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Old 04-28-2020, 03:33 PM   #9701
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Ok, thank you.

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Old 04-28-2020, 03:41 PM   #9702
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don't know if this was asked before, but should the GTO+ and other solvers have same or very similar results and frequencies if solved to let's say 0,25%? If we input same ranges and sizings etc...
Do you mean that if you use multiple bet sizes, should different solvers arrive at the same betting frequencies? The answer here is no. The reason for this is that all bet sizes will have almost exactly the same performance. Within a dEV of 0.25% many different distributions are possible that all fall within the given Nash distance. You wll however find the same frequencies when using single bet sizes, provided that the trees are exactly identical.
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Old 04-28-2020, 03:43 PM   #9703
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Is it possible to display the relative percentages (an not the absolute) of diefferent actions inside of a handgroup.? For example if you have 5% sets and check 40% of them then I would like to see 40% instead of 2%. I don't need those absolute numbers. Maybe you could also implement a toggle for displaying both, but I don't think that these absolute percentages are very useful for most users. And displaying the distribution for different handgroups in a simpler way (just 3 bars side by side for example for a checking and 2 betting ranges, like simple postflop) would be more useful too, because you get a broad picture of the whole range-distribution much faster and if you want to see the details you have to take a closer look on specific handcombinations anyway. Thank you!
If you mouse over a hand strength like "set", then a summary will be displayed below the table. This summary will include the distribution in percentages. See the screenshot below.

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Old 04-28-2020, 06:38 PM   #9704
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Hi Scylla - or anyone else who can help.

I'm used to using multiplier (i.e. 3.5x) for raises, 3bets, 4bets, etc. not % of the pot.

Is there a way to change this setting to X multiplier of a bet as opposed to % pot raise?
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Old 04-28-2020, 06:40 PM   #9705
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Hello, 1. Does GTO+ has feature similar to the "Jobs" on Simple postflop? What i want to do is select a flop subset and put them on queue to a specific folder.
2. Do you have a predeterminated balanced flop subset?
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Old 04-28-2020, 06:45 PM   #9706
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Do you guys have a discord?, you should open one
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Old 04-28-2020, 07:22 PM   #9707
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Also, can I do pot size and eff stacks in BB? Will that mess anything up? for example starting pot 6(bb) and effective stacks 30 (bb) as opposed to chips.

Thank you
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:10 AM   #9708
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Hi Scylla - or anyone else who can help.

I'm used to using multiplier (i.e. 3.5x) for raises, 3bets, 4bets, etc. not % of the pot.

Is there a way to change this setting to X multiplier of a bet as opposed to % pot raise?
Yes, you can use x input.
See the screenshot below.

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Old 04-29-2020, 04:13 AM   #9709
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Also, can I do pot size and eff stacks in BB? Will that mess anything up? for example starting pot 6(bb) and effective stacks 30 (bb) as opposed to chips.
Thank you
Yes, you can use any unit that you like.
The only thing to keep in mind is, in case you're using rake, to also express the Cap in the same unit.
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:17 AM   #9710
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Hello, 1. Does GTO+ has feature similar to the "Jobs" on Simple postflop? What i want to do is select a flop subset and put them on queue to a specific folder.
2. Do you have a predeterminated balanced flop subset?
Yes, we offer the following subsets: 15,19,23,33,37,44,55,66,80,90,111,129,141,163.
To load a subset, enter the desired size and click on "Import flops from file".

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Old 04-29-2020, 04:19 AM   #9711
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Hello, 1. Does GTO+ has feature similar to the "Jobs" on Simple postflop? What i want to do is select a flop subset and put them on queue to a specific folder.
Yes, for this, place all the files that you want solved in a single folder.
After that, use the "Folder" icon to process all files in that folder.

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Old 04-29-2020, 05:10 AM   #9712
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Ok, thank you.
Scylla, what to think about the (seemingly characteristic) spikes in dEV progression seen in GTO+ ?
https://youtu.be/Gd1QrG3-K2w?t=642
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:05 PM   #9713
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Scylla, what to think about the (seemingly characteristic) spikes in dEV progression seen in GTO+ ?
Basically it just means that the solver attempted a wrong turn and went back.
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Old 04-29-2020, 05:54 PM   #9714
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If you mouse over a hand strength like "set", then a summary will be displayed below the table. This summary will include the distribution in percentages. See the screenshot below.

