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09-24-2020 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by twisterk
Hi Scylla.

I have two requests.

1- Would love to be able to navigate turn/rivers on the aggregated database reports
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.


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Originally Posted by twisterk
2 - Have two different options for "Go all-in" and "Add all-in", because a lot of times I want to both add an all-in and force and all-in

Any plans to include any of these?
These two options are mutually exclusive. "Go all-in" means that all other actions are removed, and the player only goes all-in. So you can only do one of the two at the same time.
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09-24-2020 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AuMind
When playing against the solution, how exactly does the AI react when I take a line that is supposed to be used 0% of the time?
The fact that it's not supposed to be taken does not affect the quality of the solution.
The solution is know for all hands, at all points in the tree.

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Originally Posted by AuMind
I had a friend (who barely knows anything about poker) do something like donk bet on a A87 flop (30BB) and the AI on the button would push hands like Q9o all in. Seems to react very randomly.
I would need to see the solution, but it sounds like Q9o was used as a bluff.

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Originally Posted by AuMind
Edit: Not sure if this is really the case, but the databases I created after the last GTO+ update seems to be playing much better while the ones I created before the update are super random.
There have been no changes there, so it's probably a coincidence.
The variance in how often certain things occur can be quite huge.
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09-24-2020 , 04:28 AM
Hi is it possible to search through a database if you have like 1700+ flops solved and just want to find the same flop or one similar instead of having to scroll through and look for it. Thanks.
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09-24-2020 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
Awesome, thank you


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Originally Posted by scylla
These two options are mutually exclusive. "Go all-in" means that all other actions are removed, and the player only goes all-in. So you can only do one of the two at the same time.
I understand. But the way I see it, even tho those options are mutually exclusive on a specific node, they are not mutually exclusive when you are building the entire tree.

For example, let's say I have a BTN vs BB SRP and I want to tell the tree builder "Give players the option to shove when the SPR is less than 2.5, but just go all-in when the SPR is less than 1".

Then yeah, on each node the solver would use only one, but when setting parameters for the whole tree it would be useful to use both.

Hope this makes sense
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09-24-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by twisterk
Awesome, thank you

I understand. But the way I see it, even tho those options are mutually exclusive on a specific node, they are not mutually exclusive when you are building the entire tree.

For example, let's say I have a BTN vs BB SRP and I want to tell the tree builder "Give players the option to shove when the SPR is less than 2.5, but just go all-in when the SPR is less than 1".

Then yeah, on each node the solver would use only one, but when setting parameters for the whole tree it would be useful to use both.

Hope this makes sense
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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09-24-2020 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Waking Up
Hi is it possible to search through a database if you have like 1700+ flops solved and just want to find the same flop or one similar instead of having to scroll through and look for it. Thanks.
You can use the flop filters to look for a particular flop, or flop type. Alternatively, you can also click on the small triangle (below "Database" in the pic below) to sort the flops.

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09-25-2020 , 08:02 AM
Hello!

When practicing against a solution, is there any way to start from different nodes?
For example; can I start the hand in the turn Cbet node. If I play BTN vs BB SRP and want to start the hand after Flop has gone Cbet, call.

Similarly, can I play a drill like above? Where I only practice Turn Cbet and not playing out the entire hand?


Thanks in advance and great software

Last edited by UnitOperations; 09-25-2020 at 08:17 AM.
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09-25-2020 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by UnitOperations
Hello!
When practicing against a solution, is there any way to start from different nodes?
For example; can I start the hand in the turn Cbet node. If I play BTN vs BB SRP and want to start the hand after Flop has gone Cbet, call.
You can use the "Drill" option for this.
Simply navigate the tree (on top of the interface) to the decision that you want to drill.
Select "Drill the current decision".
And start playing against the solution.



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Originally Posted by UnitOperations
Similarly, can I play a drill like above? Where I only practice Turn Cbet and not playing out the entire hand?
Press F1 to replay the hand, with both players drawing a new hand.
Press F2 to replay the hand, with both players holding the same hand.
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09-25-2020 , 02:48 PM
Hi scylla, if I use 2 raise sizes on the flop in GTO+, then program chooses weird color and it's hard to see (raise and fold colors look very similar).
Example.
Is it possible to change colors?

Last edited by idn07; 09-25-2020 at 02:54 PM.
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09-25-2020 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by idn07
Hi scylla, if I use 2 raise sizes on the flop in GTO+, then program chooses weird color and it's hard to see (raise and fold colors look very similar).
Example.
Is it possible to change colors?
To edit the action colors, go to the editor and click on "Edit action colors".
You may need to click on "IMPORT TREE" for this option to be available.

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09-26-2020 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
You can use the "Drill" option for this.
Simply navigate the tree (on top of the interface) to the decision that you want to drill.
Select "Drill the current decision".
And start playing against the solution.





