In my experience this is always caused by using a program called softICE. Just having it installed can cause problems with obfuscators.

Scylla,

I think would be worth adding the "backdoor outside straight draw" to the draws conditions.

Cheers

Thanks for the help.
Does this ring any bells Bonk?

Did this ever get off the ground?

How long did it take for you guys after you've sent the money to get the bat file?

This takes at most 24 hours (unless for some reason I have no access to the internet for an extended period of time; I think this has happened once so far).

If you requested a key over 24 hours ago then try sending an e-mail from a different adress. Either your e-mail may be blocked on my end or you may be blocking the response.

Cheers,

Scylla

Thanks, got it all working now. Looking forward to this excellent software.

Ok, great!

I've bought StoxEV yesterday and watched your 3 video tutorials.

In this situation I'm wondering if I got it straight.

On this situation the whole hand is +0.12 EV for the Cutoff. But on the flop it's -0.73 EV if Cutoff shoves for 10.10. So shoving over BBs flopraise is -EV if we assume that I've set it correct. Am I reading it correctly?

That is correct, however please be aware that the +$0.12 for the preflop situation is not relevant here from a practical point of view, since it asumes the flop is already known.

The reason that for instance "bet 0.60" is positive is because in 85.4% of the cases the BB folds, letting the cutoff win the $0.78 pot. This outweighs the 14.6% of the times you get into a -$0.73 situation.
Still, of course, the all in shove is incorrect and a fold would be preferable.

I see and I think I've got it straight now.

Now that we know that a shove is unprofitable I was trying to find out how good a call when he reraises would have been. BB is a nitty player playing like 17/11 so I assume he has a tight opening and calling range preflop. I excluded AA-JJ because I thought he would 3-bet those (maybe he calls JJ but I don't think it's too important in this situation, right?). I think his range for preflop was like AJ+, KJs+ and 22+. Have I made dumb assumptions through the simulation or does it seem okey?

Yes I think that should do fine.

Scylla, I don't get this. On this situation if the SB bets on the river, it's a positiv EV of 2.61 and it's also +EV 4.05 for CO. How come both players can have positive expected value? I'm too dumb to figure it out.

At the point of the sb's decision there's $7.50 in the pot.
A part of this pot will go to the SB, the rest will go to the BB.
In this case, $2.61 goes to SB, $4.05 goes to BB and the rest goes to rake.

If you set rake to 0% (press Ctrl+F1 to go to that menu) you'll see that the SB's EV and the BB's EV will add up to the pot.

If you want the actual math, please tell me the BB's equity when he calls the bet. To get the equity, move your mouse over where it says "call" and his equity for the call will be the second line in the popup.

Wow, this has made me even more confused. I understand what you are saying and all but on the river it's impossible to have -EV because let's say the pot is 7 and you only got 10% equity, you're still have an positive EV of 0.7.

In the situation I was trying to find out if the SB's riverbet was +EV. But I don't understand how I'll figure out in this calculation if it's +EV or not.

EDIT: CO's equity (think you mixed it up with BB) is 54.9% and tie 4.92%.

If it says it's +EV, then it's +EV.
Money that you've already put in the pot is no longer yours, so the 7 that is now in the pot offers an overlay. Even though you may not win often, the additional 7 in the pot that you'll get when you win will help compensate for all the times that you lose.

Okey. My intention with this calculation was to figure out if a bet was +EV or not but the mistake I was doing is to figure out if a bet is +EV or not because it will likely be +EV because of the stack in the middle. What I should only do is to compare if it's higher +EV then checking because I knowing if a bet is +EV or not isn't interesting since it will most likely be +EV because of the current pot and we should look for the highest +EV. Is this right?

And second question: on the river the pot is 7.50 before the bet but on the EV when we sum it up it's almost just 7.50 (little less with rake). Why isn't it concluding the bet SB's is doing plus CO call?

In the end, you indeed need to determine whether a check or a bet is higher EV. With only a potbet left, it's not unthinkable that both options will be +EV.
In fact, in LHE the pot by the river is often so large compared to the betsizes that almost any action is guaranteed to be +EV. The question that remains is which is best.

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I don't really have an explanation for that, only that if you do the math, it will turn out that in HU situations the EVs of an action plus that of the next decision will add up to the pot. It's one of those funny math things. The explanation that I thinks applies is that in such a situation player 1 and player 2 are dividing the pot amongst themselves.

I don't understand ****, haha. Does it take SB's bet and CO call on the river when calculating the EV of 2.61 for SB and 4.05. Too bad I didn't take school seriously.

Yes it does. If you tell me the cutoff's equity when he calls the bet I'll show you the math. To get the equity, hover over the call action. The equity is in the second line. I'll leave out rake though, so the numbers will be slightly different.

CO's equity is 54.9% and tie 4.92% when I hover over call on CO on the river.

I'll leave out the ties. In cash games they're almost irrelevant. They do however matter greatly in tournament calculations. Anyhow, that's not relevant here.


Ok, the SB bets 6.30. Effective stacks are $4.74.


The SB's EV
In 1.61% of the cases he'll win the $7.5 pot.
EV=1.61%*7.5=0.12075

In 98.4% of the cases he'll win 4.74+7.5 in (100%-54.9%=)45.1%.
EV=98.4%*(4.74+7.5)*45.1%=5.4319

In 98.4% of the cases he'll lose 4.74 in 54.9%.
EV=98.4%*-4.74*54.9%=-2.5606

EV for the sb: 0.12075+5.4319-2.5606=$2.99.


The BB's EV
The cutoff folds in 1.61% of the cases. He will "win" $0, since he folded.
EV=0.

The cutoff calls in 98.4% of the cases. He will win 54.9% of pots and will get 7.5+4.74.
EV=98.4%*(7.5+4.74)*54.9%=6.6122

The cutoff calls in 98.4% of the cases. He will lose 45.1% of pots and will lose 4.74.
EV=98.4%*-4.74*45.1%=-2.1035

EV for the cutoff: 6.6122-2.1035=4.51.


If we now add up these EVs we'll get $2.99+$4.51=$7.5.
There's about a zillion opportunities to make a mistake in the above, but since the numbers add up, it appears I've made no mistakes. Or got very lucky

Okey I see. Finally all makes sense. Thank you very much and I'm sorry for bugging you last days but I really want to learn with StoxEV.