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Scylla, I just went on to say that I'm looking forward to the new gto + update.

I also want to take the opportunity to say that the competition (GTO W **** d, L *** d GTO, GTOx etc) is developing very dynamic and intuitive interfaces, and I hope that GTO + continues on that path.

It goes without saying and I dare to say that many of the users would gladly pay for a good update of GTO +, understanding that it is not a subscription system and not all the updates you do will not be able to monetize it.

As a reference, they took as an example the filter system of GTO W **** d ...
I find it very good to be able to filter or select more than one morphology of the range, to be able to choose the 1-card backdoor suiteds to see the% bet,
To be able to make the table of hands dynamic by choosing to order them by higher or lower percentage of bet or check / higher or lower EV, etc. Etc...

They are things that have been requested through the time where the competition advanced, it would be nice to have them!

Well, it largely stayed the same. Function wise.

I expected a bigger update I must say.

Last edited by crowned; 05-26-2021 at 09:06 AM.

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05-27-2021 , 06:10 AM

#11877

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

Hello, couple of new suggestions I have:

1. Can you redo the node locking like PIO? I seem to be using PIO/Monker and GTO+ and it would be nice if I can copy PIO/Monker bet/check range to GTO+. I cannot think of a way to do this than just manually copying by putting in the percentages of each combo manually

2. Would be nice to have a percentage EV of the node when I hover "EV". Now it only shows villain's ev

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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05-28-2021 , 10:23 PM

#11878

Live14U

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 7

Is there a way in GTO+ to see your "equity when called" like in PIOs range explorer?

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05-29-2021 , 02:36 AM

#11879

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live14U

Is there a way in GTO+ to see your "equity when called" like in PIOs range explorer?

For that, you could select villain's "Call" action.
Then, export to FlopzillaPro.
It will give you an entire breakdown of the equities versus the call range.

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05-29-2021 , 05:41 AM

#11880

Smarty_Mcduff

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 49

Hey Scylla, was wondering if it would be possible to add the option to drill specific nodes vs an entire DB rather than individual trees?

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05-30-2021 , 02:48 AM

#11881

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty_Mcduff

Hey Scylla, was wondering if it would be possible to add the option to drill specific nodes vs an entire DB rather than individual trees?

Yes, we'll take care of that. I've taken a look at it for v134, but as it turned out, there's spots where it can actually be rather complex. In particular, if a spot is only reached by both players in, let's say, 1% of the time, then it's not advised to:

1) Randomly load a spot
2) Check if it's valid
3) If not, go to 1)

given that this might cause very long loading times between hands. Because of this, we'll need to find a way to figure out if a spot applies prior to loading it. So, in short, it turns out that it will take some programming.

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05-30-2021 , 11:57 PM

#11882

lagux

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 182

I just use "play against the solution". After making a hand where I made a mistake or a hand that I am interested in, I have to click on the column to the right and then scroll to the street I am interested in. Maybe you can add options to go straight to Turna and Rivera? It would be a super simplification saving a few seconds on each hand.

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05-31-2021 , 03:08 AM

#11883

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagux

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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06-01-2021 , 10:33 AM

#11884

personalpokercoach

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 245

Hey Scylla

I haven't tried it yet but is flopzilla pro compatible with gto 6+?

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06-01-2021 , 11:05 AM

#11885

ilsimi

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 27

Dear Scylla,

I was wondering if there is an easy way to export (in excel for example) all the turn aggregation reports of the multi-flop database that I solved.
I solved a database of 184 flops, and if I want to export my turn aggregation reports for all the flops, I have to do it manually for every single flop!
Or is it a simpler way? I just need to extract them all at once and paste this big text file into excel.

Thanks in advance you for your help.

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06-02-2021 , 10:15 AM

#11886

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

Hey Scylla

I haven't tried it yet but is flopzilla pro compatible with gto 6+?

Not at the moment no.

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06-02-2021 , 10:17 AM

#11887

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by ilsimi

This is currently not available, but it will probably be added in a future update.

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06-02-2021 , 10:28 AM

#11888

ilsimi

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by scylla

This is currently not available, but it will probably be added in a future update.

Thanks for your answer. I believe it's an extremely important feature to have (at least for me) since it basically makes the 90% of my GTOPlus use.

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06-02-2021 , 11:30 PM

#11889

personalpokercoach

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 245

Quote:

Originally Posted by scylla

Not at the moment no.

I know there is not much demand for this but is there any chance you will be updating it to be available for 6+ too?

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06-03-2021 , 02:57 AM

#11890

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

I know there is not much demand for this but is there any chance you will be updating it to be available for 6+ too?

We can consider it, although, as you point out, the demand for 6+ is very low.

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06-03-2021 , 05:18 AM

#11891

MatNewman

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12

Hi - I'm sure this had been answered elsewhere but searching for "range bet" brings up an awful lot of posts!

Anyway - my question is how do I get GTO+ to force the IP player to range bet the flop?

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06-03-2021 , 05:23 AM

#11892

MatNewman

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12

Ah - think I've found it. You build the tree as normal and then edit it to remove the check flop branch for IP.

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06-03-2021 , 06:00 AM

#11893

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by MatNewman

Ah - think I've found it. You build the tree as normal and then edit it to remove the check flop branch for IP.

Yes, that is correct.

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06-03-2021 , 07:21 AM

#11894

MatNewman

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12

As a future feature request it'd be nice if I could just add "r33" to mean "range bet 33%"

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06-03-2021 , 08:24 PM

#11895

MDN

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 466

Hi, the "Don't donk" setting seems to be broken.
I've got both switches turned on but it still builds a tree with a donk in it.
Tried only switching either the general one or the flop one but still no luck.

I've checked the stable version and it works fine there.

https://imgur.com/a/bZBS5k5

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06-03-2021 , 11:34 PM

#11896

lagux

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 182

I was puzzled by the folding "play aganist the solution". Folded fours AAAA to cb after a lead on T. Shows 0% of hands for opponent's play after my lead on T.
1. why is it 0% there?
2. how are decisions made by the bot when there is 0% for a play.
3. why did he fold the nut?
4. how to solve such a problem?

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06-04-2021 , 02:42 AM

#11897

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatNewman

As a future feature request it'd be nice if I could just add "r33" to mean "range bet 33%"

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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06-04-2021 , 02:43 AM

#11898

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by lagux

It's difficult to answer this question without a savefile.
Can you send a savefile to support?

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06-04-2021 , 02:45 AM

#11899

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by MDN

In v134, the "Don't donk" option only applies to the turn/river.
This is because the tree builder has no way of knowing whether the flop bet is a donk.
To leave out the flop bet, enter 0 for "First bet" on the flop.