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04-09-2020 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by idn07
Hey Scylla, in GTO+ we have "No flushdraw" statistic, but don't have "No straightdraw". Can you add it?
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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04-10-2020 , 03:40 PM
hello scylla i would like to have option to filter out no made hands with no draw together because iam interested how often i should bet and check with these hands as well, would it take long time to implement? really missing this feature in GTO+, in piosolver i can do this
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04-11-2020 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by magorko
hello scylla i would like to have option to filter out no made hands with no draw together because iam interested how often i should bet and check with these hands as well, would it take long time to implement? really missing this feature in GTO+, in piosolver i can do this
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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04-11-2020 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by idn07
Hey Scylla, in GTO+ we have "No flushdraw" statistic, but don't have "No straightdraw". Can you add it?
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Originally Posted by magorko
hello scylla i would like to have option to filter out no made hands with no draw together because iam interested how often i should bet and check with these hands as well, would it take long time to implement? really missing this feature in GTO+, in piosolver i can do this
+1

I agree that statistics filters need some expansion, like something you made for Flopzilla.

For example:
  • Differentiation between bottom pair and low pocket pair
  • No straight draw
  • 1 card backdoor flush draw

And please consider option to select multiple statistics with right clicks.
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04-11-2020 , 05:38 AM
+1
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04-11-2020 , 09:39 AM
Hi scylla, 2 sugestions that would be very nice to have in gto+

1: If were possible to change turn or river cards using only the arrows from keyboard, this would make very practice to have a look to see what the overall strategy looks like in different runnouts in a faster way


2: I consider the first sugestion more important, this second is more an aesthetic sugestion, but if we have the option to choose the table appearance to be heads up, 6 max, or 9 max, in play against solution and select where wich player is seated would be very cool

Last edited by Pedro Henrique; 04-11-2020 at 09:52 AM.
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04-11-2020 , 10:01 AM
What are the big differences between GTO+ and PIO Solver?
Are there any important features which GTO+ doesnt have yet or features which PIO Solver doesnt have?
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04-11-2020 , 06:34 PM
add also filter for combo draw please, right now iam missing no draw mainly and would be happy for combo draw and low pair separated as low pocket pair and low pair (often they play different strategy), please if possible add it to next release already, iam waiting for this feature for very long time, i own 3 licences of GTO+ and i have to make sims in other solvers too when i want to check other parts of range how they should play
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04-11-2020 , 10:15 PM
Hello,

How do I check the equity of a hand after it's bet/raised and been called. For example BB checks and BU bets, BB's middle pair has X% equity facing the cbet. Once it check raises and BU calls, but before we see the turn, how much equity does this hand have?
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04-12-2020 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro Henrique
Hi scylla, 2 sugestions that would be very nice to have in gto+

1: If were possible to change turn or river cards using only the arrows from keyboard, this would make very practice to have a look to see what the overall strategy looks like in different runnouts in a faster way


2: I consider the first sugestion more important, this second is more an aesthetic sugestion, but if we have the option to choose the table appearance to be heads up, 6 max, or 9 max, in play against solution and select where wich player is seated would be very cool
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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04-12-2020 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Speck CHAMP
What are the big differences between GTO+ and PIO Solver?
Are there any important features which GTO+ doesnt have yet or features which PIO Solver doesnt have?
Solving speeds
Our solving speeds are similar to pio, and our memory use is lower.

Play against the solution
We offer a "Play against the solution" feature, which is not available in pio (here is a short video: https://youtu.be/YuRsCQajRBA).

We converge to 0%
GTO+ converges to 0%, whereas pio will typically stop converging at about 0.05%.

Small savefiles and database functionality
We offer small savefiles, requiring only a few hundred kb per save (non-stored data can quickly be recalculated on the fly). Our small savefile approach allows us to let you create databases of hundreds of trees, which is something I believe pio can not offer.

Internal analysis tools
We offer internal analysis tools analysing the solutions, as well as graphs, tables, etc; to the best of my knowledge pio only offers the most basic of analysis methods, while otherwise needing its output to be manually copied to external software.

Visual editor as oposed to text based editor
We offer an editor with a graphical interface for editing trees, whereas pio only seems to offer some sort of text based editor.

Card removal ON/OFF
We offer a feature to toggle card removal ON/OFF throughout the solution.

Multiple bet sizes
We do indeed have multiple bet sizes (see video 3 on the tree builder here: www.gtoplus.com/videos).

Other differences
The only thing that we don't offer is a preflop solver. It's possible for us to create this, but the problem is that this feature requires a custom built computer, which almost none of our target audience will have. With some searching you may find some minor differences between pio and GTO+. We could easily add whichever features those may be; however, the decision not to clutter our interface with all sorts of buttons is more of an interface design choice, where we need to balance how many features are offered in the available space versus ease-of-use.