Press F1 to replay the hand, with both players drawing a new hand.
Press F2 to replay the hand, with both players holding the same hand.
When drilling a decision point and the hand proceeds to the next street it doesn't make much sense to hit replay the hand because it won't show you the EV of your move. It would be cool if we could drill specific point (like Flop CB) and after your decision you immeadiately get EV results of your decision and the next hand comes

Last edited by ristikas; 09-26-2020 at 05:37 AM.
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09-26-2020 , 11:04 AM
When we want to solve a database in stages, do we just pause the solver, save, then can continue solving the subset at a later date? Will it be saved as one whole database if solved in parts? Also, is there a way to merge databases?

Thanks.
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09-26-2020 , 11:16 AM
Good evening

Is it possible to delete the history of played hands? Not just hiding them.

Thanks.
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09-26-2020 , 02:09 PM
It it possible to specify more than 5 sizes on a street?
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09-26-2020 , 04:55 PM
Hi scylla,

Is it possible to have specific bet size inputs for in position player also(like there is 40p,65c etc for OOP player). For example, If we want to use different bet size IP when making a turn continuation bet vs making a turn delayed c bet?
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09-26-2020 , 05:55 PM
Hi Scylla,

I'm doing analysis on flop subsets in excel, and the averages I'm getting for each option (check, shove, 33%, 90%) are not the same as in GTO+.

Look at this 28 flop subset for rainbow boards for check (some are cut off in SS, but they are the same). GTO+ is 27.28%, excel returns 25.3%. At first I thought it was cause the data copied is one more decimal place. But I copied by hand out the GTO+ numbers from the table (not data with more decimals) and averaged it there, and it also comes out to excel averages?

It appears that GTO+ averages are wrong. It's been like this for all my analysis today, but never before today.

Surely the software isn't making a math error, so what am I doing wrong?

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09-27-2020 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by beginnerbot
It it possible to specify more than 5 sizes on a street?
No, the current maximum is set at 5.
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09-27-2020 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ristikas
When drilling a decision point and the hand proceeds to the next street it doesn't make much sense to hit replay the hand because it won't show you the EV of your move. It would be cool if we could drill specific point (like Flop CB) and after your decision you immeadiately get EV results of your decision and the next hand comes
Ok, I will consider more extensive options for future releases.
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09-27-2020 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Shikyo
Good evening
Is it possible to delete the history of played hands? Not just hiding them.
Thanks.
At the moment you can only disable them.
Adding an option to delete is not particularly difficult to write though.
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09-27-2020 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TQverymuch
Hi scylla,

Is it possible to have specific bet size inputs for in position player also(like there is 40p,65c etc for OOP player). For example, If we want to use different bet size IP when making a turn continuation bet vs making a turn delayed c bet?
Right now these options are only available for OOP.
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09-27-2020 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TRUSTtheDRAWCESS
Hi Scylla,

I'm doing analysis on flop subsets in excel, and the averages I'm getting for each option (check, shove, 33%, 90%) are not the same as in GTO+.

Look at this 28 flop subset for rainbow boards for check (some are cut off in SS, but they are the same). GTO+ is 27.28%, excel returns 25.3%. At first I thought it was cause the data copied is one more decimal place. But I copied by hand out the GTO+ numbers from the table (not data with more decimals) and averaged it there, and it also comes out to excel averages?

It appears that GTO+ averages are wrong. It's been like this for all my analysis today, but never before today.

Surely the software isn't making a math error, so what am I doing wrong?

The software also takes into account card removal and internal weights for trees.
So it's more accurate.
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09-27-2020 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
When we want to solve a database in stages, do we just pause the solver, save, then can continue solving the subset at a later date? Will it be saved as one whole database if solved in parts? Also, is there a way to merge databases?
Yes, you can stop a solve at any time.
After that, use "File->Save as ..." to create a savefile.
At any later point you can use "File->Load" to load the savefile again.

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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
Also, is there a way to merge databases?
For this, place all the files that you want to merge into a single directory.
Then, enter the code MERGE and select that directory.



Method 2
If the number of files that you're trying to merge is small, then it's also possible to:
1) Load the first file
2) Press the "Lock" icon
3) Load the next file
4) Go to 2
The lock icon will prevent a database from being cleared prior to loading the next one.


Last edited by scylla; 09-27-2020 at 01:45 AM.
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09-27-2020 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
At the moment you can only disable them.
Adding an option to delete is not particularly difficult to write though.
Ok thank you for taking my request into account.
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09-27-2020 , 01:32 PM
Hello,

Are there any plans to implement equity graphs like Flopzilla displays into GTO+? I have both licenses, but it would be convenient to have the graphs in GTO+ directly, like Piosolver has.
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09-27-2020 , 01:56 PM
Hi Scylla

Is the impact of the course important on the results? (The cape exploded on my room)

Thank
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