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04-14-2020 , 09:08 AM
Another unrelated question, when I was running a sim earlier using multiple bet sizes, the "build tree" button grayed out when I added a 6th size. When I removed it, I could build the tree, but as I added it again, I couldn't. I've successfully been able to build and run sims with 6 sizes before
Is this some kind of resource limitation that I've reached and the software recognizes that I won't be able to run the sim, or is this something else? Invalid input perhaps?
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04-15-2020 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by r00vam
Bear with me if these questions are basic, just started using GTO+

1. Is it possible to group certain hand combos together? Ie when looking at the "Entire decision" tab, I'd like to be able to click on a few hole card combos in the hand matrix, and see how they split up into between the different actions (bet x, bet y, check, etc) as a group.

2. Is it possible to combine two or more actions to see how often a certain hand group takes that line. For example, the "Set" hand group might make up 5% of a certain bet sizing, and 3% of another sizing. I'd like to know how much of my total betting range is sets, thus I'd like to combine the two actions (the two bet sizes) and see what the cumulative ranges look like.
^ This would be similar to running a new sim with only one sizing I think, but I'd rather not have to do that

Btw, these requirements might be a bit vague, if so then please let me know and I can try to clarify a bit more (just thought of them right now and they might be a bit inaccurate)
This is not available, but I will consider it for future releases.
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04-15-2020 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by r00vam
Another unrelated question, when I was running a sim earlier using multiple bet sizes, the "build tree" button grayed out when I added a 6th size. When I removed it, I could build the tree, but as I added it again, I couldn't. I've successfully been able to build and run sims with 6 sizes before
Is this some kind of resource limitation that I've reached and the software recognizes that I won't be able to run the sim, or is this something else? Invalid input perhaps?
I believe that the input fields for the tree builder indeed have an internal limitation of 5.
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04-15-2020 , 10:43 AM
Hey Scylla

Is there a way to copy my betting trees from the instance on my pc, over to my server?
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04-15-2020 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jaym99
Hey Scylla
Is there a way to copy my betting trees from the instance on my pc, over to my server?
I think that for this it's probably best to contact whoever manages your server and ask them how to upload files.
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04-15-2020 , 03:26 PM
I manage the server. I know I can copy files over, but I was just hoping that I could copy over all the profiles I've created. I guess I could just setup a tree, then hit run solver for a second, save the file and copy it to the server for each betting tree, I was just looking for something easier
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04-15-2020 , 03:37 PM
hello is it possible to choose delayed cbet sizing on turn or river? lets say when i cbet flop IP i want to bet 75% and 150% on turn but when i check behind flop i would like to bet 33% 75% 150% so want to have smaller sizing option as well, OOP on turn its possible using 33p as probe but IP it doesnt work for me
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04-15-2020 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jaym99
I manage the server. I know I can copy files over, but I was just hoping that I could copy over all the profiles I've created. I guess I could just setup a tree, then hit run solver for a second, save the file and copy it to the server for each betting tree, I was just looking for something easier
All your custom files are stored in the directory /config.
For example, profiles are stored in /config/profiles.pfl.
So just copy that directory to the server to transfer your custom settings.
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04-15-2020 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by magorko
hello is it possible to choose delayed cbet sizing on turn or river? lets say when i cbet flop IP i want to bet 75% and 150% on turn but when i check behind flop i would like to bet 33% 75% 150% so want to have smaller sizing option as well, OOP on turn its possible using 33p as probe but IP it doesnt work for me
We don't have an option specifically for that.
So I suppose you would need to use the editor for this.
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04-15-2020 , 08:25 PM
I've been running a few spots in GTO+ today and was wondering about changing (node locking?) for different bet sizes after I run the solve.

For example, I put in all the info, run the solve, then realize I don't like the bet size it's using in one part of the tree. Is it best to just go to Edit Tree>>Add Action, and then re-run the solve?

I'm still learning GTO+ so sometimes I wonder if there's more efficient ways to do things, or if I'm messing things up later in the tree.
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04-16-2020 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ishflop
I've been running a few spots in GTO+ today and was wondering about changing (node locking?) for different bet sizes after I run the solve.

For example, I put in all the info, run the solve, then realize I don't like the bet size it's using in one part of the tree. Is it best to just go to Edit Tree>>Add Action, and then re-run the solve?

I'm still learning GTO+ so sometimes I wonder if there's more efficient ways to do things, or if I'm messing things up later in the tree.
If you want to make changes to your tree, then using the editor and re-solving is indeed the correct approach.
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04-16-2020 , 07:28 AM
Recently purchased GTO+. Is there a quick way to nodelock all hands in a range? Like without clicking through everything? Is it possible to simply paste in a range for some action while nodelocking?

Is there a manual for this program or something beyond the videos on the website?
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04-16-2020 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tombos21
Recently purchased GTO+. Is there a quick way to nodelock all hands in a range? Like without clicking through everything? Is it possible to simply paste in a range for some action while nodelocking?

Is there a manual for this program or something beyond the videos on the website?
I saw your post and figured I'd share these videos with you. They really, really helped me out when I first got GTO+ last month.

This guy has a series of about 5 or 6 videos going over everything in GTO+.

Here's the first vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B7La1siW9s

I watched them all and have become much more proficient because of it.

Here's part4 of the series where he talks a lot about node locking and the simplest ways to do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwkjds7t2W8&t=156s

Also, in Scylla's first video, about 8 minutes in he goes over it briefly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Ev...ature=emb_logo

Hope that helps.
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04-16-2020 , 08:32 PM
Thank you ishflop, that's very helpful.