Why is the price lower?
GTO+ can essentially do everything that pio can, and is even in many ways superior. Some people assume that because we offer it for less, there must be a reason for this. However, for example, our other software Flopzilla is also sold way below market value, with lifetime upgrades for only a single payment of $25. The reason for the pricing is simply that we don't want to charge regular consumers huge amounts of money for gaming-related software.
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04-12-2020 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tuffspotz
Hello,

How do I check the equity of a hand after it's bet/raised and been called. For example BB checks and BU bets, BB's middle pair has X% equity facing the cbet. Once it check raises and BU calls, but before we see the turn, how much equity does this hand have?
Typically you can check the decision after villain's decision. If that next decision is on the turn, then currently that data is not available. However, in v129 this data will be available in the turn report.
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04-12-2020 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Typically you can check the decision after villain's decision. If that next decision is on the turn, then currently that data is not available. However, in v129 this data will be available in the turn report.
OK thanks! Just to clarify, in v129 we will be able to see the equity the hand has after it faces a bet/call but before the turn? Since presumably the turn data will show the equity of the hand with only one card to come. Perhaps it would just be a matter of averaging equity across all turns and doubling that number?
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04-13-2020 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tuffspotz
OK thanks! Just to clarify, in v129 we will be able to see the equity the hand has after it faces a bet/call but before the turn? Since presumably the turn data will show the equity of the hand with only one card to come. Perhaps it would just be a matter of averaging equity across all turns and doubling that number?
In v129 the weighted average of all EVs/equities across all possible turns is shown at the bottom of the table.
So that will be the value that you need to look at.
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04-13-2020 , 05:35 AM
Hi Scylla where you can find the option, as can be seen here, that man can give OOP the option for Check / bet2.15 / bet3.25 / bet5.2 and we can see the aggregate report for IP, I see it for the first time and do not find the option?
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https://share-your-photo.com/1455dee1b8
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04-13-2020 , 05:36 AM
if I start another GTO +, can't I find it?
https://share-your-photo.com/cf1f339d6e
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04-13-2020 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SkillBeatsLuck
if I start another GTO +, can't I find it?
https://share-your-photo.com/cf1f339d6e
This feature is only available for databases that were calculated with v128 (or later).
Is that the case here?
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04-13-2020 , 07:55 AM
scylla how's it going?
when I am setting up the OOP trees as an aggressor and when the action is b / r / c
on the turn I can't make it oop no donk (always donk even if I uncheck the box "dont donk". is there any way to do it when I create subsets?
If I edit the tree taking out those bets, it doesn't take it in all the flops.


Is there an option to not donkee OOP on the next street after an IP player raise?

If there are an option How do I configure it to build a subset file?

Last edited by Mates.; 04-13-2020 at 08:09 AM.
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04-13-2020 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
scylla how's it going?
when I am setting up the OOP trees as an aggressor and when the action is b / r / c
on the turn I can't make it oop no donk (always donk even if I uncheck the box "dont donk". is there any way to do it when I create subsets?
If I edit the tree taking out those bets, it doesn't take it in all the flops.


Is there an option to not donkee OOP on the next street after an IP player raise?

If there are an option How do I configure it to build a subset file?
Just editing one of the trees in the database will not affect all the trees in the database.
To edit all trees in a database:
1) Edit your tree
2) Clear the database
3) Build a new database from the base tree
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04-13-2020 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Just editing one of the trees in the database will not affect all the trees in the database.
To edit all trees in a database:
1) Edit your tree
2) Clear the database
3) Build a new database from the base tree
https://imgur.com/ogCRzI8




This is the problem, I can't get the bets out after IP raise.
would I have to edit all the subsets by hand to get those branches out?
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04-13-2020 , 09:51 AM
Is there a way to lock decisions with percentages? Say I want to modify the range to bet 75% of the time with each combo, and check 25% of the time. I understand how to use Lock + edit decision to make a particular hand or combo do one action, but I can't seem to figure out how to get it to split its actions.
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04-13-2020 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
https://imgur.com/ogCRzI8




This is the problem, I can't get the bets out after IP raise.
would I have to edit all the subsets by hand to get those branches out?
If I understand you correctly, then:
1) Edit a single tree
2) Clear the database
3) Rebuild the database from the edited tree
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04-13-2020 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by thoughtxriot
Is there a way to lock decisions with percentages? Say I want to modify the range to bet 75% of the time with each combo, and check 25% of the time. I understand how to use Lock + edit decision to make a particular hand or combo do one action, but I can't seem to figure out how to get it to split its actions.
For that, click on "Current selection" and set the desired distribution.

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04-13-2020 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If I understand you correctly, then:
1) Edit a single tree
2) Clear the database
3) Rebuild the database from the edited tree
Works!

Thanks
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04-14-2020 , 06:52 AM
Bear with me if these questions are basic, just started using GTO+

1. Is it possible to group certain hand combos together? Ie when looking at the "Entire decision" tab, I'd like to be able to click on a few hole card combos in the hand matrix, and see how they split up into between the different actions (bet x, bet y, check, etc) as a group.

2. Is it possible to combine two or more actions to see how often a certain hand group takes that line. For example, the "Set" hand group might make up 5% of a certain bet sizing, and 3% of another sizing. I'd like to know how much of my total betting range is sets, thus I'd like to combine the two actions (the two bet sizes) and see what the cumulative ranges look like.
^ This would be similar to running a new sim with only one sizing I think, but I'd rather not have to do that

Btw, these requirements might be a bit vague, if so then please let me know and I can try to clarify a bit more (just thought of them right now and they might be a bit inaccurate)
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