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Old 02-08-2014, 11:26 AM   #1151
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Re: Flopzilla

Scylla what's the difference between equilab and your program?
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:09 PM   #1152
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Any plans to make this an iphone app
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:13 AM   #1153
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Scylla what's the difference between equilab and your program?
Flopzilla is intended for range analysis and has a graphical interface+functionality to optimize that process. Equilab is an equity calculator. If you want to know more about Flopzilla, then either use its trial version or watch the instructional videos: http://www.flopzilla.com/video.html
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:14 AM   #1154
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Any plans to make this an iphone app
Perhaps.
Perhaps not.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:16 AM   #1155
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Hey Scylla,

I have registered to Flopzilla a few days ago and I don't know if the subject has been discussed before but I have a suggestion for the program that would be immensely usefull imho.

It's the possibility to swithch between 2 (or more) filters presets which would allow to configure a strong fit (i.e TP or better, OESD and FD) and a weak fit (gutshots, weak pairs... or better) preset.

It could take the form either of a single switcher button (similar to the Absolute/Cumulative one) or numbers buttons (like the weight ones) this latter option allowing more than 2 presets.

To store the current preset of filters and weights you would only have to add a line in the setting menu "Store current preset" and it would be stored in the current state of the button(s).
This would allow to see very quickly and conveniently that for example althought a fish has hit a flop with a high percentage only a small percentage of his hands are actually strong hands

Of course one could check and uncheck the filters every time and change the weights but it's very tedious...

Do you see what I mean, what do you think?
The problem here is that the statistics in the "Statistics" section adapt to the board+situation. So on a different board/situation different statistics may be shown (since other ones may not be relevant). Because of that, stored presets for one board/situation may not apply when you load them for another board/situation.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:57 AM   #1156
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Re: Flopzilla

I don't see why this is a problem.

If a particular stat doesn't show on a particular board, it doesn't change anything.
If this stat appears on another board and you notice that there is no filter symbol on it, and you want that stat to be filtered when it shows, you just add a filter on it and store the preset again so this stat would be filtered the next time it will be displayed on a particular board (and you're on that same preset).

Currently, when you open Flopzilla the filters have their default settings (for example middle pair isn't checked by default but full houses are although this stat doesn't show on unpaired boards), what I am suggesting is just the possibility to make your own settings in the exact same way that the default filters setting is already stored when you open the software.

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Old 02-10-2014, 05:02 AM   #1157
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I don't see why this is a problem.

If a particular stat doesn't show on a particular board, it doesn't change anything.
If this stat appears on another board and you notice that there is no filter symbol on it, and you want that stat to be filtered when it shows, you just add a filter on it and store the preset again so this stat would be filtered the next time it will be displayed on a particular board (and you're on that same preset).

Currently, when you open Flopzilla the filters have their default settings (for example middle pair isn't checked by default but full houses are although this stat doesn't show on unpaired boards), what I am suggesting is just the possibility to make your own settings in the exact same way that the default filters setting is already stored when you open the software.
Ok, I'll look into it.
Thank you for the feedback!
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:09 AM   #1158
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Ok, I'll look into it.
Thank you for the feedback!
Yw, my pleasure!
I have watched a lot of videos about Flopzilla lately and people are always checking and unchecking filters and weights, if that could be done with just one click it would surely add a lot.

If you do it, I strongly recommand that you allow more than 2 presets, so for example one could configure:

- Strong fit (TP+, OESD, FD)
- Weak fit (middle pair+, gutshot+)
- Very weak fit (any pair+, any draw+, overcards)
- Missed completely (no pair, no draw -)
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:13 PM   #1159
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I'm afraid I won't be able to help you out there. Once the protection software thinks it has seen a manipulation of the trial (which can happen by changing your computer's date or editing your registry) it can't be undone. Sorry about that.
I get a similar message that says please register the software, which I did. Why would it tell me to register software that I can't use?
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:17 PM   #1160
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I get a similar message that says please register the software, which I did. Why would it tell me to register software that I can't use?
Are you referring to Flopzilla? If you're a registered user and you're having problems registering, please just contact support.

If on the other hand you are referring to HoldEq, that software is currently in beta. It's only made available for evaluation purposes. Should it not work for you, then please just wait for the next update.
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Old 02-13-2014, 04:26 PM   #1161
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Hi Timmer,

I've already replied to your mail and your PM.
Basically, Holdeq is in beta at the moment.
An update will be available in about 2 weeks.

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Scylla,

is the updated version up there yet?

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Old 02-14-2014, 06:32 AM   #1162
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Scylla,

is the updated version up there yet?

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I'm afraid not.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:48 PM   #1163
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I'm afraid not.
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:38 PM   #1164
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Re: Flopzilla

i am re watching some tutorials to familiarize with FZ. I would only use the dead cards section for my hand, selecting 2 cards that I hold.

How would we know other dead cards, what could be the use of selecting more than 2 cards from the dead cards section?
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:11 AM   #1165
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i am re watching some tutorials to familiarize with FZ. I would only use the dead cards section for my hand, selecting 2 cards that I hold.

