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The weights are currently not publicly available. Our subsets outperform those of the competition by about 20%, so for the moment we are not releasing them. We will probably release them at a later point though.

One last question: do the weights affect the solutions at all? For example a flop with a higher weight has higher EV than one with a lower weight.

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08-12-2019 , 06:05 AM

#8277

scylla

GTO+ Representative

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Originally Posted by SelfishGhost

One last question: do the weights affect the solutions at all? For example a flop with a higher weight has higher EV than one with a lower weight.

The solution will be the same, regardless of the weight.

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08-12-2019 , 01:43 PM

#8278

SelfishGhost

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 107

Is it possible to edit the default river bet size without re-solving the tree?

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08-12-2019 , 01:54 PM

#8279

personalpokercoach

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 245

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Originally Posted by scylla

Ah, I see. I think that I will make some changes so that if you clear a database, the active tree is not deleted (I thought that this was already the case, but apparently not). The update for v120 should be available shortly, so please check back in a few days.

It's kind of funny to think that this issue has just been brought up after 300+ pages

Yes, this will definitely be very helpful.

Just another suggestion, is it possible to have something like an uncheck/check option in the flops? So it would be easier to delete multiple flops at once like highlighting a couple of flops and pressing delete. Unlike now where if you want to delete certain flops, you have to manually right-click one-by-one

Is it also possible for you to add the board run out on the top part where the 5 cards are together? It's kind of confusing to see the flop on the left side then glance at the top for the turn and river cards.

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08-12-2019 , 02:22 PM

#8280

BigDickPlaya

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A saved history feature for both flopzilla and gto+ would be greatly appreciated. Power Equilab has this.

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08-12-2019 , 02:46 PM

#8281

scylla

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Originally Posted by BigDickPlaya

A saved history feature for both flopzilla and gto+ would be greatly appreciated.

Flopzilla and GTO+ both offer an undo system; are you referring to anything else?

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08-12-2019 , 02:49 PM

#8282

scylla

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Originally Posted by SelfishGhost

Is it possible to edit the default river bet size without re-solving the tree?

In v120 it will be possible to edit the turn with the flop remaining solved. Doing the same for the river proved to be far more complex; in order to not have to push the release back by an additional two weeks we have decided to leave out the river for the moment. There is however a workaround that will allow you to basically accomplish the same thing.

Last edited by scylla; 08-12-2019 at 02:55 PM.

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08-12-2019 , 02:53 PM

#8283

scylla

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

It's kind of funny to think that this issue has just been brought up after 300+ pages

Yes, this will definitely be very helpful.

This has been added for v120 now, so please just check back for that.

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

Just another suggestion, is it possible to have something like an uncheck/check option in the flops? So it would be easier to delete multiple flops at once like highlighting a couple of flops and pressing delete. Unlike now where if you want to delete certain flops, you have to manually right-click one-by-one

Ok, we can consider it for later releases.

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

Is it also possible for you to add the board run out on the top part where the 5 cards are together? It's kind of confusing to see the flop on the left side then glance at the top for the turn and river cards.

This is available in v120 as well.

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08-12-2019 , 04:35 PM

#8284

BigDickPlaya

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Originally Posted by scylla

Flopzilla and GTO+ both offer an undo system; are you referring to anything else?

Yes. In PE, I can just click tools->history and it brings up literally everything I've ever done and then cleared and also tells me when I ran that analysis. For example, I can see that 48 minutes ago I compared x range to y range and bring up everything I saw then instantly now. It's quite brilliant, actually and really lets you get more done faster.

GTO+ has a save feature and database, etc. What I'm talking about here is more relevant when it comes to Flopzilla.

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08-12-2019 , 10:18 PM

#8285

mycorrhizae

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 182

Anything I need to know before trying to get GTO+ going on a Win10 VM? I'm thinking about moving my install to an ESXi box.

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08-13-2019 , 05:10 AM

#8286

scylla

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Originally Posted by BigDickPlaya

Yes. In PE, I can just click tools->history and it brings up literally everything I've ever done and then cleared and also tells me when I ran that analysis. For example, I can see that 48 minutes ago I compared x range to y range and bring up everything I saw then instantly now. It's quite brilliant, actually and really lets you get more done faster. GTO+ has a save feature and database, etc. What I'm talking about here is more relevant when it comes to Flopzilla.