Another question, I can't seem to get the "Aggregate" tab under database distributions. I ran a solve for 141 flops and the tab just seems non-existant.



For comparison, here's a different one i did that does show the "aggregate" tab



The only thing I can think of is that I didn't allow "extensive storage" in the former. Is there way to see the preflop EV's or will I have to re-sim the all 141 flop again?
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04-17-2020 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tombos21
Thank you ishflop, that's very helpful.

Another question, I can't seem to get the "Aggregate" tab under database distributions. I ran a solve for 141 flops and the tab just seems non-existant.



For comparison, here's a different one i did that does show the "aggregate" tab



The only thing I can think of is that I didn't allow "extensive storage" in the former. Is there way to see the preflop EV's or will I have to re-sim the all 141 flop again?
The "Aggregate" option will only show up if:
1) All the preflop ranges are the same for all trees
2) All the trees are identical (same bets, pot, etc)
3) The ranges are symmetrical (so, for example, all combos AcKc,AhKh,AdKd,AsKs are present; not just a few)

Without those conditions it's not possible to sum up the data across the trees.
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04-17-2020 , 06:03 AM
I've run solver in GTO+ and set target to 1%, when it was done, I've looked at solution, but wanted to solve it a bit more, so I've press "Run solver" button, but instead of continuing where it stopped (at 1%) it started from beginning again, is that normal and can I somehow just continue?
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04-17-2020 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall
I've run solver in GTO+ and set target to 1%, when it was done, I've looked at solution, but wanted to solve it a bit more, so I've press "Run solver" button, but instead of continuing where it stopped (at 1%) it started from beginning again, is that normal and can I somehow just continue?
We don't store all the internal computational data for the entire solution after a solve is done. The memory that was involved for that is released. So it's indeed not possible to resume a solve after it has been stopped.

Last edited by scylla; 04-17-2020 at 02:50 PM.
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04-17-2020 , 03:55 PM
Hi scylla, is there a feature similar to range explorer in PIO where I can compare in certain point the amount of combos of a certain hand strengh in both hero and villain range in the same time? I can see how many combos of each hand strengh IP and OOP have in their range but I couldn't found any way to compare beetween the ranges.
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04-17-2020 , 05:34 PM
hello would it be possible to send data to all flopzilla pro i have opened during GTO+ work? so lets say i open GTO+ and 2x flopzilla pro to see range for OOP and IP in same time and when i press CTRL+F i would like to update both flopzilla pro in same time, now it update only one and other one is empty
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04-17-2020 , 08:33 PM
also one more useful thing i would like to have in flopzilla pro: in flop breakdown when i choose some filters if i can copy these flops and paste it to GTO+ for database run, this way i can do more databases in GTO+ based on type of board and study them separated
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04-18-2020 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeuceOTR
Hi scylla, is there a feature similar to range explorer in PIO where I can compare in certain point the amount of combos of a certain hand strengh in both hero and villain range in the same time? I can see how many combos of each hand strengh IP and OOP have in their range but I couldn't found any way to compare beetween the ranges.
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Originally Posted by magorko
also one more useful thing i would like to have in flopzilla pro: in flop breakdown when i choose some filters if i can copy these flops and paste it to GTO+ for database run, this way i can do more databases in GTO+ based on type of board and study them separated
I can consider it for future releases.
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04-18-2020 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by magorko
hello would it be possible to send data to all flopzilla pro i have opened during GTO+ work? so lets say i open GTO+ and 2x flopzilla pro to see range for OOP and IP in same time and when i press CTRL+F i would like to update both flopzilla pro in same time, now it update only one and other one is empty
Right at this moment both ranges are exported to a single FlopzillaPro window.
With this approach it's possible to perform equity calculations between the ranges.
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04-18-2020 , 06:58 AM
scylla: i understand, its good to send both ranges to flopzilla pro i would like to send both ranges to both flopzilla pros i have open when i press ctrfl+F so i can put them under each other next to GTO+ and when iam interested in range composition of both players i can just hit CTRL+F and look, lets say i want to compare how IP have two pairs+ vs OOP then TP, then MP, then LP, then air atd i have to keep clicking between OOP and IP several times but if i have two flopzilla pro open i dont have to click anywhere just look and see already, it save lot of time and lot of pain in hand from clicking too much in piosolver i can do same, i can open range explorer 2x and put them next to each other, one i keep OOP and other one i keep IP, this way i can instantly check and compare composition of both IP and OOP range
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04-18-2020 , 09:00 AM
Hi Scyla, regarding EVs on the river, Does it include $ of pot before river or just $ EV on river only ? For example, if the river bluff of certain combo is +0.1$ EV & the pot before river is 10$. If we make this bluff, total all streets EV is 0.1$ or is it just a river EV ?
Thanks,
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04-18-2020 , 11:15 AM
Hi Scylla,

Thank you for your wonderful product and tremendous support. How would one go about start looking at flop action aggregate totals for Player 2 IP? On the database distribution graph for OOP it shows EQ/EV/Action%s for OOP whereas for it does not for the IP player.

Similarly, how does one go about working with the aggregate database information beyond the flop? Compiling database turn reports, looking at EQs/EVs if always taking B B B, etc as actions sent to all boards in the database. Is this report by report or is there a way to force this either in GTO+ or editing the db files? I did not find the answer to these questions if theyve been asked, I appreciate your answer!
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