TY 4 answer.
I agree that every scale backdoor adds only a small amount of equity.
However I try to represent the problem from my point of view. When the solver optimally balances the strategy I find myself at every node with most of the hands that falls into widely defined categories (TP +, GS + and so on).
There are some hands that do not re-enter in these and that I can not easily capture the postflop selector if not pointing them precisely (in the Hole Card slot).
I noticed that being able to insert the backdoor straight draw pattern together with that flush I could make the results of the various tests humanly usable. The thing that is most useful to me in CREV is the possibility to humanize the ranges making recognizable patterns.
What do you think about it?

I like CREV

Sorry, to now get back to this, but it still doesn't work for me.
After I created a category, like "Tourney Live" and have 5 ranges in this category, when I now create a new subcategory, like "open", I can't put the existing 5 ranges (which are in Tourney live) into the subcategory. It always jsut moves the range below the subcategory, not in it.

I want to create some sims to force OOP to only have lead or check-fold after flop goes check-check.

How can I do this?

As I said previously, we will look into it for future releases, although I think GTO analysis may be preferable for this, given that it will take care of all the fine-tuning automatically.

The required drag+drop steps for this are:

1) Mouse over the range that you want to move
2) Left-click and keep your mouse pressed; you are now dragging the range
3) Mouse over the target category; the drop symbol will now appear on its right
4) Mouse over the drop symbol
5) Release your mouse

Should it still not work for you, then please send your newdefs3.txt file to support with a brief description and I will demonstrate it for you in a short vid. Please try for yourself first though with the steps above.

I think the easiest approach would be to use the editor to remove the undesired actions.
The editor is demonstrated in the third video here: www.gtoplus.com/videos

Is it possible in GTO+ to visualize the weights of the IP/OOP range in different colors with the weigth percentage next to the range matrix? Currently I need to go over a specific hand to see their exact weigth. This would also make it easier when you are exchanging ranges with somebody who do not have GTO+ to see directly not just the range matrix but also the exact weigths.

Quick question/ feature request:

I really like the database feature as it currently is but I also want to do aggregate analysis by grouping textures together (i.e. A high rainbow flops, 9 high monotone flops etc). I run GTO+ overnight usually but since these grouped flops are sometimes not as numerous I'd like to know if it is possible to get a script that let's GTO+ run databases consecutively.

EDIT: sifting through the thread I see that a similar request has been made.

I'm sure this has been asked before too but I would love to see more analysis filters. Plotting check-raise lines against flops or bet vs check against flops for the IP player etc.

Are you referring to the range selection matrix (preflop)? We do expect to offer something here, although it can get rather complex if there's a very large number of unique weights involved. We should be able to offer something here for the more straightforward ranges though.

What we offer here is the ability to process all files in a given folder. So just place all the target files in a folder, click the icon below and select the desired location on disc. You can now run the solver overnight and it will take care of everything automatically.




Check-raise spots are not really suitable for being plotted, given that they involve 2 data points for OOP (a check and then a raise) and 1 for IP (a bet). So this comes down to having to make comparisons between sets of 3 data points.

For example, let say that we have 4 flops where the frequencies for OOP check%, IP bet% and OOP checkraise% are:
Flop1: 5% 75% 80%
Flop2: 50% 15% 10%
Flop3: 25% 65% 30%
Flop4: 75% 15% 25%
Although this data is available in the engine, it can unfortunately not be visualized in a way that's easy to interpret.

The same applies to plotting decisions for IP when OOP has multiple initial actions. OOP's betting/checking range/frequency will be different for every flop, and it's because of this that it's not possible to make comparisons between IP's actions; all of them have been measured under a completely different set of circumstances.

Yes, I am speaking about preflop selection range. This would be a great additional feature, since it is very confusing to read weighted ranges in GTO+. It would allow users sharing or posting of weighted ranges which they used for their simulation as jpeg on forums or with other ppl who do not use GTO+.

Thanks.

Here are the links for every video. I'm planning on doing more content about the software when i'll have a bit of time.

I am sorry, but I don't quite understand what use this feature for.

From what I understood you asked to process multiple files? For this, simply create a separate file for each database and place them all in a single folder (for example C:/tmp). Then, click this icon, select the target folder and click on "PROCESS FILES". It will now process all files in the target folder.

Hey Scylla
Do you consider a version based GTO+ for Short Deck（6+）？

hey,

I tried solving a bb vs bu 3bet pot where OOP leads, but for some reason when I try to view all the results in a graph, it doesnt show OOP bet sizes in the statistics on the side. It only shows Equity and EV. Any idea why?

https://gyazo.com/df3e9a54fc548f35efe60d6d3adacea8

I have solved plenty of other situations where OOP lead, and have never seen this happen before.

Ok, I will take it into consideration for future releases.

Is there perhaps some difference between the trees? For example, is there a tree in the database with different ranges? Or different bets in the tree? If you want me to take a look, then please send the database to support and I'll see if I can figure out why this data is not displayed.

I set it up again and now it worked. Thanks

Syclla, in your introduction video about scripting and turn reports I see that you have in your graphs for the database a column for EV/Equity/Bet/Check.

In my graphs when I solve a database I just see EV/Equity.

How can I include the Bet/Check freq. also in the graph so that I can export them as a textfile into Excel?


Thanks.


EDIT: I see them for Player 1 but not for Player 2!

For Player 1 it is fine:



For Player 2 Bet/Check columns are missing:

Hey Scylla. Was just looking at a solution with 4 turn sizes and realised I can't differentiate the orange(?) of the smallest size from the green of check. This means that the other 1/13 of your customers who are red-green colour blind probably can't either. Aside from this, your choice of colours has been very favourable throughout the program, so if you could tweak this colour, that'd absolutely ace. Cheers.

@Kockar, This has been raised in this thread before, I believe. As IP's actions are dependent on OOP's first action, they aren't compared across different flops as you're not comparing like for like. That's been Scylla's take on it anyway.

I personally think it would be good to have this comparison anyway to look for themes in the IP strategy with the intention of looking at OOP's action for interesting flops afterwards.

This data isn't displayed for several reasons. First of all, player 1 will have multiple actions. So there's not a single overall set of frequencies for player 2; instead, there's a separate set for each action by player 1. At the very least the user would need to select which line he wanted to see. Secondly, and more importantly, each decision is reached by a different range and frequency by player 1 across the different flops. So on one flop player 1 may be betting 15% of his range, on the other 85%. Data points that have been measured under completely different circumstances are not suitable to be plotted in a table/graph. The data is available in the engine, and it's possible for us to plot it anyhow, but for the moment, we have decided to leave it out for this reason.

For this, click on the "Edit" symbol (upper right).
There, click on "Edit action colors" (should this button not appear, then click on "IMPORT TREE").
In this menu you can set any colors that you like.