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Old 05-16-2011, 03:49 PM   #401
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

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Old 05-16-2011, 03:59 PM   #402
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:55 PM   #403
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

finally ready to buy the software, link to buy it not working? Black friday for flopzilla too?
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:17 AM   #404
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Everything is working fine for me over here.
Go here for download:
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator...Flopzilla.html
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:39 AM   #405
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

Aaaaaaand ..... now it's not ok.

It appears the website is down.
I've called the hosting service and apparently it's going to take about 24 hours to resolve.
For now you can go to the alternate website www.crevtest.nl.
It's a slightly older version of the website, but it should do for now.

Also, support will unfortunately not be available at the normal adres.
For support, please mail crev_flopzilla@hotmail.com.

Sorry about the inconvenience.
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:37 AM   #406
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There was an in-depth tutorial video about Flopzilla at CR this week. Just a heads-up to all its users!
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:09 PM   #407
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

I think there is one bug when we put the mouse over some range;

Lets say it apears:

Top Pair: 20%
PPBellowTP: 10%
MediumPair: 30%
FD: 30%
GS: 5%
Nothing: 5%

If i put the mouse over some off the %, lets say: TP 20%; All other percents go equals 0 or equals 20%;
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:45 PM   #408
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I think there is one bug when we put the mouse over some range;

Lets say it apears:

Top Pair: 20%
PPBellowTP: 10%
MediumPair: 30%
FD: 30%
GS: 5%
Nothing: 5%

If i put the mouse over some off the %, lets say: TP 20%; All other percents go equals 0 or equals 20%;
That's not a bug.
It shows you the overlap between made hands and draws.
When you move your mouse over a stat only those hands are filtered that apply to that stat.
So for example, let's say you hold top pair 20% of the time.
When you move your mouse over it, it will for example say FD:5%.
Meaning that when you hold top pair 1/4 of the time you hold tp+flushdraw.
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:49 AM   #409
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

I just checked the new version and it is awesome. Just couple of things:
1. When using filters on hands(under any statistic) - It changes accordingly the equity % and the "hands pass filters". However, it does not change the % of the statistics itself. If I filter hands, I want to see how the statistics distribution looks like on the range that passes the filter, I don't care how it looks before the filter(otherwise I would not filter it).
2. If you can add an option to have multiple filter %(for hands)- it can be nice. You have nice place for it under the % bar.
3. If you can add the ability to use alt to select ranges, like in pokerstove or any other range based program, it will be helpful.
4. I haven't spend a lot of time on the new version but in the beta there were times where it took some time to calculate things and I wasn't sure if the program is stuck or not. If it is the same on the new version, it will be nice to have some "calculating" animation(just some simple thing that is swinging/flicking will be nice). Or maybe it is just my computer
5. I think the program is really getting close to maximizing its potential. You can start thinking about taking it one step further - some add-on to flopzilla that will help decide on counter strategies vs villain range. It will be good and it can be a nice way for you to earn extra money(I think it will be justified to charge for this kind of add-on).
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:15 AM   #410
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I just checked the new version and it is awesome. Just couple of things:
1. When using filters on hands(under any statistic) - It changes accordingly the equity % and the "hands pass filters". However, it does not change the % of the statistics itself. If I filter hands, I want to see how the statistics distribution looks like on the range that passes the filter, I don't care how it looks before the filter(otherwise I would not filter it).
The percentages that are shown dó apply only to the hands that pass through the filters.
However, you need to activate the filters by clicking the "filter" button at the bottom.
If you're referring to something else, please let me know.

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2. If you can add an option to have multiple filter %(for hands)- it can be nice. You have nice place for it under the % bar.
3. If you can add the ability to use alt to select ranges, like in pokerstove or any other range based program, it will be helpful.
Could you be a bit more specific?

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4. I haven't spend a lot of time on the new version but in the beta there were times where it took some time to calculate things and I wasn't sure if the program is stuck or not. If it is the same on the new version, it will be nice to have some "calculating" animation(just some simple thing that is swinging/flicking will be nice). Or maybe it is just my computer
I'm still doing some work on Flopzilla and haven't gotten to optimize certain things yet. However, fwiw, it runs pretty smooth on the systems that are available to me. Anyhow, you might want to try this "fix" and see if it runs better on your system:
http://www.crevfiles.com/flopzilla/Flopzilla2.rar

Edit: Oh wait. I've had a report of Kaspersky interfering with Flopzilla and slowing it down. You may want to try setting an exception in your virus scanner.

