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Old 12-31-2017, 08:03 AM   #2001
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Re: Flopzilla

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Flopzilla deals with building intuition for how ranges hit boards, combos, equity calculations, etc.
This is kind of the point I was getting at. It would be great if we could use pre-existing solved ranges from piosolver or monkersolver directly with Flopzilla for the reasons you've stated. Instead it seems like we are being forced to use GTO+ which I don't believe can solve for multiway spots. I much prefer the simplicity of Flopzilla for indepth range/equity analysis so it's what I would prefer to use in combination with the heavier solvers.

Piosolver is also the most popular commercial solver out right now, and Monkersolver is starting to pick up a lot of traction thanks to its ability to solve multiway. I don't think this fact is going to change any time soon. The team at Equilab must have also realised this pretty early on as they made their software (which is frequently compared to Flopzilla) fully support the solver ranges.

The best option right now for anyone who wants to make practical use of solver ranges is to use Equilab-power as it's compatible with everything. I can instantly copy a range from Pio or Monkersolver, paste it into equilab, and do "Flopzilla" type work. It really feels like Flopzilla has been left behind in the dust in this regard.

All the software I've mentioned above also fully support Flopzilla ranges, but Flopzilla doesn't support any of their ranges which feels like a massive limitation. The ability to work with ranges from other software is heavily restricted and seems to be a one-way thing, which is very unfortunate as Flopzilla is primarily a "range" analysis tool and a very good one at that.


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So the variation of Flopzilla that you're asking for already exists, just in a different tool and specialized for that particular purpose
I am not asking for a new variation of Flopzilla at all, just the ability to recognize ranges (text strings) from other solvers so we can work with them in Flopzilla.

I honestly believe this is a massive limitation with the software right now and really hope you'll consider implementing the functionality.

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Old 12-31-2017, 03:47 PM   #2002
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Hi scylla,



This is kind of the point I was getting at. It would be great if we could use pre-existing solved ranges from piosolver or monkersolver directly with Flopzilla for the reasons you've stated. Instead it seems like we are being forced to use GTO+ which I don't believe can solve for multiway spots. I much prefer the simplicity of Flopzilla for indepth range/equity analysis so it's what I would prefer to use in combination with the heavier solvers.

Piosolver is also the most popular commercial solver out right now, and Monkersolver is starting to pick up a lot of traction thanks to its ability to solve multiway. I don't think this fact is going to change any time soon. The team at Equilab must have also realised this pretty early on as they made their software (which is frequently compared to Flopzilla) fully support the solver ranges.

The best option right now for anyone who wants to make practical use of solver ranges is to use Equilab-power as it's compatible with everything. I can instantly copy a range from Pio or Monkersolver, paste it into equilab, and do "Flopzilla" type work. It really feels like Flopzilla has been left behind in the dust in this regard.

All the software I've mentioned above also fully support Flopzilla ranges, but Flopzilla doesn't support any of their ranges which feels like a massive limitation. The ability to work with ranges from other software is heavily restricted and seems to be a one-way thing, which is very unfortunate as Flopzilla is primarily a "range" analysis tool and a very good one at that.




I am not asking for a new variation of Flopzilla at all, just the ability to recognize ranges (text strings) from other solvers so we can work with them in Flopzilla.

I honestly believe this is a massive limitation with the software right now and really hope you'll consider implementing the functionality.

Thanks
The main point that I'm trying to make here is that GTO+ already basically offers an internal version of Flopzilla, as well as many other analysis features. As I've stated before, we are again doing work on Flopzilla in 2018, and I'm happy to take your request into consideration. However, it seems to me that it's perhaps a better idea to use GTO+ for this. In this case we could offer Flopzilla users a token so that they unlock a "range analysis" mode in GTO+. This would only require some minor customization, and it would offer a more targeted service for users who are interested in looking at GTO ranges. It feels like a very specific feature that's better placed in a program that's specifically written for it.

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Old 01-21-2018, 12:33 AM   #2003
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Re: Flopzilla

Pertaining to the cards to the right of the hotness section, is it possible to have the number of cards/outs, stated in parentheses right next to the equity % on each line of cards shown?
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Pertaining to the cards to the right of the hotness section, is it possible to have the number of cards/outs, stated in parentheses right next to the equity % on each line of cards shown?
Ok, I will see if I can fit that in for the next update.

Thank you for your request,

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