , 09:54 AM
Any updates on BB Ante?



Thank you
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10-13-2019 , 10:05 AM
We'll promote the current beta version to stable within the next 1-2 weeks, BB ante support is planned for the next round of beta features.
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10-13-2019 , 10:15 AM
Awesome, glad to hear. I look forward to it. Thank you
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10-13-2019 , 08:53 PM
plexiq?
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10-14-2019 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick07
I watched this spot analyzed with the normal setting and with the montecarlo calculation where I set up 4 players all in (in both I put structure, avg and maximum stack), why is there all this difference between the two engines? In montecarlo (with max 4 all in) KorstenViLa pusha 28.5%, in the other calculation where there are max 3 all in pusha 41.5%. red-ace333 in one island 40%, in the other even 71% .. which calculation should be considered more reliable?

https://ibb.co/WWG5vqP
https://ibb.co/QptBmWz
Sorry about missing this question earlier.

Assuming you run sufficiently large sample sizes, Monte Carlo mode is more accurate. For the ranges you selected the sample size should not be a big issue because these lines occur very frequently.

In your specific example the differences are mostly down to 3-way vs 4-way max. With the 3-max limit the remaining players (including in the blinds) will be forced to fold once 3 players actively enter the pot, that's regardless of those remaining player's hole cards. When you notice lines in the Math engine where the 3rd player still enters the pot with a relatively wide range then it's generally a good idea to calculate with MC mode instead and increase the active player limit.

Unlike the regular engine, Monte Carlo also considers folded card removal. This can make a considerable difference in some lines, especially in late position, but I don't think this is a big factor in the hand you posted.

More info on the differences:
https://www.holdemresources.net/blog...nte-carlo-mode
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10-14-2019 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
Sorry about missing this question earlier.

Assuming you run sufficiently large sample sizes, Monte Carlo mode is more accurate. For the ranges you selected the sample size should not be a big issue because these lines occur very frequently.

In your specific example the differences are mostly down to 3-way vs 4-way max. With the 3-max limit the remaining players (including in the blinds) will be forced to fold once 3 players actively enter the pot, that's regardless of those remaining player's hole cards. When you notice lines in the Math engine where the 3rd player still enters the pot with a relatively wide range then it's generally a good idea to calculate with MC mode instead and increase the active player limit.

Unlike the regular engine, Monte Carlo also considers folded card removal. This can make a considerable difference in some lines, especially in late position, but I don't think this is a big factor in the hand you posted.

More info on the differences:
https://www.holdemresources.net/blog...nte-carlo-mode
OK thank you very much!
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10-15-2019 , 09:21 AM
Hi, is it possible to change the name of the saved tournament structures?
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10-15-2019 , 09:35 AM
In the beta, yes. Go to Tools: Structure Manager and double click the structure you want to change.
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10-15-2019 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
In the beta, yes. Go to Tools: Structure Manager and double click the structure you want to change.
TY!
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10-18-2019 , 05:05 AM
ETA on being able to save/load trees? Have seen it being requested for years now and I think you mentioned it was under development.
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