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5. I think the program is really getting close to maximizing its potential. You can start thinking about taking it one step further - some add-on to flopzilla that will help decide on counter strategies vs villain range. It will be good and it can be a nice way for you to earn extra money(I think it will be justified to charge for this kind of add-on).
That add-on is already out and it's called CardRunnersEV

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Old 05-20-2011, 10:55 AM   #411
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1. When I press the "filter" button it gives me only the range that passed the filter(like it should). What I refer to is in context of his whole range, minus the hands the did not pass the filter. When "filter" button is off, try to filter out any specific hands - watch how it changes the "hands pass through the filter" and equity numbers. It does not however changes the statistics distribution. Do the same thing when "filter" button is on, and see how it changes also the statistics distribution. If I filter out hands and want to see it in the context of his whole range(i.e "filter" button is off"), I still want to see the distribution of the statistics only on hands I did not filter out. I hope it makes sense.

2. If I want to filter specific hands in any statistic group I need to use mark them as filtered hand(and mark the other with "no filter"), and then I can set the % to filter out. It will be nice to have an option to filter different hands based on different % - like I can weight hands on different %.

3. Go to PokerStove, press "alt" and then try to select range. It select the full row/diagonal(in PP) up to were you select. It is really quick and easy this way.

5. CardRunnersEV is not the same. It is much more complicated and not as visual as Flopzilla. You don't have to go as deep and CardRunnersEV- it is possible to make the core things to build counter strategies and keep it user friendly/easy to visualize. It will be a snap buy by me and i'm sure that by many other Flopzilla users.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:33 AM   #412
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1. When I press the "filter" button it gives me only the range that passed the filter(like it should). What I refer to is in context of his whole range, minus the hands the did not pass the filter. When "filter" button is off, try to filter out any specific hands - watch how it changes the "hands pass through the filter" and equity numbers. It does not however changes the statistics distribution. Do the same thing when "filter" button is on, and see how it changes also the statistics distribution. If I filter out hands and want to see it in the context of his whole range(i.e "filter" button is off"), I still want to see the distribution of the statistics only on hands I did not filter out. I hope it makes sense.
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following you.

When the filter button is off, the filter symbols in front of the statistics do almost nothing (they're turned off after all); simply everything passes through to the output field. The percentage on the filter button tells you which part of the range will pass through the filters if you turn them on.
When the filters are on, only hands with filter symbols are filtered.
After that, the equity calculations are applied to whatever is in the output field.

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2. If I want to filter specific hands in any statistic group I need to use mark them as filtered hand(and mark the other with "no filter"), and then I can set the % to filter out. It will be nice to have an option to filter different hands based on different % - like I can weight hands on different %.
I decided not to do that as it turns into way too much micromanagement with little effect on the output.

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3. Go to PokerStove, press "alt" and then try to select range. It select the full row/diagonal(in PP) up to were you select. It is really quick and easy this way.
Ah, didn't know I could do that in PokerStove. Anyhow, in Flopzilla you can select something, keep your mouse pressed and move over everything you want to select/deselect. It works just as well imho, but I'll see if I can add the Alt thing.

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5. CardRunnersEV is not the same. It is much more complicated and not as visual as Flopzilla. You don't have to go as deep and CardRunnersEV- it is possible to make the core things to build counter strategies and keep it user friendly/easy to visualize. It will be a snap buy by me and i'm sure that by many other Flopzilla users.
Could you give an/some example(s)?

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Old 05-20-2011, 02:43 PM   #413
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1. Ah, never mind, I manage to do what I wanted in other way. If it will bug me again I will try explain in more details what it is I want to change/add.

5. I haven't think about it in depth but I will do so and PM you my suggestions.

6. A really annoying thing I forgot to mention is that the filters I set remain even if I clear the range/flop/dead cards. I have to close and open the program again if I want it all cleared to work on another scenario.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:47 PM   #414
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6. A really annoying thing I forgot to mention is that the filters I set remain even if I clear the range/flop/dead cards. I have to close and open the program again if I want it all cleared to work on another scenario.
I think I'll add a "clear all custom settings" option in the "commands" section.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:53 AM   #415
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

Is there a way to see how often 78s flops certain types of hands in general?