Thanks for your quick response!

I know that I can see the relative percentages if I hover over those statistics but it would be nice to see them all the time (and maybe be see the absolute values after hovering over them, so maybe inverting this kind of display would be nice). I think the relative values are more useful, at least for me, but I can imagine for many other people too.

Btw big thumbs up for the recent updates. The aggregates are awesome!

And I am also rooting for more filtering options (1 card backdoor draws, no straight draw, low pairs vs low pp's etc.) and the possibility of sending data to multiple flopzilla pro windows and to be able to send back edited ranges into GTO+. Thanks!

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Old 04-29-2020, 06:24 PM   #9715
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Re: CardRunnersEV

Another question: What is the card removal toggle actually doing? I wasn't able to figure it out.
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Old 04-29-2020, 09:36 PM   #9716
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I have screenshots of monkersolver pre flop ranges can I somehow copy them into GTO+ or do I need to do it manually?
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:52 PM   #9717
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Hi Scylla.

I have both Flopzilla Pro and GTO+ and I have been having an issue lately that comes up very often. When I play against solution in GTO+ and I sync it live to Flopzilla Pro the weight of hands in ranges seems to be off. I tried restarting programs etc. and it doesn't seem to be helping. I think couple times after restart it was ok, but restarting is no longer helping. I run GTO+ ver 1.2.4 and Flopzilla Pro v.201
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:53 PM   #9718
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Re: CardRunnersEV

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I have screenshots of monkersolver pre flop ranges can I somehow copy them into GTO+ or do I need to do it manually?
ofcourse you need to copy them manualy, GTO+ cant read from pictures.
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Old 04-29-2020, 11:05 PM   #9719
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I have screenshots of monkersolver pre flop ranges can I somehow copy them into GTO+ or do I need to do it manually?
One option is to pay rangeconverter.com to convert it to piosolver format. GTO+ can import that directly. I did it for a full 6max tree and it was like $30 or less.


I opened an old tree with the latest beta version and can't view the tree. It is all blank. Can it not read old trees?

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Old 04-30-2020, 04:20 AM   #9720
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Thanks for your quick response!

I know that I can see the relative percentages if I hover over those statistics but it would be nice to see them all the time (and maybe be see the absolute values after hovering over them, so maybe inverting this kind of display would be nice). I think the relative values are more useful, at least for me, but I can imagine for many other people too.

Btw big thumbs up for the recent updates. The aggregates are awesome!

And I am also rooting for more filtering options (1 card backdoor draws, no straight draw, low pairs vs low pp's etc.) and the possibility of sending data to multiple flopzilla pro windows and to be able to send back edited ranges into GTO+. Thanks!
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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Old 04-30-2020, 04:22 AM   #9721
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Another question: What is the card removal toggle actually doing? I wasn't able to figure it out.
With card removal OFF the frequencies are simply the number of combos in an action divided by the total number of combos. With card removal ON these frequencies also include card removal (i.e. if villain has a larger chance of holding an A, then hero has a smaller chance of holding hands with an A). In most cases the difference will be subtle.
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Old 04-30-2020, 04:24 AM   #9722
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Hi Scylla.
I have both Flopzilla Pro and GTO+ and I have been having an issue lately that comes up very often. When I play against solution in GTO+ and I sync it live to Flopzilla Pro the weight of hands in ranges seems to be off. I tried restarting programs etc. and it doesn't seem to be helping. I think couple times after restart it was ok, but restarting is no longer helping. I run GTO+ ver 1.2.4 and Flopzilla Pro v.201
Can you be a bit more specific as to which weights are off?
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Old 04-30-2020, 04:25 AM   #9723
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I opened an old tree with the latest beta version and can't view the tree. It is all blank. Can it not read old trees?
It should be able to.
Can you send a savefile of the old tree to support?
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Old 04-30-2020, 11:41 AM   #9724
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I'm running a subset of hands BTNvBB in a single raised pot where donking is allowed. Is there a way to see BTN's strategy when checked to across all boards in a similar way to if I hadn't allowed donking?
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:42 PM   #9725
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I'm running a subset of hands BTNvBB in a single raised pot where donking is allowed. Is there a way to see BTN's strategy when checked to across all boards in a similar way to if I hadn't allowed donking?
In v128 (and later) you can use the navigator to see aggregate data across different lines.
See the screenshot below.

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