A challenge here would be that Flopzilla performs live calcs. So every time any change is made whatsoever, the equities are immediately+automatically re-calculated and updated, without any "calculate" button needing to be pressed. I'm very pleased with this system, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It would however not work that well with a feature that you're requesting here, given that we would probably need to store hundreds of histories per hour of use. So, I can consider your request for later releases, although I would need to think about how to actually apply it.

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08-13-2019 , 05:11 AM

#8287

scylla

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Originally Posted by mycorrhizae

Anything I need to know before trying to get GTO+ going on a Win10 VM? I'm thinking about moving my install to an ESXi box.

I would not expect any issues, but you can just use the trial version to see if you can get everything up and running properly.

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08-13-2019 , 10:33 AM

#8288

realtimer

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Does GTO+ support SPH ranges? I have started using Simple Poker Preflop solver and was wondering if there was a way to import the ranges into GTO+?

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08-13-2019 , 10:58 AM

#8289

scylla

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Originally Posted by realtimer

Does GTO+ support SPH ranges? I have started using Simple Poker Preflop solver and was wondering if there was a way to import the ranges into GTO+?

V120 will be able to import pio ranges.
So, if the format is the same, then yes.
Otherwise, please send a sample to support and we'll take a look at it.

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08-13-2019 , 05:23 PM

#8290

realtimer

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Originally Posted by scylla

V120 will be able to import pio ranges.
So, if the format is the same, then yes.
Otherwise, please send a sample to support and we'll take a look at it.

It also exports in PIO format, so that should work. Ty

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08-15-2019 , 04:50 PM

#8291

AuMind

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 354

This is similar to what thegibson mentioned but is there any way to import a bunch of flops but still keep the ones I already solved for? For example, I originally solved for 184 flops and now I want to import 1755, which I have a text file for. However, if I import the 1755 flops, the 184 flops will have to be resolved.

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08-16-2019 , 01:35 AM

#8292

personalpokercoach

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Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 245

Hey scylla,

I think it would also be nice to see a filter feature in the database.

For example, I want to only choose flops that have Ts in them. I choose Ts (just like in the flopzilla flop selector where you can pick any card) and it will only show the flops that are TsXxXx.

I have database of 200+ flops and it's quite hard to find the specific flop I want.

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08-16-2019 , 02:24 AM

#8293

personalpokercoach

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Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 245

Also not sure if this is too much to ask but it helps as well when nodelocking, I can just hold my left click button to select combos in the matrix. Not click one by one

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08-16-2019 , 03:24 AM

#8294

scylla

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

Also not sure if this is too much to ask but it helps as well when nodelocking, I can just hold my left click button to select combos in the matrix. Not click one by one

Ok, I will see what I can do for later releases.

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08-16-2019 , 03:31 AM

#8295

scylla

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Originally Posted by AuMind

Switching to 1755 flops would be the only situation where this would be applicable. When switching from subset to subset it will be very rare for there to be any significant overlap in flops. It would still be very tricky to accomplish, given that we would not only need to check if flops are the same, but also if the trees themselves match, and perhaps also if edits are present. There's quite a lot of opportunities for introducing bugs here. I can consider it for later releases though.

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08-16-2019 , 03:33 AM

#8296

scylla

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Originally Posted by personalpokercoach

If you click on the "Tree" header, then the flops will be sorted for you. It should be relatively easy to find a Txx flop. We can consider more advanced filtering features for later releases, but for the moment this is what we can offer you here.

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08-16-2019 , 09:14 AM

#8297

Glavir

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 32

Hello Scylla, i built a custom tree w some added manually branches. It was built for 3bet pot, now i want to use same tree but for 1rp pot. When im trying to set up other pot size + chips left in stack and use rebuild tab i got this:

Spoiler:

And it doesn't change, how can i change pot size and stacks depth wo loosing custom tree, is it possible?

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08-16-2019 , 03:50 PM

#8298

DooDooPoker

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,552

Hey Scylla, - can you tell me if my thought process is accurate here?

GTO will always take the highest EV line --so if a certain action such as a bet or check is a mixed frequency then by the definition they have the same EV?

So I am trying to figure out why certain frequencies are used on the flop like 90% of the time we should bet this combo but the other 10% we should check. Is it because we want to have that 90% combo OTT more often because it is higher EV?

Also is it possible to nodelock the mixed frequency combos OTF to check to see if the higher frequency combos have more EV OTT?