How would we know other dead cards, what could be the use of selecting more than 2 cards from the dead cards section?
It's simply offered as an option.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:16 PM   #1166
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Re: Flopzilla

Just updated HoldEQ - thanks for adding in the coloured results and text output scylla, way better!

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quite dissapointed after tryed holdeq. I dont see any advantage of this program. Maybe only "Handling weight" but it is not used oftern, and I can manipulate equilab (or other stove) to do similar task..... so hence my question.
Here's my 2 cents:
-It's about 50x easier and quicker to use for a start.
-The interface is extremely clean and simple.
-It already feels more powerful and works better than stove/equilab and it's still in early beta.
-scylla developed it - and he's already added in features requested in this thread not so long ago.

As far as using some 'lightweight software' to calculate equities I think this is as good as you can get.
I haven't touched pokerstove since - something I thought I'd never do.

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Old 02-21-2014, 09:20 AM   #1167
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Re: Flopzilla

Hello, Scylla!

About Holdeq, I would like to give another suggestion... its about the lay out.

I do thing that the big problem on softwares like Equilab is visual pollution.
It's full of buttons and colors and options..... and that is what made pokerstove the most loved one until now. its simple, clean and quick.

I do hope Flopzilla dont go on same way that Equilab did.

And I would suggest some modifications on layout so it could be more compact:

The yellow marks are places where you could gain space on the software, and make it more compact, maybe you could make a 6max version, acctually, I never made any simullation with more than 4 or 5 players I guess.... and I really think those buttons beside range button is useless.... they are only shortcuts, but give a big pollution on visual.




Just a feedback.
I hope that Holdeq can become the best equity calculator on the market!
We need a clean, quick an effective one.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:26 AM   #1168
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Hello, Scylla!

About Holdeq, I would like to give another suggestion... its about the lay out.

I do thing that the big problem on softwares like Equilab is visual pollution.
It's full of buttons and colors and options..... and that is what made pokerstove the most loved one until now. its simple, clean and quick.

I do hope Flopzilla dont go on same way that Equilab did.

And I would suggest some modifications on layout so it could be more compact:

The yellow marks are places where you could gain space on the software, and make it more compact, maybe you could make a 6max version, acctually, I never made any simullation with more than 4 or 5 players I guess.... and I really think those buttons beside range button is useless.... they are only shortcuts, but give a big pollution on visual.




Just a feedback.
I hope that Holdeq can become the best equity calculator on the market!
We need a clean, quick an effective one.
Yes, I've already removed the buttons for "Delete" and "All hands". I've kept the buttons for "Select specific hand" since that particular button feels like it should be there.

However, I dó need 10 input field for players, for the simple reason that I need the vertical space to create a gap between "Dead" and "Text output". That space is needed for the progress bar, a "Register" button and program messages. I've tried several configurations, but the one with 10 players appears is so far the best I've been able to find.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:41 PM   #1169
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Re: Flopzilla

Sorry if this type of question already asked. Let's say I have A7o and I know my hand has 64% EQ on a 2d3d5c flop against a (KJo-K2o,QJo-Q5o,JTo-J5o,T9o-T5o,98o-96o,87o-85o,76o-74o,65o-64o,54o,KTs-K2s,QJs-Q2s,JTs-J4s,T9s-T4s,98s-95s,87s-85s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s) flatting range.
What if i would like to know my EQ against his ch/raising range? I know he will ch/r with any Tp, Fd, and gutshot. I can do it with other softwares but with flopzilla would be much easier.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:45 AM   #1170
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Sorry if this type of question already asked. Let's say I have A7o and I know my hand has 64% EQ on a 2d3d5c flop against a (KJo-K2o,QJo-Q5o,JTo-J5o,T9o-T5o,98o-96o,87o-85o,76o-74o,65o-64o,54o,KTs-K2s,QJs-Q2s,JTs-J4s,T9s-T4s,98s-95s,87s-85s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s) flatting range.
What if i would like to know my EQ against his ch/raising range? I know he will ch/r with any Tp, Fd, and gutshot. I can do it with other softwares but with flopzilla would be much easier.
For that just put a checkmark in front of Tp,fd and gutshot.
Then turn ON the filters (bottom button in the "Statistics" section).



Your equity versus this checkraise range is 46.335%.


Edit:
I just realized that you probably meant that you hold the Ad.
Sorry about that oversight.
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:46 PM   #1171
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scylla, hello! my holdeq expired, how can i activate it? got license flopzilla
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:15 PM   #1172
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scylla, hello! my holdeq expired, how can i activate it? got license flopzilla
Hi Kalashmatick,

I had intended to release the update today, but there were some complications.
I expect to release the update by tomorrow.

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Old 02-28-2014, 07:17 PM   #1173
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One annoying thing is that the button "clear all fields" doesn't clear filters.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:21 PM   #1174
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One annoying thing is that the button "clear all fields" doesn't clear filters.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean.
Are you talking about Flopzilla or HoldEq?
In both I believe "Clear all fields" clears everything.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:30 PM   #1175
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Flopzilla. Sorry I mean weights. E.g. I put a weight 50% on top pair then clear all fields and select a new range, new dead cards, new flop, there is still 50% weight on top pair.
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