I see the random button but that's just the equity for that particular flop.

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Old 05-21-2011, 12:00 PM   #416
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Is there a way to see how often 78s flops certain types of hands in general?

I see the random button but that's just the equity for that particular flop.

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Leave the board empty and press the Flopzilla pic.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:11 AM   #417
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

I just downloaded FLopzilla. And i have some questions

Q 1
When I started Flopzilla it said i only have a license for 7 days, Does that mean i have to pay for it afterwards?

Q 2
When i wanted to run PF calculations , it said the following:
Preflop calculations only function if you register. So does that mean you have to pay for it?
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:58 AM   #418
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I just downloaded FLopzilla. And i have some questions

Q 1
When I started Flopzilla it said i only have a license for 7 days, Does that mean i have to pay for it afterwards?

Q 2
When i wanted to run PF calculations , it said the following:
Preflop calculations only function if you register. So does that mean you have to pay for it?
Hi Waayoo,

Registering Flopzilla costs $25, as is indicated on the website:
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/Flopzilla.html

And yes, certain features are disabled in the trial version.

Cheers,

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Old 06-07-2011, 06:35 AM   #419
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Hi Waayoo,

Registering Flopzilla costs $25, as is indicated on the website:
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/Flopzilla.html

And yes, certain features are disabled in the trial version.

Cheers,

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Thanks for your quick response! Well i'm consdering buying this progam, but when i looked on the site I saw that is costs a $100 (the $25 is a smaller version then i guues?)
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:28 AM   #420
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Thanks for your quick response! Well i'm consdering buying this progam, but when i looked on the site I saw that is costs a $100 (the $25 is a smaller version then i guues?)
There's two different pieces of software available on the website.

Flopzilla costs $25 and tells you how a given range hits a given board. It allows for filters, weights, etc.
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/Flopzilla.html

The CardRunners EV calculator is the main piece of software on the website. It let's a user enter a decision tree and then performs just about any EV and equity calculation on it that's possible. More detail on any item in the tree will be shown when you move your mouse over it. It's a complex piece of software that should save you a lot of time if you want to delve deeper into poker from a math perspective. It's registration fee is $99.
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/

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Old 06-08-2011, 02:08 AM   #421
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Is it possible to pay over pokerstars or neteller ?
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:37 AM   #422
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Is it possible to pay over pokerstars or neteller ?
Unfortunately Pokerstars no longer allows p2p transfers for non-gaming purposes.

I can't offer neteller either, since it's an account I use for personal reasons (gambliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!).

However, you might want to try neteller's virtual credit card, which I find to be rather awesome.
It creates a temporary credit card which can be used for one payment only.
So no worries about your details being stolen.
It's one of the options on the neteller website.
Just log in, click the virtual credit card button and you've got yourself a credit card.



PS: I have no personal attachment to neteller in any way. I just feel it's a great option to get hold of the advantages of a credit card without the usual security disadvantages.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:17 PM   #423
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There's two different pieces of software available on the website.

Flopzilla costs $25 and tells you how a given range hits a given board. It allows for filters, weights, etc.
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/Flopzilla.html

The CardRunners EV calculator is the main piece of software on the website. It let's a user enter a decision tree and then performs just about any EV and equity calculation on it that's possible. More detail on any item in the tree will be shown when you move your mouse over it. It's a complex piece of software that should save you a lot of time if you want to delve deeper into poker from a math perspective. It's registration fee is $99.
http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/
Ok i see, thanks for explanation.
Is it also possible to buy FLopzilla now for $25, en perhaps later pay $75 extra for the full progam?

Also, you accept Player Transfers on FTP right?
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Ok i see, thanks for explanation.
Is it also possible to buy FLopzilla now for $25, en perhaps later pay $75 extra for the full progam?
Flopzilla is a totally different program, so it's not a "light" version of CardRunnersEV. So I'm afraid I can't make that offer.

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Yes, FTP is still accepted.
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:07 AM   #425
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Re: Flopzilla!!! Flop texture analysis

This may be a silly question but ive just tried to update to the version that includes turns and rivers etc but nothing seems to have happened. Am i doing something wrong? I tried a couple of weeks back and nothing seemed to happen but i thought it was when you were having problems with the website and that may be the problem. Now im all confused and dont know what i have done.
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