Hi there, in your blog u gave a free tree to explore for non-premium users

http://blog.gtorangebuilder.com/2015...measuring.html

flop is Kh8d6h (ev for OOP is ~21 and ~33 for IP)

i have a CREV and wanted to see if the solution will be similar to one u posted in your blog and its seems its close enough but i wanted to experiment a bit with this tree

and it seems that no matter what strategy IP player uses for C-betting changes in EV are very small, i even used 100% c-bet and EV didnt change that much (normally he bets around 40% in equilibrium) its a very big shift and yet ev changes minimally (23,5 for OOP and 31.5 for IP)

is it because IP range is very stronge (its smth like CO vs BB)

would be cool if u could see what are ev's for 100% c-bettting range

still not sure how accurate crev is and would like to know

Sure no problem, I locked in 100% c-bet here (and ran a min exploit as described in the video in the post you linked to). The EV loss is reasonably close to what CREV gives but that is a pretty major loss really, about 25bb/100 from 33.74 to 31.32: http://gtorangebuilder.com/#share_ca...4a9834deb4aad0

This is a spot where you have more flexibility on your c-betting ranges than on many flops, but still if even vs a min-exploit someone was passing up 25bb/100 regularly in this type of situation that would add up pretty quickly.

thanks for clarification

one more question, u probably done and seen a lot of different flops and solutions do u ever find a flop where PFR being OOP c-bets more then 50%, seems that most of the time PFR checks a lot of his range... even vs wide range

There are spots, particularly if the c-bet size is smaller where the OOP c-betting frequency can be over 50%, but its uncommon to have a very high oop-cbet frequency in single raise pots at 100bb with realistic 6max ranges.

hello,

i purchased the library but for some reason even the list of available hands takes a lot of time to load. are you cashing the whole database or doing something weird? could this be improved ?